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Optimism Vs Pessimist, why won't you give Mass Effect 3 a chance?


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wright1978 wrote...

Alex_SM wrote...

The point is that, for lots of people here, "being good" means a major letdown. People complains because they see ruined what could have been a "Game of the decade". Most people doesn't think it would be a "bad game", but think BW is screwing what could have been extremely big. 



Pretty much sums up where i'm at and why i'm extremely disappointed.


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Il Divo wrote...

I've been sold on ME3 since I finished ME2 and Lair of the Shadowbroker. Let's see if Bioware can shatter my expectations.


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Bioware: Challenge accepted.

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Biotic Sage wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

I've been sold on ME3 since I finished ME2 and Lair of the Shadowbroker. Let's see if Bioware can shatter my expectations.


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Bioware: Challenge accepted.

 

Very Well then Bioware  ... March 6th... better bring your A game  cause guess what.... CAN'T WAIT !!


I don't know that looks like he just has a  serious wedgey can't get to it because of the armor.

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nitefyre410 wrote...

Very Well then Bioware  ... March 6th... better bring your A game  cause guess what.... CAN'T WAIT !!


I don't know that looks like he just has a  serious wedgey can't get to it because of the armor.


I visited my dad recently and he saw me playing ME2.  He has dubbed it the "Gotta Take a Sh*t" game because of all the grunting that goes on when you are getting shot at.  Ever since he's said that I can't help but be acutely aware of the large amounts of constipated sounding grunts in the game...damn him.

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The marketing has been terrible so far, so I can't blame people who have doubts about ME3.
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I mean, just look the pre-orders promotional trailers: I don't know why but the gameplay feels clunky as hell (possibly bacause of the slowmotion). Footage from E3 looked better than that.

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Honestly, I have fully accepted that ME3 cannot live up to the hype.

Doesn't mean it can't be a good game that I love to death. Honestly, pretty much every single game out there is going to be disappointing because they will never live up to what they lay out. Hell, given that everyone loves to point at it lately, yeah, sure, DA2 was a disappointment after DA:O. But you know what? DA:O was a massive disappointment after Baldur's Gate 2! Does that mean I didn't like/enjoy/whatever DA and DA2?

'course not.

So yeah. *shrugs* I figure ME3 will keep up the Bioware standard for me and be, at least, an enjoyable ride. And I'll let myself be pleasantly surprised if it does more.

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Personally I think being pessimistic when waiting for a game is better than being optimistic, because were I hoping ME2 to be as good as ME1 it would have been a great letdown, but on the contrary I played it only because it was the sequel to finally being surprised by how good the game was, sure not at the level of the first Mass Effect but a very good game anyway.

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DarthCaine wrote...

You say pessimists, I say realists.
Simple really, optimists choose what they wanna believe, the others see what's really there


It's better being a somewhat amused pessimist than to be a sorely disappointed optimist.

But anyway...

The only things from ME3 that I don't like are some story spoilers that I read, but apart from that, it's seems to be shaping up OK.

Then again, I never really set any standards. I've learned to always expect the least when it comes to new installments of your favorite franchises.

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LOL. What's there to be exited about? Half the fans get shafted. All the fans' prior choices are superficially relevant. And we know that the only thing from the leaked script that's remotely intriguing are the ending choices.

At this point I'm more exited about multiplayer than the singleplayer campaign.

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Slidell505 wrote...

Bioware has been promissing big branching plots in their games for awhile now. And I think it's safe to say, we've all played very similar games. Passed experience, and the leaked script would dictate that it's not happening in ME3. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. That being said, I think ME3 will be a good game, I just don't think it will have a solid plot, and I don't think it will deliver on the promises bioware's been making all these years.


This.

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It's hard to look forward to a game when so much of what you already know about it is negative.

Never mind that Origin is going to keep me from buying or playing it.

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Harlequin2 wrote...

Personally, I'm looking forward to everything Mass Effect 3 has to offer, the melee combat, the multiplayer, the abilities and any other changes. For me, they are the developers that pulled out Mass Effect and Dragon Age (I loved all of them) and I have faith that what they're doing is for the right reasons.
However, I won't be picking up that C&C that they're making. I'm not that much of a fanboy!



Playing ME1 and ME2, I thought better melee combat would be a nice touch. 

Instead, in ME3, we get pathetic "omniblades".  Since when are holograms solid?

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Killjoy Cutter wrote... 
Since when are holograms solid?

Since ME1.

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The only thing making me worry about the game are the Seboists and the Kaisers telling me I should be worried. the little bits ive heard about the game sounds quite nice.

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Biotic Sage wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Very Well then Bioware  ... March 6th... better bring your A game  cause guess what.... CAN'T WAIT !!


I don't know that looks like he just has a  serious wedgey can't get to it because of the armor.


I visited my dad recently and he saw me playing ME2.  He has dubbed it the "Gotta Take a Sh*t" game because of all the grunting that goes on when you are getting shot at.  Ever since he's said that I can't help but be acutely aware of the large amounts of constipated sounding grunts in the game...damn him.



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I'm not sure Mass Effect was ever an RPG.

