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[clennon8]

I freakin' loved DA2. Great characters, great story, and the most compelling videogame protagonist ever.

I just wanted to let Bioware know that as well.

[puppy maclove]

Happy the OP loved it.

Hi Bioware.. just to remind you that DA2 was the disappointment of the year for me. I had more fun opening the box than playing the game.

[milena87]

You're not alone OP: I loved DA2, despite it being also a disappointment in various things.

It kinda reminds me of KotOR2 (aka my favourite game ever along with Mass Effect and DAoC): a flawed game with great characters and an interesting, unfortunately rushed, story.

[Birdhive]

I love it! It was my favorite game of 2011, as well--at least until December.

I gave two copies of it for x-mas (one to someone who knows how much I love the game, and one to someone who is not a gamer, but who I think would be interested in BioWare's storytelling). I find the game to be socially relevant (obviously not literally relevant), and therefore more important than many other games. It was also really funny, which I appreciate in my srs bzness. I enjoy the gameplay too (but not the recycling).

[Sir Martyn Saint]

DA:2 was a great disappoinment!!!

In just 1 month, Skyrim made me forget this big disappointing game of the year.

[Sir Martyn Saint]

Ah!! and I miss my Grey Warden, Hawk doesn't exist...

[NedPepper]

Like the OP said, there were a lot of great games this year. But the only that kept drawing me back? DA 2, warts and all. Why? It's charming, it's different, it has a compelling story and characters, and it's a satisfying role playing experience. (Skyrim is just running around in a world without a story or even direction...I try so hard to role play in Skyrim...it just doesn't happen. There's a huge disconnect with me and the character. It has its charms, true, but it has glaring weaknesses as an strong RPG. The two games are apples and oranges.) And for those that CONTINUE to crap on the game....I still call BS. You're disappointed, maybe, that it didn't become a sequel that YOU envisioned. But to call it the worst game of the year? Sounds like hyperbole, mindless group think (hey look, we'll all post the same thing!), and overexaggeration. All the Bioware charm is there. The charm that made so many of us love Origins and Mass Effect and Jade Empire and KOTOR and Baldur's Gate. The venom is strangely toothless and juvenlie. And at this point, nearly a year later...it's kind of pathetic.

[schalafi]

nedpepper wrote...

Like the OP said, there were a lot of great games this year. But the only that kept drawing me back? DA 2, warts and all. Why? It's charming, it's different, it has a compelling story and characters, and it's a satisfying role playing experience. (Skyrim is just running around in a world without a story or even direction...I try so hard to role play in Skyrim...it just doesn't happen. There's a huge disconnect with me and the character. It has its charms, true, but it has glaring weaknesses as an strong RPG. The two games are apples and oranges.) And for those that CONTINUE to crap on the game....I still call BS. You're disappointed, maybe, that it didn't become a sequel that YOU envisioned. But to call it the worst game of the year? Sounds like hyperbole, mindless group think (hey look, we'll all post the same thing!), and overexaggeration. All the Bioware charm is there. The charm that made so many of us love Origins and Mass Effect and Jade Empire and KOTOR and Baldur's Gate. The venom is strangely toothless and juvenlie. And at this point, nearly a year later...it's kind of pathetic.

This perfectly sums up my feeling about the game, and it's haters.

Modifié par schalafi, 09 janvier 2012 - 02:42 .

[Dubya75]

Skyrim was the best for me (and still is), and then there was Hunted: The Demon's Forge which was the worst game. Ever.
DA2 was somewhere in the middle.
Still have mixed feelings about it, but overall really enjoyed it. Got my money's worth since I completed it 7 times.

[Dubya75]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

People are still crying about DA2... 10 months later? Really?

... REALLY?

Yep. That's what I was wondering in another thread and I got severely reprimanded!
Apparently, we're not allowed to get over the negative things about DA2. We have to keep talking about it like it just happened...
Apparently, the more we whinge and whine, the better DA3 is going to be.

Modifié par Dubya75, 09 janvier 2012 - 03:30 .

[LedinToke]

Compared to Dragon Age Origins, Dragon Age 2 falls short, but considering how quickly the game was created in comparison it's actually not too terrible despite some obvious corner cutting.

[Gotholhorakh]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

People are still crying about DA2... 10 months later? Really?

... REALLY?

