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[T3HB3N]

cephasjames wrote...

T3HB3N wrote...

I think an expansion would be perfect. Whether or not they're profitable, after all the lessons learned and all the feedback heard from, it would be a great way of showing that Bioware has learned from the mistakes of DAII and letting us continue into the story of DAIII from a much better note in terms of quality.

But that's just my opinion, and probably not the opinion of whoever's behind money-making.

And letting us know before DA3 that they have it figured out. That could help DA3 sales some.

Exactly. You're going to get back some fanbase and then increase sales for your next main installment if you can prove you know what you're doing again BEFORE you make a large investment into something that might not make as much profit because of the failures of the last game.

[Heimdall]

Ericander77 wrote...

they left character's stories unfinished (and i'm pretty sure they said they would finish them)

so i'm betting there will be an expansion. the biggest thing left hanging was Merrill's mirror

  Well, if it was rivalry she broke it and if not she was never able to finish it.  What's left to do?

[Deadmac]

Forget "Dragon Age II: The Expansion"... Its time for "Dragon Age: Origins II".

Modifié par Deadmac, 08 janvier 2012 - 03:49 .

[Fast Jimmy]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Ericander77 wrote...

they left character's stories unfinished (and i'm pretty sure they said they would finish them)

so i'm betting there will be an expansion. the biggest thing left hanging was Merrill's mirror

  Well, if it was rivalry she broke it and if not she was never able to finish it.  What's left to do?

If she spent seven years trying to fix something then just gave up after one bad afternoon, I feel like that is a waste.

I could see a spin off where the Eluvian becomes active again and... things... start happening. Evil things.

Maybe like MotA was DA's spin on a thief-type game, this DLC could be their spin on a survival horror type genre?

And you could say the mirror started acting up whether Merril wasn't able to fix the mirror or if she broke it, that can be side-stepped fairly easily with a line like "I thought the mirror was destroyed... but I was wrong. DEAD wrong." LOL

[Heimdall]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Ericander77 wrote...

they left character's stories unfinished (and i'm pretty sure they said they would finish them)

so i'm betting there will be an expansion. the biggest thing left hanging was Merrill's mirror

  Well, if it was rivalry she broke it and if not she was never able to finish it.  What's left to do?

If she spent seven years trying to fix something then just gave up after one bad afternoon, I feel like that is a waste.

I could see a spin off where the Eluvian becomes active again and... things... start happening. Evil things.

Maybe like MotA was DA's spin on a thief-type game, this DLC could be their spin on a survival horror type genre?

And you could say the mirror started acting up whether Merril wasn't able to fix the mirror or if she broke it, that can be side-stepped fairly easily with a line like "I thought the mirror was destroyed... but I was wrong. DEAD wrong." LOL

Death of dear one and the loss of the only being Merril knew had the knowledge to fix it is quite a bad afternoon...

It was never doing stuff on its own before she broke/abandoned it, I think this is more some wanting something to happen than Bioware leaving something unfinished.

[Fast Jimmy]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Death of dear one and the loss of the only being Merril knew had the knowledge to fix it is quite a bad afternoon...

It was never doing stuff on its own before she broke/abandoned it, I think this is more some wanting something to happen than Bioware leaving something unfinished.

I had the feeling that Merril had been forced to fight a demon, kill her mentor and (possibly) slaughter her entrie clan all in the name of fixing the Eluvian.

Even if that was supposed to be the end of it, I wish there was maybe a wrap-up quest where you did something to dispose of the mirror after all of that. Sweeping the whole thing under the rug seems a bit forced, to me. That's why I felt it was unfinished, because the mirror was the reason for Merril's existence for almost a decade and then its just over, abruptly.

[Heimdall]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Death of dear one and the loss of the only being Merril knew had the knowledge to fix it is quite a bad afternoon...

It was never doing stuff on its own before she broke/abandoned it, I think this is more some wanting something to happen than Bioware leaving something unfinished.

I had the feeling that Merril had been forced to fight a demon, kill her mentor and (possibly) slaughter her entrie clan all in the name of fixing the Eluvian.

Even if that was supposed to be the end of it, I wish there was maybe a wrap-up quest where you did something to dispose of the mirror after all of that. Sweeping the whole thing under the rug seems a bit forced, to me. That's why I felt it was unfinished, because the mirror was the reason for Merril's existence for almost a decade and then its just over, abruptly.

Well, she did those things as a consequence of trying to fix the eluvian, but not in the name of.  While it may have felt a little abrupt, Merril did dispose of it or left it there having no way to proceed.  Abrupt, yes, but follow up really one makes sense for the latter outcome and then the story is still not unfinished as is.

[CARL_DF90]

I would LOVE to see an expansion, but sadly I don't see it happening again. Not unless there is a BIG push to make it happen and right now this thread with only its 3 pages in a 24 hour period is not enough of a push to make the DA team there is enough demand to justify the cost. I hope I am wrong of course. I would LOVE to see a 6 to 8 hour expansion bridging the story between DAII and DAIII. That would be mildly awesome. 

[DreamwareStudio]

Given that Awakenings sold so poorly and DA 2 garnered less than half of Origins' sales, I seriously doubt we'll see an expansion.

[Atakuma]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

PresidentCowboy wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Johnny20 wrote...

I cannot see any new content being released for DA:II at this point, sadly.