ME3 while may be improved in areas, what I've been hearing about data transfer, it's going to suck if we cannot reallocate our points in the skills. ME3's skills are completely revamped and I don't want to be thrown into a build I don't want.

Something I don't understand: what's wrong with the script? How do people even know about it anyway? And don't say the leak(s), what is so important that could have possibly been leaked?

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im optimistic about the game coming out. ME2 is definitely one my favorite games. i played it after i played skyrim (which is pretty recent) and i like it better mosdef. so far from all the "leaked" and released vids ive seen, im impressed about the new features regarding combat and the overall gameplay mechanics, etc.

what im worried about is how the game is gonna resolve its "issues". mass effect is the only game ive played where it puts a metric sh*t ton of issues into lap and most of them do not pertain to the main story. i just hope theyre gonna be able to put some closure into these issues properly. because the past few months ive played a couple "part 3's" that disappointed me. and yes im talking about MW3 and GoW3. i know right, how dare i compare ME to those two, but still, there seems to be a pattern and im hopeful that ME3 breaks that. cuz remember this is the last shepard game were getting, it better deliver!

all in all i trust bioware.

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Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote... 

Since when are holograms solid?


Since ME1.


You're sure about that? 

Reference? 

Last I checked the codex, holograms in the ME setting were not solid.

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I am pretty optimistic, pre ordered the game and everything. Even optimatstic about the multiplayer aspect, mentaining a "don't knock untill you 'ave tried it" mentality which shocked that so few people felt the same. Sure Bioware had made a few blunders here and there most which could be contributed to EA but i have always enjoyed their games even DA2 and with the sucess of SWTOR makes me even more optimistic. How the will handle a command and conquer game....is a different story.. god i miss westwood....But i digress, i have seen nothing of ME3 that tells me it will be a flop and the whole origins issue, i have nothing to hide from EA and if anything bad happens they will be the ones with all the lawsuits.;-)

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Mmm, one smart forumite once said "We criticize the games because we love them".**

** Whoever said this, feel free to claim your authorship rights

I would say that this quote represents the attitude of a lot of posters here quite well. Of course, there are probably many of those who are completely unhappy with the direction of the series and some people, who post negative posts just to provoke reactions from hardcore fans, but I am convinced that most of the critics like something about Mass Effects, don't like something else, but this does not prevent them from wanting to play Mass Effect 3, if not for anything else, then at least to finish the trilogy and are worried about something else. Worried because they still care enough about the series. And that's a good thing.

So, I would not be too depressed about prevalence of pesimistic posts. A lot of them still come from people who hope that Mass Effect 3 will deliver and plan on buying it.

Oh, and I would like to point out one thing in your post which is partially related to your topic. A lot of discussions, especially those with some criticism of something, tend to turn into heated arguments because of some innaccuracies in the beginning. These are often caused by overgeneralizations and unwillingness of posters to go into details and address particular single problem, issue or poster. You, for example, did such thing too by saying  

Sweawm wrote...

When it comes to Mass Effect 3, everyone seems to be a pessimist.

Everyone spends there time complaining about characters and everything else about Mass Effect.

Hell, even if he came with the most emotionally lifting story in the history of gaming, everyone on BSN will still be calling hate.

Next big thing that sucks about the community here is that everyone is too focused on their own opinions. I have opinions, you have opinions.


Not only I am fairly confident, that "everyone" can not be used in any of those statements, but you could get yourself into an argument fairly quickly if you said "everyone" loves or hates some character / feature / etc. So, be careful. Your intentions are good, but the roads to hell tend to be paved exactly with those.:P

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Optimists looking forward to a game often get too excited with the hype. Very rarely, does a game ever actually live up to hype.

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steph285 wrote...

 and the whole origins issue, i have nothing to hide from EA and if anything bad happens they will be the ones with all the lawsuits.;-)


So if you bought an LG microwave, you'd have no trouble giving LG a key to your place of residence?

You don't have anything to hide from LG, right?  Image IPB

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

steph285 wrote...

 and the whole origins issue, i have nothing to hide from EA and if anything bad happens they will be the ones with all the lawsuits.;-)


So if you bought an LG microwave, you'd have no trouble giving LG a key to your place of residence?

You don't have anything to hide from LG, right?  Image IPB


Maybe you have me there, but the contents of a house is different from the content of a computer and i have know for all long time to be careful what i put in either of them.

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i generally play to have fun and enjoy myself...the little nitpicky items that people generally complain about here i typically ignore...

unless the game is totally broken, or we get a KOTOR2 ending where everything is up in the air, i'll most likely be satisfied

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Harlequin2 wrote...

Personally, I'm looking forward to everything Mass Effect 3 has to offer, the melee combat, the multiplayer, the abilities and any other changes. For me, they are the developers that pulled out Mass Effect and Dragon Age (I loved all of them) and I have faith that what they're doing is for the right reasons.
However, I won't be picking up that C&C that they're making. I'm not that much of a fanboy!



Playing ME1 and ME2, I thought better melee combat would be a nice touch. 

Instead, in ME3, we get pathetic "omniblades".  Since when are holograms solid?



The omniblades are not holograms. They've gone over this.