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FJVP

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 So I finally got a copy of ME and I'm finally ready to start my cannon Shep, however as I was advancing through the game I found myself struggling in battles due to my zero knoweledge about the combat mechanics, something that so far has held me back from continuing the game. So now I've come to ask any kind soul for help in learning the basics of combat.

To be more specific -- I want to play a vanguard, with the main team being Garrus/Ashley or Garrus/Wrex. Would this work? And how should I assign my talents in order to be the on-your-face beast that the vanguard can be?

Also, I often found myself being unable to pick paragon-specific dialogue options, something that greatly annoyed me. Any tips on how to raise my paragon score so that this does not happen that often?

Any help is really appreciated and thanks in advance. In the meantime I'll be playing some more Skyrim :)

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Regarding paragon options- are you investing skill points in Charm? Unlike ME2 where options are automatically available based on the paragon/renegade score, ME1 forces you to spend skills points on Charm/Intimidate in order to access those speech options.

Basically any team is viable in 1- Garrus/Ashley and Garrus/Wrex definitely are (though lacking in biotics, which are very powerful in 1...I generally tend to use at least one of Liara or Kaidan if I'm not playing adept or sentinel myself).

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Yep I was investing on charm, which is why it seemed so strange that most of those dialogue options were still greyed-out. As an example, on Noveria and with six points in charm I was only able to convince Qui'in to testify but I could not select the dialogue to convince the mercs in the SI offices to let me pass.

As for the team I was actually going off from what I had read on the wiki guides, which is why I thought Liara would not fit so well with a vanguard...

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In ME1, Liara fits just about any team, because Biotics are incredibly powerful.

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mcsupersport wrote...

In ME1, Liara fits just about any team, because Biotics are incredibly powerful.

I couldn't agree more.  She was on my squad a lot.  Well, except on the 2 playthroughs I was trying to get other ally achievements.

I don't know what difficulty you are playing on, but insanity is somewhat tough.  It certainly seemed worse early game to me than ME2.  At any rate the debuffs or whatever you want to call them were very useful... like polonium ammo (or chemical rounds earlier) to limit regen and biotics for organics.  For the synthetics I basically used Tungsten.  Sabotage and Damping (as well as overload) can also be helpful.

I always found the side quests more annoying than the story planets because of the preponderance of biotic enemies.  One random tip (although maybe an exploit, you decide) that I did was if I entered a building on a side quest and was not doing hot, I would just retreat out the building.  Saved on some medigel...  The two story prefab was common on the sidequests, and was usually the one I had trouble with.  What was nice was that it had a little room at the beginning... you could also open and shut that interior door as they would fire at you.

Modifié par capn233, 06 janvier 2012 - 04:29 .


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I'm currently playing Mass Effect on Insanity and I will say that if you want to munchkin and have the easiest time possible: Kaidan and Liara.

Neural Shock, Double Lift, Singulariy among other things will incapacitate just about any enemy in the game.

Another thing worth noting is that there's no real NEED to CC any enemy in the game? Do you want to use Ashley? Give her Immunity and her passive and let her run wild. She can handle herself just fine. Wrex even more so.

Tali and Garrus are amazing on geth missions which is the majority of missions. (unlike the second game) Tali's level 12 AI hacking is especially amazing.

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capn233 wrote...


I always found the side quests more annoying than the story planets because of the preponderance of biotic enemies.  On random tip (although maybe an exploit, you decide) that I did was if I entered a building on a side quest and was not doing hot, I would just retreat out the building.  Saved on some medigel...  The two store prefab was common on the sidequests, and was usually the one I had trouble with.  What was nice was that it had a little room at the beginning... you could also open and shut that interior door as they would fire at you.


-spoiler-

Wrex's Family Armor is probably one of the hardest in the game. The boxes and the AI of the enemies makes that place incredibly lethal on Insanity. 

All of my hate, Tonn Actus. All of my hate. :pinched:

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My worst experience was being a really low level and running into those two Turians outside of Chora's Den. Talk about the fight of your life on Insanity.

