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Optimism Vs Pessimist, why won't you give Mass Effect 3 a chance?


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Haven't been around in a long while. Just happen to play through ME2 again then read through the script for ME3. I won't go into spoilers or anything but I will say if it is indicative of the majority of the plot then the fears I had after ME2 seem to be coming true. Specifically that all your decisions from ME1 to 2 are handled extremely superficially. Even the ones that seemed to be the biggest in both games have very minimal outcome and some are just glossed over like they didn't happen. It also makes ME2 basically filler. Lastly, the resolution is a bit of WTF? Where did that come from? Given all the lore they had to build on they barely use any of it.

The design choices BW has made don't go far to allay many fears either. The whole action mode thing is a head scratcher to me. What's the point? What game are you making here? And RPG or an TPS? Maybe they can successfully appeal to both audiences without compromising either but it scares me. From a design standpoint it would seem that they would have to focus on the action more just to make the action mode viable. I just hope that doesn't come at the cost of deep dialog trees and character development.

Either way I'm going to play it but I do have my worries.

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Optimist Vs Pessimist Vs Realist

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Realists are deluded people who think they have a better connection with reality than anyone else.

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Arkitekt wrote...

Realists are deluded people who think they have a better connection with reality than anyone else.



Um... sure, whatever you say.  Image IPB

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Original Poster, I agree with you 100% but the reaction has not surprised me in the slightest. For me (and its just my own opinion) its just a matter of wading through allot of the over reactions and nonsense posted on this site. Remember just because some are shouting the loudest does not mean they represent the majority of gamers, Bioware fans or ME fans

You can't open a post without a reading comment like "I can't believe [insert event or issue here] has happened, I've just cancelled my pre-order. Everyone's cancelling their pre-order it would seem yet when you look at the current figures for pre-orders you can see ME3 sitting at pretty in number two spot with over 400K in the states alone 2 months off release date.

I know allot of people are disappointed at the presumed lack of involvement of the ME2 characters. While I can appreciate where people are coming from I can also remember the avalanche of posts after the release of ME2 claiming these same characters were bland, lifeless and an insult to the outstanding characters we had in ME1. Some people will prefer the ME1 characters and some will prefer the ME2 characters, that's fair enough but the simple fact is that Bioware cannot please everyone. Regardless of who was selected, there would be complaints. For every person who can't stand the idea of Liara being a permanent squad mate there's another who would be devastated if she were not.

Elsewhere I can see people are disappointed that the CE features an additional character which the normal games does not have. What's the problem?, if you want the character go order the CE and pay for it. If you don't then don't.

I'm not for one second suggesting that some of the feedback and complaints on here are not genuine, some are, they're constructive , well thought out and of huge importance. Its just a shame you have to wade through so much negative nonsense to get to them. My current favorite comment is that that ME3 is doomed to failure based on what is currently known. We're talking about an unreleased game from a highly successful franchise here. The complete and utter arrogance to suggest this imminent failure is fact by some posters, having not even played the demo is nothing short of ludicrous. As if that isn't enough, some will even go onto suggest that anyone who doesn't share this notion is naive, short sighted and not living in the real world.

At the end of the day its all just speculation. Until ME3 is released nobody really knows how good or bad the game will be. I for one have complete in faith that Bioware are going to deliver a fitting conclusion to the trilogy. Don't let the negativity get to you OP, treat the nonsense as just that, nonsense. March Effect is fast approaching and I for one cannot wait

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Everything I've seen has told me Mass Effect 3 is going to be a subpar experience. Why on God's green earth would I expect something different?

There's a difference between being hopeful and being delusional.

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I am willing to give ME3 a chance.

I am NOT willing to give Origin a chance, and therein lies the rub.

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PC will always be the superior version. Even with dreadful Origin.

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The Prince Zeel wrote...

Everything I've seen has told me Mass Effect 3 is going to be a subpar experience. Why on God's green earth would I expect something different?

There's a difference between being hopeful and being delusional.



looool, it appears my "lowlife" label of you is holding up accurately. Despite all the bans you still keep crawling back to this site. xD

What name have you planned for your next one, Jessica Zeel?