It would be a pretty boneheaded move on Bioware's part to just stop without saying anything.

Lionhead did that for Fable 3 after one DLC, and it was far more successful than DA2.

How is that relevant to what I said?

"It would be stupid for Bioware to stop making DLC without saying anything", not so stupid when other people get away with it

Yeah that's wierd. I don't remember why I said that.

[mcneil_1]

If they are going to release an expansion or more dlc, I hope they fit into the timeskips.

[Leannan]

bl00dsh0t wrote...

An expansion won't happen simply because nobody does expansions anymore. DLC is more profitable and a much lower risk than developing an awakening size expansion. The bad reception of DA2 as well as the fact that the nr. of copy's of DA2 bought are still below 2 million units makes it very very unlikely that they will risk that investment.

Awakening was bought by 300 000 of the 4.8 million that bought origins, i.e. 6.25% of the original copies sold of the game. 6.25 % of 2 million would be 125 000 copies sold if we would assume it would appeal to the same %age of the consumers.

Even the most dedicated DA2 fan should be aware that the critical and user acceptance of DA2 is a fair bit below that of DAO so that number is not likely to be matched.

I'd be surprised if an expansion comes out, even if I'm curious whether or not they can pull off an improved DA2. It is just not a fiscally sound approach when DLC can be used to test new ways to to improve the game while they work on DA3

Your logic has just punched my hope right in the face, I had been crossing my fingers that they would release an expansion (both for more game time and some closure) But your right, I don't think there is enough profit in an expansion

[Leannan]

CARL_DF90 wrote...

I would LOVE to see an expansion, but sadly I don't see it happening again. Not unless there is a BIG push to make it happen and right now this thread with only its 3 pages in a 24 hour period is not enough of a push to make the DA team there is enough demand to justify the cost. I hope I am wrong of course. I would LOVE to see a 6 to 8 hour expansion bridging the story between DAII and DAIII. That would be mildly awesome. 

Let us join hands and pray to the gaming gods comrade!

[Drasanil]

No, just no. Hawke needs to crawl into a ditch and die already, I don't need a conclusion to the Hawke story, in fact I wish there simply hadn't been one in the first place.

Given DA2 was one of Bioware's worst showings I very much doubt they'd produce an expansion for it. I just hope they learned their lesson and put some effort into DA3.

[sangy]

CARL_DF90 wrote...

I would LOVE to see an expansion, but sadly I don't see it happening again. Not unless there is a BIG push to make it happen and right now this thread with only its 3 pages in a 24 hour period is not enough of a push to make the DA team there is enough demand to justify the cost. I hope I am wrong of course. I would LOVE to see a 6 to 8 hour expansion bridging the story between DAII and DAIII. That would be mildly awesome. 

I doubt this thread has anything to do with the deciding factor of wether or not they would make an expansion.  I don't think there was a big demand for Awakenings when it was chosen to be made.  I think you're right though, if there was a huge demand for it, that could help.

My guess is they already have ideas for an expansion or they don't.  Like most here have said a DLC is much more likely.  Unfortunately, most DLCs are very short.  I mainly expressed my hopes for an expansion because I know DA3 is a long ways away. 

An expansion to continue the DA2 adventure, or even better, bridge DA2 to DA3 would be sweet.  Then again, this is an opinion as some obviously want DA2 to stop where it is.  Who knows though, Bioware could manage it nicely.

[macrocarl]

There was talk that at a convention (maybe PAX) there was a follower screen shown that had armor equipping capabilities that looked similar to the DA2 interface but with tweaks. Or that's what I remember hearing. If that's the case, and again, I could be misremembering, that post could've been mistaken etc. then it's possible that an expansion where they can noodle with stuff like that would be in the works. Not sure though, but crossing my fingers anyway.

[Atakuma]

Drasanil wrote...

No, just no. Hawke needs to crawl into a ditch and die already, I don't need a conclusion to the Hawke story, in fact I wish there simply hadn't been one in the first place.

Just because you have no interest in it doesn't mean it shouldn't be made. You wouldn't have to play it.

[Yrkoon]

google_calasade wrote...

Given that Awakenings sold so poorly and DA 2 garnered less than half of Origins' sales, I seriously doubt we'll see an expansion.

For an expansion pack, Awakening sold unbelievably well.

[Atakuma]

Yrkoon wrote...

google_calasade wrote...

Given that Awakenings sold so poorly and DA 2 garnered less than half of Origins' sales, I seriously doubt we'll see an expansion.

For an expansion pack, Awakening sold unbelievably well.

No it didn't.

[Yrkoon]

Atakuma wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

google_calasade wrote...

Given that Awakenings sold so poorly and DA 2 garnered less than half of Origins' sales, I seriously doubt we'll see an expansion.

For an expansion pack, Awakening sold unbelievably well.

No it didn't.

Yes.  it did.

[alex90c]

sales figures?

versus another successful expansion pack?

[Yrkoon]

http://gamrreview.vg...gins-awakening/

355,000.

That's more than Throne of Bhaal. That's more than Hordes of the Underdark. In fact, I believe 355,000 makes it the biggest selling Expansion pack in Bioware History.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 09 janvier 2012 - 09:50 .

[Jorina Leto]

It could help to fix the reputation of Bioware and the Dragon Age franchise.