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[Ahglock]

charmingcharlie wrote...

Fredvdp wrote...  There are some games that are good enough for me to endure Origin and Mass Effect 3 is one of those, albeit barely. I could say I'm not getting ME3 because of Origin but that would be dishonest.

That said, I sent a complaint to EA where I lied my ass off. I used the good old "I'll have to cancel my CE pre-order" line.

Then you have your answer as to why EA is persisting with Origin.  Now that is fine if you are not strongly opposed to Origin that is your choice, but really your posts ring a tad bit hollow where you are lamblasting Origin but you carry on supporting it.  EA is counting on today's gamer not having any balls and willing to put up with this kind of stuff just to play a game.

You want to know why we have to put up with crap like Origin ?  It's because gamers such as yourself support it.  If the PC community pulled together and avoided EA products we would soon put an end to Origin and we could all play Mass Effect 3 completely free of Origin, but I guess that is too much to ask in this day and age.

Should they not get it all, or just not get it on PC?  If it is required I am not getting it on PC.  Can't say I wont ever get it but seeing how all my saves are on PC I am not in a big hurry to get the xbox version, the GOTY version for $20 seems more likely.  

[Fredvdp]

charmingcharlie wrote...

Fredvdp wrote...  There are some games that are good enough for me to endure Origin and Mass Effect 3 is one of those, albeit barely. I could say I'm not getting ME3 because of Origin but that would be dishonest.

That said, I sent a complaint to EA where I lied my ass off. I used the good old "I'll have to cancel my CE pre-order" line.

Now that is fine if you are not strongly opposed to Origin that is your choice

Also, I never said I'm not strongly opposed to Origin, just that I'm not AS strongly opposed to it as others.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 08 janvier 2012 - 05:20 .

[log1x_dr4g0n]

I'm not a PC gamer too much, seeing as I have a bad PC, but it would be nice if they change their minds about it.

Modifié par log1x_dr4g0n, 08 janvier 2012 - 05:19 .

[Fredvdp]

Edit: Nvm

Modifié par Fredvdp, 08 janvier 2012 - 05:19 .

[charmingcharlie]

Ahglock wrote...  Should they not get it all, or just not get it on PC?  If it is required I am not getting it on PC.  Can't say I wont ever get it but seeing how all my saves are on PC I am not in a big hurry to get the xbox version, the GOTY version for $20 seems more likely. 

That is up to each individual, I am not trying to tell people how they should behave here.  I am just saying if you are posting against Origin then people need to do something other than spouting hollow words about it. 

As for whether you could go the console route again that is up to you.  You would still be supporting EA and you would be sending a message to EA that you no longer wish to game on the PC and you want to game on the consoles.  I personally do not wish to support EA in any way whatsoever since their actions seem to be detrimental to PC gaming as a whole.  But as always it is up to the individual and what they want to do.

[log1x_dr4g0n]

Fredvdp wrote...

I censored myself. Now unquote me and we're good.

Done. Hopefully that'll still work.

[Aaleel]

Ahglock wrote...

Should they not get it all, or just not get it on PC?  If it is required I am not getting it on PC.  Can't say I wont ever get it but seeing how all my saves are on PC I am not in a big hurry to get the xbox version, the GOTY version for $20 seems more likely.  

I'm not getting it at all if it's always on required to play the game, and I have ME1 & ME2 + saves on the Xbox.  But me giving them the money on console as opposed to PC doesn't really do anything.  I'm opposed to EA forcing Origin on gamers for ME3, so I'm not supporting this game with my wallet period if the requirements are always on while playing the game.

[charmingcharlie]

Fredvdp wrote...
Also, I never said I'm not strongly opposed to Origin, just that I'm not AS strongly opposed to it as others.

You still bought their games, you still showed EA that as long as they come up with something "good enough" you are willing to put up with Origin.  You may feel that "they're not getting much use out of you" but they are, they have the program on your machine, they have your money (and will continue to get your money by the looks of it).  So like I said your protests over Origin really do seem incredibly hollow.

You are clearly NOT strongly opposed to Origin because you are using the thing.   When people are strongly oppposed to something they go out of their way to ensure they do not support it in anyway whatsoever.

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 08 janvier 2012 - 05:28 .

[Fredvdp]

charmingcharlie wrote...

Fredvdp wrote...
Also, I never said I'm not strongly opposed to Origin, just that I'm not AS strongly opposed to it as others.

You still bought their games, you still showed EA that as long as they come up with something "good enough" you are willing to put up with Origin.

I bought exactly one EA game (BF3) since EADM became Origin. I learned Origin is bad from my experience with that game. I couldn't have known before it.

charmingcharlie wrote...

You are clearly NOT strongly opposed to Origin because you are using the thing.

I don't use Origin. I quit playing BF3 because of it and now there's no need for me to launch Origin either.

I don't even have it installed.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 08 janvier 2012 - 05:47 .

