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[LPPrince]

SaulTighsEyePatch wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

It can be argued its the fault of the consumer, not Bioware.

Retailer-specific items are not exclusive to Collector's Editions. They are exclusive to the retailers, hence even regular editions will get them.

If a consumer decides they are not happy with the retailer exclusive items they will be getting, it is their choice to cancel their preorder and preorder elsewhere. Should the Collector's Edition not be available at that point is tough luck, but quite probable, since retailer exclusive items are not revealed very early. More often than not they are revealed very close to game launch, so missing out on the Collector's Edition is a risk the consumer is taking.

But then what if the place they originally pre-ordered doesn't have the retailer-exclusive they want and they want another store's exclusive? Like if someone pre-ordered at Gamestop, then Bioware announces the exclusives and the customer decides he wants the exclusive from Amazon. He then cancels the Gamestop preorder and goes to pre-order it on Amazon, but Amazon says they're sold out.

What then? Is it still the customer's fault? Should he have pre-ordered at every single retailer on the off-chance that the one he wants the retailer-exclusive from is sold out by the time the exclusives are announced? See the problem here?

It is totally Bioware's fault. They should have either announced the exclusives earlier or given people more time to pre-order after they've announced it. And yes, more time, because at my Gamestop, they told me that the pre-orders for the 360 were CANCELLED, not SOLD OUT, but CANCELLED. 

Its the consumer's choice to make. If they want the other retailer exclusive, they may have to sacrifice their Collector's Edition items in the chance that they can't acquire them from the other retailer.

So the question comes up, "Do I want to sacrifice my CE for a different item, or keep my CE and just hope I can get the other item later?"

Again, consumer takes the risk.

Now, you can say, "There shouldn't be a risk in the first place", but the fact is, there is.

Retailers have to want bonus items to even get them, they have to pay for them, and this usually happens very late in the development cycle. The items made for retailers are extra add ons that were never meant to exist in the first place(barring a few exceptions), or were items that were going to be nixed but were instead finished for the aforementioned retailers.

People always want to assume the worst. They want to blame the developers, the retailers, the producers, the big names, and never think that maybe, just maybe, the choice is their own to make. Hell, I think we're all guilty of this at some point(even myself).

But this is without a doubt NOT the fault of the developers. Their job is to make the game, and the game's been made. They work within their limits, do what they have to do, sometimes go beyond even that, and then get blamed for what? Someone being miffed because they're going to miss out on a little item?

Definitely something wrong there.

Modifié par LPPrince, 12 janvier 2012 - 07:12 .

[av196vad]

I pre-ordered the Collector's Edition for the 360 at Best Buy on January 10th. They still have plenty of copies left.

[GME_ThorianCreeper]

Preordered my CE from Gamestop's online store like 4 hours ago (360 Version). Amazon seems to be taking preorders still as well.

I would recommend getting it from amazon though since it is tax free and offers free shipping if your not interested in the preorder incentives from Gamestop like I was. I recommend this because I had to pay $92.30 for the CE getting it from Gamestop with the LEAST EXPENSIVE shipping choice. Also the area I live in has an insanely high sales tax. 

Modifié par GME_ThorianCreeper, 13 janvier 2012 - 02:45 .

[Aristorum]

Pre-ordered for 360 in July I think. I vaguely remember my local gamestop not having CE for ME2 a month or two before its release.

[Killitngrillit]

got mine a few weeks ago, for PC.

[SaulTighsEyePatch]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

SaulTighsEyePatch wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

It can be argued its the fault of the consumer, not Bioware.

Retailer-specific items are not exclusive to Collector's Editions. They are exclusive to the retailers, hence even regular editions will get them.

If a consumer decides they are not happy with the retailer exclusive items they will be getting, it is their choice to cancel their preorder and preorder elsewhere. Should the Collector's Edition not be available at that point is tough luck, but quite probable, since retailer exclusive items are not revealed very early. More often than not they are revealed very close to game launch, so missing out on the Collector's Edition is a risk the consumer is taking.

But then what if the place they originally pre-ordered doesn't have the retailer-exclusive they want and they want another store's exclusive? Like if someone pre-ordered at Gamestop, then Bioware announces the exclusives and the customer decides he wants the exclusive from Amazon. He then cancels the Gamestop preorder and goes to pre-order it on Amazon, but Amazon says they're sold out.

What then? Is it still the customer's fault? Should he have pre-ordered at every single retailer on the off-chance that the one he wants the retailer-exclusive from is sold out by the time the exclusives are announced? See the problem here?

It is totally Bioware's fault. They should have either announced the exclusives earlier or given people more time to pre-order after they've announced it. And yes, more time, because at my Gamestop, they told me that the pre-orders for the 360 were CANCELLED, not SOLD OUT, but CANCELLED. 

Its the consumer's choice to make. If they want the other retailer exclusive, they may have to sacrifice their Collector's Edition items in the chance that they can't acquire them from the other retailer.

So the question comes up, "Do I want to sacrifice my CE for a different item, or keep my CE and just hope I can get the other item later?"

Again, consumer takes the risk.

Now, you can say, "There shouldn't be a risk in the first place", but the fact is, there is.

