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[f1r3storm]

I don't need to give Mass Effect 3 a chance.

I know it will be awesome.

[KotorEffect3]

crimzontearz wrote...

OmegaBlue0231 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
a pessimist is what an optimist calls a realist

Not really, because they'd have to still take in the optimits point as well, by denying it they're not being realist because you'd have to judge the good and the bad as equals and not expect anything until you've seen it first.

1 was quoting Ash from ME1

2: it still applies from the preamble that we can only form realistic, optimistic or pessimistic expectations from what we know



also....I was told I should have given a chance to DA2 before it was released. I'm glad I did not listen

You already know this but different design teams as well as different develop cycle.  ME 3 will have roughly the same amount of time in development as ME 2 had and whether you like ME 2 or not you can't accuse ME 2 of being rushed.

[abaris]

KotorEffect3 wrote...



A game that doesn't come out for 2 months.   Try playing it before you hate on it.

The wiser decision would be "look good and hard before you buy".

As I said, I'm neither pessimistic (well just a tad, since I learned about multiplayer) nor optimistic. But I don't give any developer any credit before I have seen my share of reviews and opinions and possibly seen the game in action at some store.

If that turns out to interest me, they will have my money and my praise.

[argonian persona]

best_eva wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

best_eva wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

best_eva wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

best_eva wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

Things that make me extremely pessimistic revolves primarily around gameplay issues, including too much shooting without optional gameplay variety (exploring), multiplayer, linearity, simplistic button mashing/ holding, gameplay modes (an rpg mode in an rpg = wtf?) and lack of branching story plots (broken promise).

You've already posted nobody seems to give a crap, are you talking to yourself or something?  Also don't even try to talk about the story you stupid idiot you already proved you didn't read the leak when you claimed the person who died on virmire was alive don't embarrass yourself anymore. 

Oh look, its sh!t for brains!! Taking a break from masturbating to troll me some more, eh?

are you done fantasising about you skyrim character, or can you now see the light of day because you've removed your ass from you anus?  Probablly not because you still can't provide a counter argument. 

My 9 year old dog has more intelligence than you do. You can meet him, I invited you over, remember?

you still haven't provided an argument<_<
And if your dog is smarter than me than do you provide the bread on the table or does the dog, also you invited me over?  You're 26 PEDOPHILE!!!!!

Lol. I have provided an argument. My assertion is that you're too dumb to engage in legitimate, elaborate and sophisticated argumentation with me. I studied argumentation in college and would destroy your mind, along with your psyche, if you could comprehend just how insignificant and meaningless your pitiful existence in the cosmos is. If there was a constellation of stars in the celestial sphere for "the idiot", it'd be a picture of your ugly, pimply face drinking milk from your mom's boob.

ooh look validation from authority, your seriously going down that route?  You supposedly studied that sh!t than why do you think your such hot sh!t?  What makes you think the universe what cease to exist if you suddenly died?  What makes you think your existence is any more significant than anyone elses?  Newsflash it's not, I don't care if you've supposedly studied this crap because any interaction I've had with you has proven absolutely nothing more than the fact that you're more immature than I am.  You're 26 supposedly educated in "argumentation" (I look forward to your future career options) but yet you have nothing better to do than post mindless drivel on BSN, and for soemone whos educated in "argumentation" you seem to have pretty selective memory when it comes to arguments.  My argument was that you made yourself look like an idiot when you claimed the person who died on virmire was alive, you were wrong and you're still trying to act like you read the leak. 

????

I didn't know I was acting like a read the leak. I never, ever said I did. I made a false inference based in information about the leak, but that isn't the backbone of my pessimism over ME3.

And, for once, you're right. In the inevitable end, none of our existences are worth a lick. Better mankind? Yeah, until the Sun dies!!!!!

I form an opinion because I take various elements and form an opinion. It's that simple. I'm pessimistic about ME3, but I'm hopeful and hope beyond hope its amazing. But im very skeptical. However, im keeping an open mind because I love ME and BioWare has talent.

I'm actually more excited for the movie. I can't wait to see Saren on the big screen.

[KotorEffect3]

abaris wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...



A game that doesn't come out for 2 months.   Try playing it before you hate on it.

The wiser decision would be "look good and hard before you buy".

As I said, I'm neither pessimistic (well just a tad, since I learned about multiplayer) nor optimistic. But I don't give any developer any credit before I have seen my share of reviews and opinions and possibly seen the game in action at some store.

If that turns out to interest me, they will have my money and my praise.

Fair enough,  I am getting it because I have put too much time in the first two games not to pick up the third one.  I want to see how all of my decisions and more importantly it is finaly time to take on the reapers, as far as as antogonists go they are probably my favorite video game antagonists that I have seen in a  long time.  Just seeing them attack earth in the demo was enough to get me excited.