[Chuvvy]

Random citizen wrote...

Everyone hates origin. Time to discontinue it.

Espicially considering Steam sales went up 100% for the 7th year in a row.

[Jonathan Shepard]

Here's the thing though, Charlie, I'm pretty sure most people are on this forum because of Mass Effect being something they enjoy. For those of us invested in the series, Origin is a huge price to pay. We're not happy about it, but some of us are willing to tolerate it in order to complete the series. I've got 4 Shepards I'm eager to import to ME3.

I protest Origin, but for some of us, the experience of ME3- at least the first playthrough- is worth putting up with Origin. I'll hate it and do everything I can to protect my privacy and complain to EA over and over. But I hope Didymos is right, and that BioWare is fighting to keep Origin out of the damn game.

[inappropriate comments removed]

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 09 janvier 2012 - 11:38 .

[jamesp81]

sacre85 wrote...

Alex_SM wrote...

INSTALLATION OF THE ORIGIN CLIENT SOFTWARE (WWW.ORIGIN.COM/ABOUT) AND REGISTRATION WITH ENCLOSED SINGLE-USE SERIAL CODE(S) REQUIRED TO PLAY, ACCESS BONUS CONTENT (IF ANY) AND ACCESS ONLINE SERVICES

I guess I won't be playing ME3.

Pretty much where I'm at.  [inapprorpiate comments removed]

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 09 janvier 2012 - 11:39 .

[OmegaBlue0231]

As much as I hate playing games on the PC, I feel really bad for PC gamers. After waiting all this time, making the perfect Shep and picking all the right choices it could all be for nothing if everything that some think is true and you're forced between using a product you don't want or not getting to play on the system of your choice (if at all).

[inappropriate comments removed]

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 09 janvier 2012 - 11:39 .

[Aaleel]

[quote]Jonathan Shepard wrote...

Here's the thing though, Charlie, I'm pretty sure most people are on this forum because of Mass Effect being something they enjoy. For those of us invested in the series, Origin is a huge price to pay. We're not happy about it, but some of us are willing to tolerate it in order to complete the series. I've got 4 Shepards I'm eager to import to ME3.

I protest Origin, but for some of us, the experience of ME3- at least the first playthrough- is worth putting up with Origin. I'll hate it and do everything I can to protect my privacy and complain to EA over and over. But I hope Didymos is right, and that BioWare is fighting to keep Origin out of the damn game.[/quote]

But why do any complaining at all if you're going to end up coughing up the money in the end.  That's why no one at EA cares about the complaints because they think in the end people will fold and buy it anyway, which seems to be the case for a lot of people. 

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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 09 janvier 2012 - 11:40 .

[Fredvdp]

OmegaBlue0231 wrote...

As much as I hate playing games on the PC, I feel really bad for PC gamers. After waiting all this time, making the perfect Shep and picking all the right choices it could all be for nothing if everything that some think is true and you're forced between using a product you don't want or not getting to play on the system of your choice (if at all).

I hope there is a way to support BioWare without supporting Origin

Modifié par Fredvdp, 08 janvier 2012 - 05:53 .

[Jonathan Shepard]

[quote]Aaleel wrote...

[quote]Jonathan Shepard wrote...

Here's the thing though, Charlie, I'm pretty sure most people are on this forum because of Mass Effect being something they enjoy. For those of us invested in the series, Origin is a huge price to pay. We're not happy about it, but some of us are willing to tolerate it in order to complete the series. I've got 4 Shepards I'm eager to import to ME3.

I protest Origin, but for some of us, the experience of ME3- at least the first playthrough- is worth putting up with Origin. I'll hate it and do everything I can to protect my privacy and complain to EA over and over. But I hope Didymos is right, and that BioWare is fighting to keep Origin out of the damn game.[/quote]

But why do any complaining at all if you're going to end up coughing up the money in the end.  That's why no one at EA cares about the complaints because they think in the end people will fold and buy it anyway, which seems to be the case for a lot of people. 

[/quote]

I wish I could give all the money to BioWare, and none to EA. Sadly, that's not how it works. There are illegal ways of getting the game where I wouldn't be supporting EA, but I feel like Mass Effect 3 deserves more than that. But if it requires Origin? 

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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 09 janvier 2012 - 11:41 .

[OmegaBlue0231]

Fredvdp wrote...

OmegaBlue0231 wrote...

As much as I hate playing games on
the PC, I feel really bad for PC gamers. After waiting all this time,
making the perfect Shep and picking all the right choices it could all
be for nothing if everything that some think is true and you're forced
between using a product you don't want or not getting to play on the
system of your choice (if at all).

Life will find a way.

For all the PC ME fans, here's hoping!

Modifié par OmegaBlue0231, 08 janvier 2012 - 05:53 .

[charmingcharlie]

Fredvdp wrote...  I bought exactly one EA game since EADM became Origin. I learned Origin is bad from experience.

