Plaintiff wrote...
Of course not, don't be a moron.
There's no need to be vulgar. Take your childish words elsewhere - they have no place here.
Plaintiff wrote...
I'm stating that claiming a majority opinion is not an argument. The majority can be, and frequently is wrong. But I doubt that the "overwhelming majority" posts on this forum or even voices their opinions at all, so it was a stupid statement anyway.
If you hate DA2, then fine, but trying to claim that the majority supports you is silly, since it can't be proven, and even if it could be, it doesn't make you automatically right. And claiming that your opinion is the "only right one", which so many DA2 haters do, is just arrogant douchery (not that I expect any better from the elitist, self-entitled PC-gaming fraternity). You did it yourself, just now, by stating that DA2 is a "particularly poor game", as if it was a matter of fact. It's not.
Claiming a 'majority agrees' argument can be valid - it depends on what is being assessed. In the case of slavery, there is no answer, regardless of what the majority might think at any given time. It is a moral issue - much like abortion, the death penalty, and euthanasia. At some point in the distant past, the majority thought that slavery was fine - that isn't the case today - but there is nothing to say that the majority view will not revert to accepting slavery within a reasonable timeframe (say 500 - 1000 years). Likewise, the other moral issues I have listed above do not have a 'correct' answer - and never will. They are not assessments of a product, or differing interpretations of something.
Talking about rating a video game is an entirely different ballpark. You have a product - a single object - that millions of people can use in an identical fashion, and form an opinion about that product's quality. In the case of a frying pan, people might rate the quality of the object on how long it lasts before it needs replacing. In the case of a kitchen knife, people might rate its quality by how sharp it is, and how quickly it goes blunt. In the case of a television set, people might rate its quality by image clarity, and how often it breaks down/requires maintenance.
Video games are a little bit more tricky, as much like books, movies, and paintings, they are, to a degree, a form of art that can be interpreted in a variety of different ways by different people. There aren't as many objective points to rate the quality of a video game on, as there for for simple physical goods.
Unless you'd like to pursue a philosophical arguement, and claim that there is no such thing as a good or bad work of art, or anything in between (meaing a line drawn on a piece of paper is the same level of quality as say, the Mona Lisa), the quality of a video game can certainly be assessed by an individual, using their own criteria.
I'm not going to bother delving into what criteria an individual might use to assess a game - as it differs vastly by person (and so it should) - what matters is their final opinion - aggregate the final opinions of everybody who has played the game, and you get an idea of what level of quality the item is. But it's not that easy to collect such opinions. To get the best idea possible of what everybody thinks, the logical place to look would be places where users of the product can express their opinions. These might include, but are certainly not limited to:
* Forums
* Review sites (e.g. Metacritic)
And of course, sales. If you can think of any others, feel free to add them. It doesn't really matter which of those you look at, DA2 has performed relatively poorly in aggregate. That would be a pretty good indication of the quality of the game. Similarly, if I were to draw a line on a piece of paper, then upload it onto DeviantArt and ask people to rate it, then attempt to sell it for a reasonable price online - the responses I got would be a reasonable indicator of the quality of my drawing - if there was a large enough sample size.
I think that you are confusing personal opinion with quality. I have never claimed that 'my opinion is the only one' - everybody is entitled to their own opinions. But, as rated by every possible source of public information that we have access to, Dragon Age 2 is a relatively low quality product.
If you can think of a more fair way to assess the quality of a product than collecting together every available user review, rating, and sales of the item, please, by all means, let me know, and we can attempt to rate Dragon Age 2's quality on that (assuming it is reasonable).
Modifié par Boiny Bunny, 11 janvier 2012 - 07:03 .
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