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The Prince Zeel wrote...

Everything I've seen has told me Mass Effect 3 is going to be a subpar experience. Why on God's green earth would I expect something different?

There's a difference between being hopeful and being delusional.


so presumably you are not going to buy or play ME3 then?

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The Prince Zeel wrote...

Everything I've seen has told me Mass Effect 3 is going to be a subpar experience. Why on God's green earth would I expect something different?

There's a difference between being hopeful and being delusional.


Everything I've seen has told me the exact opposite. But hey, different strokes, right?

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Nothing left to hope for now.

(Regarding ME3 or any other EA game, that is.  Origin puts EA on the blacklist.)

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 14 janvier 2012 - 05:18 .


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You also gotta keep in mind that now more than ever, a lot of gamers have become self entitled brats and whiners who expect the world with their games.

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Biotic Grenade

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

You also gotta keep in mind that now more than ever, a lot of gamers have become self entitled brats and whiners who expect the world with their games.

Well, it's not like giving oral favors to the developers and publishers should be the gamers' main life goal...

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Last Vizard wrote...

Biotic Grenade


this.

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Sweawm wrote...
Stuff


James Vega is a waste of space when the roster size is so small.  He appears to be nothing more than a male Ashley clone.  In general, the currently kown roster is pretty laughable with waste of space characters, with only so far one of the known six of eight having anything interesting about them.

Replacing actual powers with "grenades" was an extremely lazy way out and so far the game is shaping up to be ME2.5; which isn't necessarily a bad thing, it just seems like they didn't spend enough time working on making new character abilities.

Biotic Sage wrote...

Exactly: Bioware has shown
There is evidence and precedent that they know what they're doing.  I wouldn't even call expecting ME3 to be good optimism, I'd just call it logic (assuming you liked the first two games).

So kind of like when I press a button, something awesome happens? :whistle:

Anyway, I already ordered the CE last week, and I have no reason to cancel it.  If anything, I'm a completionist to a fault.

Modifié par Graunt, 14 janvier 2012 - 02:06 .


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I'm optimistic, if I wasn't I wouldn't have the game pre-ordered. There's really no reason to believe that every single aspect will be awesomely great though, and if I see something in the trailers or demo (once it is released) that I don't think seems like a good idea I will comment on it. Being a fan of a gaming company doesn't mean that you'll have to like every little thing they choose to do.
To sit here and say that the game will be great, is pretty idiotic, because none of us know that yet. Same goes for saying it will be a piece of cr*p.

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My optimism has been bumped down a few notches:

- Retailer exclusive pre-order DLC
- Bonus DLC with action figures
- No ME3 on Steam
- A tacked on multiplayer mode
- Awesome button

All these things make it hard to enjoy these last few weeks up to the release of the game. I have pre-ordered the DDE on Origin and the CE for 360, and I'm not going to change that, but I'm seriously done with BioWare after this.

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I built a HTPC to replace my cable box, xbox 360 and have DVR capability. ME does not support controllers so no purchase for me. I'll just rent the 360 version and save $50.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

How about the Overlord decision? Aint' that a spiffy one too?

lol we could say that.

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Graunt wrote...

Anyway, I already ordered the CE last week, and I have no reason to cancel it.  If anything, I'm a completionist to a fault.


So the new "Pre-order cancelled" is now "I won't cancel my preorder, but"?

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From what I observed Mass Effect 3 looks to be the following:

-- Dumbed down, with stripped out RPG elements in favour of Gears of War style combat.

-- Multiplayer gimmick because EA thinks multiplayer always means more sales.

-- Now we just got news about Origin.

-- Much better games have already been released, by the looks of it.

-- BioWare has lost street cred since DA 2.
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That said, I'm willing to give it a chance, maybe.

Modifié par Gunderic, 14 janvier 2012 - 09:14 .


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The first two games have been building the arrival of the reapers. In ME 3 the reapers finally show up. How can anyone not be excited about that?