You still bought an Origin game and you still supported the service.  You  have also said you will buy Mass Effect 3 which will use Origin and therefore you are supporting the service this is even AFTER you have learned it is bad from experience.  So seriously ask yourself if you were EA would you be taking your protests seriously ?

Jonathan Shepard wrote...

Here's the thing though, Charlie, I'm pretty sure most people are on this forum because of Mass Effect being something they enjoy. For those of us invested in the series, Origin is a huge price to pay. We're not happy about it, but some of us are willing to tolerate it (and then sandbox it- oh, wait, even mentioning that isn't allowed. Can you say corporate censorship?) in order to complete the series. I've got 4 Shepards I'm eager to import to ME3.

You don't think I am here because I love Mass Effect ?  You don't think I want to play Mass Effect 3 because I invested in the series ?  I have over 20 Shepard playthroughs saved and have logged nearly 500 hours in Mass Effect 1 and 800 hours in Mass Effect 2.  However as much as I love Mass Effect I appreciate just how dangerous Origin is not only to personal privacy but to the PC platform itself.

Jonathan Shepard wrote... I protest Origin, but for some of us, the experience of ME3- at least the first playthrough- is worth putting up with Origin. I'll hate it and do everything I can to protect my privacy and complain to EA over and over. But I hope Didymos is right, and that BioWare is fighting to keep Origin out of the damn game.

Then like I said your protests are hollow, you are showing EA that as long as they give you something you want bad enough you will throw any objections out the window and that is why they will persist with Origin.  You will find Mass Effect 4, 5, 6 right up to Mass Effect 20 will have Origin because people are showing EA and Bioware that if they make you want something bad enough you will ignore the Origin requirement.

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 08 janvier 2012 - 05:56 .

[abaris]

Jonathan Shepard wrote...

I protest Origin, but for some of us, the experience of ME3- at least the first playthrough- is worth putting up with Origin. I'll hate it and do everything I can to protect my privacy and complain to EA over and over. But I hope Didymos is right, and that BioWare is fighting to keep Origin out of the damn game.

It's just as with vampires. Once you invite them to your home, they can come and go as they please.

Even if it's just for one playthrough.

[Jonathan Shepard]

And I didn't say you didn't like ME, Charlie.

Just said that some people are willing to compromise. And I'm on the fence. I really, really want to play ME3. I've only got a few saves on Xbox. I've been playing the series on PC since release day of ME1.

But like you said- that's what's gonna kill PC gaming. And I hate it. So we'll see. I haven't shelled out the money physically, and I can still cancel my pre-order if it comes down to it.

[inappropriate comments removed]

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 09 janvier 2012 - 11:44 .

[hangmans tree]

Thank you all for the comments in this thread, for the most part its still abiding by the rules, so congrats

I'm really sad and beaten by the fact that I've got brand spanking new PC and all I can hope for are games like The Witcher 2 (which runs beautiful). I was so excited bout ME3 be it strong or marginal with rpg elements, and I wanted to experience the journey all the way: from the shop shelf, unwrapping that magical foil and all that crap which is still fun for me. Installation and the building up at the base of my skull when the first BW logo floats on the screen and then spending HOURS in the character creation section ...or whatever
And I have to put it in the can just because some wise people came up with Origin. Whatever it might do, however harmless it might said to be I refuse to succumb to this.
This is true for me. I am perfectly able to skip on ME3 for that sole reason. I dont give a **** about sand-something or other means of 'playing' the game. I want my copy to be paid for with all its content and without any hassle. Period/fullstop/whatever.

Not to mention that we HAVE to wait for new gen consoles for the games to look better on our platform when... well, you know what I mean.

I already wanted and didnt buy games just because of that and other reasons. BF3 being one of them (I really like good military shooters apart from being a total RPG fan).

PS
I would like to urge you not to discuss 'circumventing methods', hating and off-topic.
Thanks!

Modifié par hangmans tree, 08 janvier 2012 - 06:17 .

[DTKT]

What a shame.

I guess I won't be touching ME.

[OperativeX]

Well i won't be buying the game at all if i can't have it on Steam or Retail DVD (without the need to install Origin).

I've offered you 2 options to take my money EA/Bioware. Don't be stupid.

[Fredvdp]

Jonathan Shepard wrote...

But like you said- that's what's gonna kill PC gaming.

They're only hurting themselves. Steam is doing better than ever.

[Jonathan Shepard]

Fredvdp wrote...

Jonathan Shepard wrote...

But like you said- that's what's gonna kill PC gaming.

They're only hurting themselves. Steam is doing better than ever.

So I've heard. To specify, I meant circumventing Origin and the means of doing so were what was going to kill PC gaming. Now, I'd be much happier if Origin itself was toned down on its invasiveness. But like most everyone else here, the best outcome would simply be that Origin is unecessary for ME3.