I know - I think if almost a year later, in the cold light of day, people can even vaguely be bothered to point out at length what a disappointment a game was, it's gone well beyond the scope of "normal complainers" and into "gone down in in history as a disappointment" territory - that means it will be likely to continue for a long time.

Can't be bothered myself - apart from anything else Skyrim saved 2011 anyway - and the problems that game has will be fixed by the games notably not-crapped-on modding community.

If people are still hanging on to the idea that DA3 might be good, it's definitely worth them mentioning, although I don't hold out much hope of that - didn't BioWare already say they will be adopting a "Charge of the Light Brigade" style push onward with the changes DA2 made anyway?

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 09 janvier 2012 - 04:04 .

[alex90c]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

People are still crying about DA2... 10 months later? Really?

... REALLY?

Yes.

Problem?

[Rahelron]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

People are still crying about DA2... 10 months later? Really?

... REALLY?

People stay quiet as long as there's no one who starts saying that DA2 is the game of the year.

DA2 game of the year? The same year of The Witcher 2? The same year of SKYRIM??

Don't make me laugh.

DA2 can compete with the Witcher 2 on some features (combat, customization, freedom in characterizing the main character) but gets owned in every other way.

DA2 can't compete with SKYRIM. Pure and simple. Someone might not like first person view and the lack of "real" cutscenes, but if he manages to get used to those features he simply can't prefer DA2 over Skyrim.

[Rahelron]

schalafi wrote...

nedpepper wrote...

Like the OP said, there were a lot of great games this year. But the only that kept drawing me back? DA 2, warts and all. Why? It's charming, it's different, it has a compelling story and characters, and it's a satisfying role playing experience. (Skyrim is just running around in a world without a story or even direction...I try so hard to role play in Skyrim...it just doesn't happen. There's a huge disconnect with me and the character. It has its charms, true, but it has glaring weaknesses as an strong RPG. The two games are apples and oranges.) And for those that CONTINUE to crap on the game....I still call BS. You're disappointed, maybe, that it didn't become a sequel that YOU envisioned. But to call it the worst game of the year? Sounds like hyperbole, mindless group think (hey look, we'll all post the same thing!), and overexaggeration. All the Bioware charm is there. The charm that made so many of us love Origins and Mass Effect and Jade Empire and KOTOR and Baldur's Gate. The venom is strangely toothless and juvenlie. And at this point, nearly a year later...it's kind of pathetic.

This perfectly sums up my feeling about the game, and it's haters.

What? No role playing in Skyrim?? I would say no role playing in DA2!

In DA2 you simply have to become the champion of Kirkwall, where's the roleplaying in that? In Skyrim you CAN choose what you want to be. For example you can become the harbringer of the companions, a powerful band of mercenaries. Not your thing? Ok, forget that and become the guildmaster of the thieves guild! Or a powerful archmage at the mages academy, or a fearful assassin, or a bard! You can become everything you want, and these are only side activities!

Freedom and roleplaying means that when the assassins guild kidnaps me and tries to force me to kill innocent people I can turn around and kill their guildmaster. The best thing is that killing the person that I was supposed to help doesn't break the quest, but simply triggers another series of events that ends up with me destroying the assassin guild. Freedom of choice: i can become an assassin or be the one who destroys their organization.

I see why you can't feel attached to your Skyrim character: there are no cutscenes, everything is done through gameplay and so even the most important events don't seem as epic as they should be. But you simply have to get used to a different storytelling technique: after that you'll be more involved than with any other game.

[John Epler]

Telling people they live in a 'fantasy dream land' because they enjoyed DA2? Not acceptable.

If you're unable to be civil, or if you find the idea that other people have different opinions than you to be absolutely shocking, well, perhaps internet forums aren't the place for you.

Thanks.

[grregg]

DA2 was 'okay' in my book. Didn't like it enough to finish it, but it was fun for the 20 or 30 hours that I spent on it. I'm glad that OP really liked it, that's the point of games after all.

[LobselVith8]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I'm glad the OP liked it.

I didn't. I hated it. But that's me.

I'm refraining from posting why I didn't like the game, because I've done that many times before.

I feel the same way. I didn't like Dragon Age 2. Didn't like the story DLC where Hawke continues to do nothing. For a game that was so heavily advertised by the developers - and even Mike Laidlaw - as a game where Kirkwall would change around Hawke's actions, the Champion of Kirkwall continues to be one of the most passive protagonists I've ever encountered. And I'm not sure I care enough to see how Hawke continues to make things worse, or which villain he'll let go this time at the end of the story.

