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Ever wondered whatever is the root cause for the belligerent argumentativeness about Intel's poor video chips?


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Gorath Alpha

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I see it often, and don't understand it.  There seem to be some people
who want games dumbed-down to suit their poor (low quality) chips,
instead of admitting they want to be too cheap / too short-sighted to buy
game-capable hardware.  Only AMD and nVIDIA are supported by game
developers, period.  All you get for Intel as video is pity, not help, there's
just nothing that will turn those raggedy pig's ears into flying silk
purses..  The official game requirements for Bioware's games are / were
often rather GOOFY, but never included Intel.  NEVER. No patch for those
is coming.

The worst part of it is that the requirements are really very generous, IMO.

                    ME2

PC MINIMUM System Requirements
OS = Windows XP SP3 / Windows Vista SP1 / Windows 7
Processor = 1.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo or equivalent AMD CPU
Memory = 1 GB RAM for Windows XP / 2 GB RAM for Windows Vista and Windows 7
Hard Drive = 15 GB
DVD ROM = 1x Speed
Sound Card = DirectX 9.0c compatible
Direct X = DirectX 9.0c August 2008 (included)
Input = Keyboard / Mouse
Video Card = 256 MB (with Pixel Shader 3.0 support). Supported GPU Chips: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 or greater(**); ATI Radeon X1600 Pro or greater. Please note that NVIDIA GeForce G.205, G.210, 310, 7100, 7200, 7300, 7400, 7500, 8100, 8200, 8300, 8400, 9100, 9200, and 9300, also (probably) GT 520/610; ATI Radeon X1300, X1550, HD 2400, 3100, 3200, HD 3450, HD 3470, HD 4200, HD 4250, HD 4350, 4550, and (probably) HD 5450/6370 are below minimum system requirements. Updates to your video and sound card drivers may be required. Intel  and S3 video devices are not officially supported in Mass Effect 2.

(**)Two of the Geforce 6800s are worse than the next-lower Geforce game card, the 6600 GT, and should be avoided (6800 SE, 6800 XT).

PC RECOMMENDED System Requirements
Windows XP SP3 / Windows Vista SP1 / Windows 7
2.6+ GHz Cure 2 Duo Intel or equivalent AMD CPU
2 GB RAM
ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT, or better, recommended
100% DirectX compatible sound card and drivers
DirectX August 2008
NOTES: For the best results, make sure you have the latest drivers for your video and audio cards. Laptop or mobile versions of the above supported video cards have not had extensive testing and may have driver or other performance issues. As such, they are not officially supported in Mass Effect 2.  Intel  and S3 video devices are not officially supported in Mass Effect 2.

(Unofficial P.S. Low end hardware will hit a snag right from the start, when any input ends up being ignored, so the first thing to do in the Tutorial amounts to an  impossibility.)

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Gorath Alpha

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ladydesire wrote...

Heck, even online games (and by this I mean MMOs) don't support Intel's integrated nonsense; most of the ones I've tried in the past require a "real" video card. I think sometimes people get lucky with them (Intel integrate video chipsets) and think because it worked once, it should always work. Another possibility is that people that switch from a console version of a game to the PC version probably don't have the knowledge of PC hardware that many longtime PC gamers do and don't want to admit it.


What is so curious is that many of those Intel video chip owners who rail against the requirements will acknowledge that they know the Intel product is defective. 

CrustyCat wrote...

Here's my meanie opinion.  If you don't have an adequate pc,
or don't know if you have an adequate pc, stay with the console
 version if you have one.  I'm sure most you kids out there have
a console.  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

I suppose the comparatively recent release of the Sandy Bridge
processor generation from Intel has prompted the current seige
from the soreheads in this forum.  However, the graphics side of
that equation really doesn't represent any quantum jump for Intel's
video quality at all.  It's the compute side that got the major
improvement. 

What has come up, often, and I already have updated a somewhat
similarly oriented article / message thread in another Bioware forum,
is another low-end system that formerly had played one of the games
with more lenient requirements than ME-2, well enough to suit a
member here, but now cannot do so.  It happens when a stress beyond
what the hardware can handle is applied over and over.  Computers
and hardware never designed for gaming sometimes begin to fail, to
deteriorate, and the only culprit we can think of (we local game players
who would never think of gaming with an Intel video chip) is that
repeated cycles of relatively high thermal conditions eventually can
cause components to begin breaking down. 

The "Sandy Bridge" and "Ivy Bridge" processors from Intel are a bit
new yet to know whether they will suffer from this same malady; they
may be immune, but I doubt it. 

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This is an adaptation from a Bioware discussion thread in another tech forum here.

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 08 janvier 2012 - 12:02 .