[crimzontearz]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

OmegaBlue0231 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
a pessimist is what an optimist calls a realist

Not really, because they'd have to still take in the optimits point as well, by denying it they're not being realist because you'd have to judge the good and the bad as equals and not expect anything until you've seen it first.

1 was quoting Ash from ME1

2: it still applies from the preamble that we can only form realistic, optimistic or pessimistic expectations from what we know



also....I was told I should have given a chance to DA2 before it was released. I'm glad I did not listen

You already know this but different design teams as well as different develop cycle.  ME 3 will have roughly the same amount of time in development as ME 2 had and whether you like ME 2 or not you can't accuse ME 2 of being rushed.

not the point, I am merely saying that the skeptics have reason to be skeptical until way more info is released or the game is out.

me? I have preordered and paid in full my N7 edition the very day Gamestop got the SKU for it, draw your conclusions.

[KotorEffect3]

crimzontearz wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

OmegaBlue0231 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
a pessimist is what an optimist calls a realist

Not really, because they'd have to still take in the optimits point as well, by denying it they're not being realist because you'd have to judge the good and the bad as equals and not expect anything until you've seen it first.

1 was quoting Ash from ME1

2: it still applies from the preamble that we can only form realistic, optimistic or pessimistic expectations from what we know



also....I was told I should have given a chance to DA2 before it was released. I'm glad I did not listen

You already know this but different design teams as well as different develop cycle.  ME 3 will have roughly the same amount of time in development as ME 2 had and whether you like ME 2 or not you can't accuse ME 2 of being rushed.

not the point, I am merely saying that the skeptics have reason to be skeptical until way more info is released or the game is out.

me? I have preordered and paid in full my N7 edition the very day Gamestop got the SKU for it, draw your conclusions.

Ok I understand what you are saying,  I can't say I am skeptical though, just excited been looking forward to ME 3 ever since I concluded my first playthrough of ME 1 four years ago.

[abaris]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Fair enough,  I am getting it because I have put too much time in the first two games not to pick up the third one.  I want to see how all of my decisions and more importantly it is finaly time to take on the reapers, as far as as antogonists go they are probably my favorite video game antagonists that I have seen in a  long time.  Just seeing them attack earth in the demo was enough to get me excited.

I love the first two instalments. But I have witnessed what they have done to the Dragon Age series.

I'm not saying they haven't learned their lesson, but I'm not giving them any advance credit either. If it isn't my cup of tea I can easily wait till it's on sale to have the whole series.

[N7Raider]

abaris wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Fair enough,  I am getting it because I have put too much time in the first two games not to pick up the third one.  I want to see how all of my decisions and more importantly it is finaly time to take on the reapers, as far as as antogonists go they are probably my favorite video game antagonists that I have seen in a  long time.  Just seeing them attack earth in the demo was enough to get me excited.

I love the first two instalments. But I have witnessed what they have done to the Dragon Age series.

I'm not saying they haven't learned their lesson, but I'm not giving them any advance credit either. If it isn't my cup of tea I can easily wait till it's on sale to have the whole series.

Again Dragon Age team=/=Mass Effect team, they are two seperate groups of people. 

[Praetor Knight]

I used to be pessimistic, then I took an arrow to the knee.

[best_eva]

argonian persona wrote...

best_eva wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

best_eva wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

best_eva wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

best_eva wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

Things that make me extremely pessimistic revolves primarily around gameplay issues, including too much shooting without optional gameplay variety (exploring), multiplayer, linearity, simplistic button mashing/ holding, gameplay modes (an rpg mode in an rpg = wtf?) and lack of branching story plots (broken promise).

You've already posted nobody seems to give a crap, are you talking to yourself or something?  Also don't even try to talk about the story you stupid idiot you already proved you didn't read the leak when you claimed the person who died on virmire was alive don't embarrass yourself anymore. 

Oh look, its sh!t for brains!! Taking a break from masturbating to troll me some more, eh?

are you done fantasising about you skyrim character, or can you now see the light of day because you've removed your ass from you anus?  Probablly not because you still can't provide a counter argument. 

My 9 year old dog has more intelligence than you do. You can meet him, I invited you over, remember?

you still haven't provided an argument<_<
And if your dog is smarter than me than do you provide the bread on the table or does the dog, also you invited me over?  You're 26 PEDOPHILE!!!!!