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Thanks for the tips guys, I'll muck around with the talents and see with what the heck I end up with :) Oh and I'm playing on normal, at least untl I get the hang of it.

Modifié par FJVP, 06 janvier 2012 - 02:51 .


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You'll want someone that has decryption and electronics on your team pretty much all the time. Those are used to open locked objects like crates and computer terminals. Since you're talking about playing a vanguard, that means Kaidan, Tali or Garrus. To unlock everything. You need 9 points in both, that level will also get master overload and sabotage, both of which are quite useful in their own right.

Oh and hang on to your level VII ammo upgrades, especially tungsten and shredder.  They stop dropping at higher levels.

Also check out the sticky for the guides at the top of the forum.  It's got some ME1 info in it.

http://social.biowar...1/index/2749272.  The one about single playthrough builds would probably be helpful.

Modifié par The Grey Ranger, 06 janvier 2012 - 03:37 .


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strive wrote...

My worst experience was being a really low level and running into those two Turians outside of Chora's Den. Talk about the fight of your life on Insanity.

Actually, yes new game insanity, especially with soldier, really sucks there.  Your guns do absolutely nothing to them, and they hit immunity every 2 seconds.

I also always did Therum first... the Krogan fight is also a pain at low level.  I had to make sure unity was unlocked, and to save grenades for the damn krogan.

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capn233 wrote...

strive wrote...

My worst experience was being a really low level and running into those two Turians outside of Chora's Den. Talk about the fight of your life on Insanity.

Actually, yes new game insanity, especially with soldier, really sucks there.  Your guns do absolutely nothing to them, and they hit immunity every 2 seconds.

I also always did Therum first... the Krogan fight is also a pain at low level.  I had to make sure unity was unlocked, and to save grenades for the damn krogan.


I always bring Kaidan for that Krogan, even if don't need to. It's nice to have an "I win" button at the outset of the fight. I make sure to either Lift or Neural Shock him and just be careful with the Geth Snipers as I focus on the Krogan.




And here are some suggestions for spec'ing the ME1 squad. social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/261/index/5877831

Edit: well, here's some squad suggestions if capped at 50 or only going through the game once or twice.
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/261/index/6371082/2#6456450

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Praetor Shepard wrote...

I always bring Kaidan for that Krogan, even if don't need to. It's nice to have an "I win" button at the outset of the fight. I make sure to either Lift or Neural Shock him and just be careful with the Geth Snipers as I focus on the Krogan.

Actually that's a good idea...

I don't recall how the krogan fight went when I was getting my Kaidan ally achievement though... I still don't remember it being easy.  Maybe I allocated points wrong. I do like Tali to open up hacking a rocket geth.  Make sure to hit spacebar right as the cutscene ends, heh.

The turians were also owned with lift... but that might have been my adept playthrough, I don't remember.  At any rate it was after doing several different playthroughs with Soldiers of various sorts and taking Garrus and Ash with me (...I guess I should have picked characters for their skills, not because I just like them).  So I run in hit lift and then they fall off ledge and it is over in 2 seconds.  I was sort of unhappy that it was so easy that time when it was a total PITA so many times before.

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If you have an Engineer character and a few levels to open up the powers, then Therum is pretty easy. Because you have hacking, to take the sniper Geth or Rocket Geth, then Dampening takes out the Krogan when he charges, plus you can disable all the guns for a bit of time so the Geth just stand around looking at each other......

Was the easiest fight of all classes with a mid level Engineer.

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The easiest I ever had that fight was an adept with Tali in tow. Hacked one of the geth. All the enemies attacked that one and were caught in a singularity. After that it was all mop up.

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Thanks for the help guys, I really appreciate it and I'll be sure to read those guides if I ever get confused :)

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Krogan battlemaster on Therum? Max out lift on Kaidan. Throw doesn't work on him.

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Master throw more than likely will. It will knock down even the four legger geth. It does vary somewhat with difficulty.