[OSUfan12121]

I was initially very disappointed in DA2 when it launched. I thought i was a horrible way to follow up Origins. I played through it once and stopped. I hadn't touched it at all since Legacy launched but I finally thought I'd give it another go and you know what it's not bad. Sure the repeated enviroments are the worst thing and the story just becomes a mess in act 3 but everything else in the game is decent. The characters may not have the depth of Origins but they're still very compelling and a lot of the side-quests have great storylines, Overall I would give it a 7/10 when originally I would of rated it a 3/10 and I still haven't touched MoTA.

[kingjezza]

Even now, I think Bioware would prefer negative opinions on here, rather than no opinions at all. The simple fact I still come on here occasionally (even if I only ever post a negative view of DA2) means I still hold some interest in future Dragon Age games.

To put that even more simply, negative opinions>>>>>>>>>no opinions.

[elearon1]

The last act was weak, but had it been stronger DA2 would have made my list of favorite all time games. (a very short list) It had it's problems, but I felt that what it did well, it did spectacularly.

[The Dubious]

I actually despised it when I first went through it- hated nearly everything about except for a few quirks like funny dialogue and such, but I don't know the game grew on me- I don't think its anything special in terms of innovation and whatnot, but I certainly don't hate it. It was enjoyable and I don't think I've ever regretted purchasing + wasting hours of precious life playing it.

I however hope the next chapter of the Dragon Age franchise will blow this one out of the water. Regardless of my love for it, this does not change the fact that there are some major and minor flaws- be it bugs and/or story concept (or lack of).

Glad you enjoyed it so much!

Modifié par The Dubious, 09 janvier 2012 - 08:52 .

[Persephone]

nedpepper wrote...

Like the OP said, there were a lot of great games this year. But the only that kept drawing me back? DA 2, warts and all. Why? It's charming, it's different, it has a compelling story and characters, and it's a satisfying role playing experience. (Skyrim is just running around in a world without a story or even direction...I try so hard to role play in Skyrim...it just doesn't happen. There's a huge disconnect with me and the character. It has its charms, true, but it has glaring weaknesses as an strong RPG. The two games are apples and oranges.) And for those that CONTINUE to crap on the game....I still call BS. You're disappointed, maybe, that it didn't become a sequel that YOU envisioned. But to call it the worst game of the year? Sounds like hyperbole, mindless group think (hey look, we'll all post the same thing!), and overexaggeration. All the Bioware charm is there. The charm that made so many of us love Origins and Mass Effect and Jade Empire and KOTOR and Baldur's Gate. The venom is strangely toothless and juvenlie. And at this point, nearly a year later...it's kind of pathetic.

This. A hundred times THIS!

I still don't get the Skyrim hooplaa. "Oooooh, amulet! You marry me now?" is such awesome....role-playing/writing.... 

[The Dubious]

Persephone wrote...

nedpepper wrote...

Like the OP said, there were a lot of great games this year. But the only that kept drawing me back? DA 2, warts and all. Why? It's charming, it's different, it has a compelling story and characters, and it's a satisfying role playing experience. (Skyrim is just running around in a world without a story or even direction...I try so hard to role play in Skyrim...it just doesn't happen. There's a huge disconnect with me and the character. It has its charms, true, but it has glaring weaknesses as an strong RPG. The two games are apples and oranges.) And for those that CONTINUE to crap on the game....I still call BS. You're disappointed, maybe, that it didn't become a sequel that YOU envisioned. But to call it the worst game of the year? Sounds like hyperbole, mindless group think (hey look, we'll all post the same thing!), and overexaggeration. All the Bioware charm is there. The charm that made so many of us love Origins and Mass Effect and Jade Empire and KOTOR and Baldur's Gate. The venom is strangely toothless and juvenlie. And at this point, nearly a year later...it's kind of pathetic.

This. A hundred times THIS!

I still don't get the Skyrim hooplaa. "Oooooh, amulet! You marry me now?" is such awesome....role-playing/writing.... 

Its a new aspect in the series- and a poorly implemented one, I seriously think Bethesda should have just left that out. Other than homecooked meals and sleep bonuses having a spouse is rather moot (unless you pick a wife or hubby that can tag along with you in your adventures- then kind of fun).