Lol. I have provided an argument. My assertion is that you're too dumb to engage in legitimate, elaborate and sophisticated argumentation with me. I studied argumentation in college and would destroy your mind, along with your psyche, if you could comprehend just how insignificant and meaningless your pitiful existence in the cosmos is. If there was a constellation of stars in the celestial sphere for "the idiot", it'd be a picture of your ugly, pimply face drinking milk from your mom's boob.

ooh look validation from authority, your seriously going down that route?  You supposedly studied that sh!t than why do you think your such hot sh!t?  What makes you think the universe what cease to exist if you suddenly died?  What makes you think your existence is any more significant than anyone elses?  Newsflash it's not, I don't care if you've supposedly studied this crap because any interaction I've had with you has proven absolutely nothing more than the fact that you're more immature than I am.  You're 26 supposedly educated in "argumentation" (I look forward to your future career options) but yet you have nothing better to do than post mindless drivel on BSN, and for soemone whos educated in "argumentation" you seem to have pretty selective memory when it comes to arguments.  My argument was that you made yourself look like an idiot when you claimed the person who died on virmire was alive, you were wrong and you're still trying to act like you read the leak. 

????

I didn't know I was acting like a read the leak. I never, ever said I did. I made a false inference based in information about the leak, but that isn't the backbone of my pessimism over ME3.

And, for once, you're right. In the inevitable end, none of our existences are worth a lick. Better mankind? Yeah, until the Sun dies!!!!!

I form an opinion because I take various elements and form an opinion. It's that simple. I'm pessimistic about ME3, but I'm hopeful and hope beyond hope its amazing. But im very skeptical. However, im keeping an open mind because I love ME and BioWare has talent.

I'm actually more excited for the movie. I can't wait to see Saren on the big screen.

You were making it seem like you read the leak when you were saying there were no branching plot lines and stating it as fact, if you're getting this from idiots like seboist or dave of canada you shouldn't believe them.  You also said it failed to follow its own lore and that's when you said the person on virmire was still alive.  As for your opinion I can't stand yours or anyone elses pointless cynisicm, you have concerns fine but I get damn sick of reading absolutley nothing but negativity being stated as fact.  Now if we have seen 6+ hours of gameplay and it was bad than that's another story but we've only seen about 30 minutes. 

[abaris]

N7Raider wrote...

Again Dragon Age team=/=Mass Effect team, they are two seperate groups of people. 

But the same mother handing out the spending money and calling the shots.

I won't say in advance it's crap and I won't sing praises in advance. I just wait and see.

[crimzontearz]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

OmegaBlue0231 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
a pessimist is what an optimist calls a realist

Not really, because they'd have to still take in the optimits point as well, by denying it they're not being realist because you'd have to judge the good and the bad as equals and not expect anything until you've seen it first.

1 was quoting Ash from ME1

2: it still applies from the preamble that we can only form realistic, optimistic or pessimistic expectations from what we know


also....I was told I should have given a chance to DA2 before it was released. I'm glad I did not listen

You already know this but different design teams as well as different develop cycle.  ME 3 will have roughly the same amount of time in development as ME 2 had and whether you like ME 2 or not you can't accuse ME 2 of being rushed.

not the point, I am merely saying that the skeptics have reason to be skeptical until way more info is released or the game is out.

me? I have preordered and paid in full my N7 edition the very day Gamestop got the SKU for it, draw your conclusions.

Ok I understand what you are saying,  I can't say I am skeptical though, just excited been looking forward to ME 3 ever since I concluded my first playthrough of ME 1 four years ago.

and I am one of the people who has some 30+ playthroughs of each ME1 and 2...my point remains especially since Bioware seems to be catering more and more to the ehooter crowd....tho the latest bioweare pulse helped

[Praetor Knight]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

I used to be pessimistic, then I took an arrow to the knee.

Ouch, nasty video. 

[GHOST OF FRUITY]

I'm excited for ME3 - A couple of issues had me frowning a bit, but that's true of any game i've been looking forward to. No game is perfect. As long as ME3 is as great as the first two games i'll be perfectly happy. And even if its not, worrying and moaning isn't going to change it.

[Sturmwulfe]

I remain above optimistic, I'm actually excited. I've been playing since ME1, and I thought most of the improvements and changes in 2 were rather welcome, although I do miss some things from the first game (on planet exploration was fun, I just wish that there was more variety to the worlds and they were a bit easier to navigate terrain wise, for example). I think a lot of the changes for 2 were because EA took over publishing and probably had more say in the direction the game play took, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't find it a lot more fun to play. I for one am not a fan of sorting through 300 items in an inventory or scouring every corner of a level on the off chance I'd find a better weapon, so having distinct weapons and the ability to change ammunition types on the fly was very much so welcome. I do miss a lot of the tech abilities though, like sabotage and what not, and I hope the changes for the 3rd game bring some more varied abilities back to the series. The weapon attachments and apparent RPG stat tweeks are welcome news, in my mind.

