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[Zanallen]

Yrkoon wrote...

http://gamrreview.vg...gins-awakening/

355,000.

That's more than Throne of Bhaal. That's more than Hordes of the Underdark. In fact, I believe 355,000 makes it the biggest selling Expansion pack in Bioware History.

In what world is less than 10% of the base game's sales considered a success?

[Yrkoon]

Zanallen wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

http://gamrreview.vg...gins-awakening/

355,000.

That's more than Throne of Bhaal. That's more than Hordes of the Underdark. In fact, I believe 355,000 makes it the biggest selling Expansion pack in Bioware History.

In what world is less than 10% of the base game's sales considered a success?

The world of expansion packs.    Most people don't purchase expansion packs.   And  the   avaliable market is a lot smaller already  due to the   fact that they require the Original.  So basically take the gaming world.  Subtract Everyone who Didn't Buy the Original title.      That narrows things down to about 5 million  (or whatever DA:O's sales were.)    After you do that,   You have to narrow the pool further:   Only  those who bought and   *liked* the parent game  will ever buy  an  expansion pack for it.

After that, you've got  what remains:  a  small fraction of the Original's sales.  That's the pool you have to work with.  And of that pool, only a modest percentage will shell out 30-40 bucks for a non-full title.

I believe 5% is the standard.  And Awakening beat that.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 09 janvier 2012 - 10:21 .

[Am1vf]

I really want an expansion to continue Hawke's history and, hopefully, polish the issues with DA2 and restore a lot of fan's interest in the series before DA3. And I want to play with my Hawke more time dammit!

Also I would like a more... experimental expansion. One wich would start after returning from the deep roads and detail how did Hawke recover his family state and prosper among the rich and powerfull, I'm thinking something like "The Guild: Renaissance" but bioware-style instead of simulation. We know he has the treasure from the expedition but little more. And maybe then the people known and the choices made in the first act would matter more.

It could also help, at the same time, to deal with the first months of Carver/Bethany in the Templars/Circle, possibly even trying to get them out and eventually accepting the situation. Or helping Hawkes mother to deal with it.

Modifié par Am1_vf, 09 janvier 2012 - 10:40 .

[Atakuma]

Yrkoon wrote...

http://gamrreview.vg...gins-awakening/

355,000.

That's more than Throne of Bhaal. That's more than Hordes of the Underdark. In fact, I believe 355,000 makes it the biggest selling Expansion pack in Bioware History.

That doesn't mean it was successful though. I would imagine Awakening cost quite a lot more to produce than either ToB or HotU.

[Melca36]

Atakuma wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

http://gamrreview.vg...gins-awakening/

355,000.

That's more than Throne of Bhaal. That's more than Hordes of the Underdark. In fact, I believe 355,000 makes it the biggest selling Expansion pack in Bioware History.

That doesn't mean it was successful though. I would imagine Awakening cost quite a lot more to produce than either ToB or HotU.

On Bioware TV one of the taped cons...I believe it was Fernando Melo who said it did very well.

[Kreid]

I'd rather they just focus on DA3.

Modifié par Creid-X, 10 janvier 2012 - 12:15 .

[PARAGON87]

I hope so, the only thing is that it's almost been a year since the game was released, we would've gotten some news about an expansion already.

[tanerb123]

hope not. they better work on da3 and send da2 to the dusty shelves of the forgotten games

[craigdolphin]

Creid-X wrote...

I'd rather they just focus on DA3.

^ This.

Too much about the core DA2 experience is a major turn-off to me: the change in art style, the anachronistic UI, the lack of a tactical camera, the silly combat animations (cartwheel in place while moving less than 6 inches to the left? really?), the auto-attack's inability to aquire new targets and to lose targets when they get knocked back, the lifelessness of the game world, the inability to interact with companions....none of these things would be likely to be fixed with an expansion.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

I'd like a DA2 expansion pack that is a preview of the changes coming in DA3. I think the most important improvement would real jiggly boobies for character like Isabela. Other things I'd like to see are the unique appearance, variable gear we've heard rumors of.

But mostly the boobies.

Modifié par RinpocheSchnozberry, 10 janvier 2012 - 06:35 .

[Gunderic]

Just pull the plug and let this game die. Why would anyone even begin to care about 1-2 extra hours of bad writing and hack & slash linear gameplay with the games that are out and still will be coming?

Diablo 3, Assassin's Creed III, Guild Wars 2, Secret World, Tomb Raider, Bioshock Infinite -- not to mention 2011's backlog. Do people still want to listen to atrocious writing like "I like big boats. I cannot lie" or "Life is a catch. I suggest you catch it while you can" (wtf)?

Modifié par Gunderic, 10 janvier 2012 - 07:57 .

[Atakuma]

Gunderic wrote...

Just pull the plug and let this game die. Why would anyone even begin to care about 1-2 extra hours of bad writing and hack & slash linear gameplay?

Why are you talking about Skyrim on the DA2 boards?

[Gunderic]

Atakuma wrote...

Gunderic wrote...

Just pull the plug and let this game die. Why would anyone even begin to care about 1-2 extra hours of bad writing and hack & slash linear gameplay?