I don't get why everyone is automatically frothing at the mouth over multiplayer (Multiplayer? In MY MASS EFFECT? NOT TODAY, ZURG!) without really seeing it in action or even giving it a chance. I think Bioware mentioned another studio separate from the single player is handling that, so I doubt it's going to affect the quality or length of the single player. It's pretty much entirely optional, so you can avoid it entirely if that's your choice. I personally am excited for it. It's a way for me to kind of enjoy the world with my friends, and make another character who isn't human which makes me a very happy camper. Bioware's already shown they can handle multiplayer well with The Old Republic, where the story lines for each class and character interactions are just as good as their single player offerings, and that's in an MMO! Take a look at Assassin's Creed. There's a series that was less likely to offer any sort of multiplayer, and when they came out with it, it turned out being one of the most innovative and rewarding multiplayer experiences I've played on the 360.

I think a part of the problem is a lot of people see one thing they don't like, and that's the immediate red flag and nothing will convince them otherwise to give it a shot. I hate to say it, but most people's complaints don't really seem like constructive criticism, but rather just griping for the sake of griping. Others just don't like how it isn't exactly what they had in mind or expected, or the story isn't going the way they think it should, so it's arbitrarily going to be horrible in their books. These people can't be helped.

For everyone else, we haven't even seen most of the game and what it's going to offer, so let's trust Bioware to give us one hell of a way to end the series.

[Selene Moonsong]

Meh, I pre-ordered ME 3 quite a while ago. Truth is, I pay little attention to hype or gripe extremism often found in pre-release forums.

Someone always has a gripe about something, and others are always hyper-excited about something, polar opposites if you will, but we all have our respective points of view.

I, for one, have a lot of faith in BioWare as developers best some of the best games I have ever enjoyed a great deal over the years and yet keep my expectations in check and well grounded.

Anyone who knows me from the original BioBoards forums knows that I am a long-time RPG fan. I feel that the RPG elements of BioWare games are some of the best you will find in cRPG's.

However, I actually avoided ME at release because of the shooter elements. However, I was pleasantly surprised when I tried ME 2. I was impressed enough by ME 2 that I finally got hubby to order ME 1, and was very pleasantly surprised by the RPG elements that that I became the fan of ME 1 as well.

I look forward to ME 3 as an Action RPG (and I am no shooter fan) and have high hopes for both the action and RPG elements for that game as well.

[Sturmwulfe]

Selene Moonsong wrote...

Meh, I pre-ordered ME 3 quite a while ago. Truth is, I pay little attention to hype or gripe extremism often found in pre-release forums.

Someone always has a gripe about something, and others are always hyper-excited about something, polar opposites if you will, but we all have our respective points of view.

I, for one, have a lot of faith in BioWare as developers best some of the best games I have ever enjoyed a great deal over the years and yet keep my expectations in check and well grounded.

Anyone who knows me from the original BioBoards forums knows that I am a long-time RPG fan. I feel that the RPG elements of BioWare games are some of the best you will find in cRPG's.

However, I actually avoided ME at release because of the shooter elements. However, I was pleasantly surprised when I tried ME 2. I was impressed enough by ME 2 that I finally got hubby to order ME 1, and was very pleasantly surprised by the RPG elements that that I became the fan of ME 1 as well.

I look forward to ME 3 as an Action RPG (and I am no shooter fan) and have high hopes for both the action and RPG elements for that game as well.

Excellently put, absolutely agreed.

[Volus Warlord]

Sturmwulfe wrote...

Selene Moonsong wrote...

*snip*

Excellently put, absolutely agreed.

Going for the brownie points?

[GMagnum]

Selene Moonsong wrote...

Meh, I pre-ordered ME 3 quite a while ago. Truth is, I pay little attention to hype or gripe extremism often found in pre-release forums.

Someone always has a gripe about something, and others are always hyper-excited about something, polar opposites if you will, but we all have our respective points of view.

I, for one, have a lot of faith in BioWare as developers best some of the best games I have ever enjoyed a great deal over the years and yet keep my expectations in check and well grounded.

Anyone who knows me from the original BioBoards forums knows that I am a long-time RPG fan. I feel that the RPG elements of BioWare games are some of the best you will find in cRPG's.

However, I actually avoided ME at release because of the shooter elements. However, I was pleasantly surprised when I tried ME 2. I was impressed enough by ME 2 that I finally got hubby to order ME 1, and was very pleasantly surprised by the RPG elements that that I became the fan of ME 1 as well.

I look forward to ME 3 as an Action RPG (and I am no shooter fan) and have high hopes for both the action and RPG elements for that game as well.

o selene u alway make da bes posts <33 tbh

[Selene Moonsong]

But, Oh the typos in my post! LOL