Why are you talking about Skyrim on the DA2 boards?

Skyrim? 1-2 hours of linear gameplay? snark fail.

[Atakuma]

Gunderic wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Gunderic wrote...

Just pull the plug and let this game die. Why would anyone even begin to care about 1-2 extra hours of bad writing and hack & slash linear gameplay?

Why are you talking about Skyrim on the DA2 boards?

Skyrim? 1-2 hours of linear gameplay? snark fail.

1-2 hours of bad writing and hack & slash linear gameplay sounds like every quest in skyrim.

[alex90c]

skyrim

linear

what is this i don't even

[Morroian]

Gunderic wrote...

Just pull the plug and let this game die. Why would anyone even begin to care about 1-2 extra hours of bad writing and hack & slash linear gameplay with the games that are out and still will be coming?

Well you apparently care enough to come on here and post the same diatribes over and over and over again.

[Yrkoon]

Atakuma wrote...

Gunderic wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Gunderic wrote...

Just pull the plug and let this game die. Why would anyone even begin to care about 1-2 extra hours of bad writing and hack & slash linear gameplay?

Why are you talking about Skyrim on the DA2 boards?

Skyrim? 1-2 hours of linear gameplay? snark fail.

1-2 hours of bad writing and hack & slash linear gameplay sounds like every quest in skyrim.

Then you haven't played Skyrim.

Just admit it.

[Tommyspa]

Yrkoon wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Gunderic wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Gunderic wrote...

Just pull the plug and let this game die. Why would anyone even begin to care about 1-2 extra hours of bad writing and hack & slash linear gameplay?

Why are you talking about Skyrim on the DA2 boards?

Skyrim? 1-2 hours of linear gameplay? snark fail.

1-2 hours of bad writing and hack & slash linear gameplay sounds like every quest in skyrim.

Then you haven't played Skyrim.

Just admit it.

If you stick to doing  actual quests in Skyrim then yes it is 1-2 hours of bad/no writing and hack and slash combat. You can feel like that isn't how Skyrim is to be appreciated, but it isn't wrong.

[Morroian]

Tommyspa wrote...

If you stick to doing  actual quests in Skyrim then yes it is 1-2 hours of bad/no writing and hack and slash combat. You can feel like that isn't how Skyrim is to be appreciated, but it isn't wrong.

I think I spent 2 hours in 1 quest from the main storyline alone (out of 15 or so quests in the main storyline).
 

[Rawgrim]

Yrkoon wrote...

Zanallen wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

http://gamrreview.vg...gins-awakening/

355,000.

That's more than Throne of Bhaal. That's more than Hordes of the Underdark. In fact, I believe 355,000 makes it the biggest selling Expansion pack in Bioware History.

In what world is less than 10% of the base game's sales considered a success?

The world of expansion packs.    Most people don't purchase expansion packs.   And  the   avaliable market is a lot smaller already  due to the   fact that they require the Original.  So basically take the gaming world.  Subtract Everyone who Didn't Buy the Original title.      That narrows things down to about 5 million  (or whatever DA:O's sales were.)    After you do that,   You have to narrow the pool further:   Only  those who bought and   *liked* the parent game  will ever buy  an  expansion pack for it.

After that, you've got  what remains:  a  small fraction of the Original's sales.  That's the pool you have to work with.  And of that pool, only a modest percentage will shell out 30-40 bucks for a non-full title.

I believe 5% is the standard.  And Awakening beat that.

No wonder Awakening sold more than Throne of Bhaal and Hordes of the Underdark. Those two were PC only. Awakening sold on PC, PS3 and Xbox360. I wonder how the sales are if you just compare the PC sales.

[tanerb123]

people dont buy expansion packs because they are mostly crap with awful storyline

[Yrkoon]

Morroian wrote...

Tommyspa wrote...

If you stick to doing  actual quests in Skyrim then yes it is 1-2 hours of bad/no writing and hack and slash combat. You can feel like that isn't how Skyrim is to be appreciated, but it isn't wrong.

I think I spent 2 hours in 1 quest from the main storyline alone (out of 15 or so quests in the main storyline).
 

Hell, I spent about 6 hours just doing Blackreach.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 11 janvier 2012 - 12:28 .

[Atakuma]

Yrkoon wrote...
Then you haven't played Skyrim.

Just admit it.

I'm not going to admit to something that isn't true. I'v played the game and that's what every quest i've done has been like.

[Yrkoon]

Atakuma wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...
Then you haven't played Skyrim.

Just admit it.

I'm not going to admit to something that isn't true. I'v played the game and that's what every quest i've done has been like.

Then you haven't done many quests.  Or you're just lying.

There's like 4 different ways to deal with the Civil war *alone*.  

Modifié par Yrkoon, 11 janvier 2012 - 12:43 .

[Atakuma]

Yrkoon wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...
Then you haven't played Skyrim.

Just admit it.

I'm not going to admit to something that isn't true. I'v played the game and that's what every quest i've done has been like.

Then you haven't done many quests.  Or you're just lying.

There's like 4 different ways to deal with the Civil war *alone*.  

I've done plenty of quests and the vast majority have been either fetch this or kill that.