Retailers have to want bonus items to even get them, they have to pay for them, and this usually happens very late in the development cycle. The items made for retailers are extra add ons that were never meant to exist in the first place(barring a few exceptions), or were items that were going to be nixed but were instead finished for the aforementioned retailers.

People always want to assume the worst. They want to blame the developers, the retailers, the producers, the big names, and never think that maybe, just maybe, the choice is their own to make. Hell, I think we're all guilty of this at some point(even myself).

But this is without a doubt NOT the fault of the developers. Their job is to make the game, and the game's been made. They work within their limits, do what they have to do, sometimes go beyond even that, and then get blamed for what? Someone being miffed because they're going to miss out on a little item?

Definitely something wrong there.

Why not simply apply some "common" sense!?

Check first if wanted retailer has the edition and then pre order it. If pre order is accepted, then and ONLY then cancel your previous, not preferred pre order.

Gee, Einstein, why didn't I think of that?  

The point is, the customer still wouldn't be able to get the retailer exclusive he wants if Bioware cancels the preorders right after announcing them, UNLESS he pre-orders at every single retailer. Whether or not he cancels his original pre-order is beside the point. 

[DDG4005]

I preordered three copies-one each from Amazon, Gamestop, and Origin-for the PC.  But I still received an e-mail last night from the Mass Effect web site saying the collector's edition is almost out and that I should preorder now (guess they didn't get the memo).  So Chris was right: the collector's edition really is a limited quantity and anyone that wants it should preorder now (Newegg also has the collector's edtion available in case it's sold out at other venues).

[Calibrationmaster]

i can´t find the collectors edition in my country :PORTUGAL

bioware and his deals suck because not everyone can get it

[KingDan97]

Luc0s wrote...

TO EVERYONE - READ THIS - IMPORTANT INFO:


BioWare keeps telling the CE is in extreme limited quantity and almost sold out. This is NOT TRUE. It's a tactic from BioWare to scare those who are still in doubt to quickly pre-order the game.

BioWare doesn't want you to think long about whether the CE is worth the money or not, they want you to pre-order it ASAP. It's simple sales tactics.


How do I know this? Well, I know in fact 2 store owners of 2 different retailers. I asked both of them if they were running short on supply of ME3 Collector Editions. They both checked and they both said: No.

These 2 store owners could in fact check their supply and pre-orders not only for their own store, but for every single store from their respective retailer through the entire country I live in (The Netherlands).

I've seen the numbers myself and I was surprised. The amount of CE pre-orders they had is NOT EVEN HALF of the amount of CE's they expect to receive on the day of release!

So NE copies aren't sold out, maybe you could extend that to saying PAL copies aren't sold out(Not really, since all included materials would need to be in the native languages of whatever country you buy it in) but this means NOTHING about North America sales. They are selling out, just not in your country.

Modifié par KingDan97, 13 janvier 2012 - 03:39 .

[raikwolf]

Minutes later it was announced I was already making my pre-order XDXD

[Nashiktal]

Luc0s wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...

So NE copies aren't sold out, maybe you could extend that to saying PAL copies aren't sold out(Not really, since all included materials would need to be in the native languages of whatever country you buy it in) but this means NOTHING about North America sales. They are selling out, just not in your country.

The Netherlands gets the game in English, not in Dutch (not even Dutch subtitles). We basically get the same version as the UK (the PAL version).

That said: If not even half of all the avaible Collector's Editions are pre-ordered yet in my country (only a small country) I doubt it will be much different in the USA.


My friend the store owner said that on the moment the Collector's Edition was announced, they had a couple of fanatic Mass Effect fans ordering the CE right away within the first couple of weeks after the announcement. After that they only had a small hand full of extra people pre-ordering the CE over the last few months. They still have plenty of Collector's Editions left.

The retailer I'm talking about is Game Mania, one of the biggest video-game retailers in the west part of Europe.

While in your area you seem to be swimming in CE's, talking to the gamestops in my Area (well the area next to my area) the CE is out of stock. Not to mention any online reitailers that may have the CE in low stock.

Bioware may or may not be lying, but there is no way for us to tell as we do not have the complete picture, and we never will.

[Iohanna]

Calibrationmaster wrote...

i can´t find the collectors edition in my country :PORTUGAL

bioware and his deals suck because not everyone can get it

You can't and, mark my words, you never will. We barely get collector's editions around here (if at all).

If you really want the collector's edition (and even if you don't, you'll get a better deal regardless), you might want to visit Merchant2006's thread, where you can see international retailers who can sell and ship it here.

Hope that helps.

[Obvakhi]

Razorsedge820 wrote...

For all those who have already preordered their copy make sure you put some money down on it. Even if you preordered months in advance if the retailer only receives a certain number of collector editions and can't fill all the reserves they will give what they have to the people who already have money down over those who don't.

This happened to my friend when ME2 came out, he preordered his copy months in advance but didn't put a dime down. When we went to Gamestop to pick up our copies we found out that they didn't get enough collector editions to meet the demand so those who already paid (luckily I did) got theirs.

I don't think that can happen anymore. Gamestop requires a $10 minimum for a pre-order. That pretty much guarantees your copy.

Modifié par Obvakhi, 14 janvier 2012 - 02:43 .

[Apocsapel91]

I pre-ordered mine last August. So I'm good.

[pinoy_sav]

Im preordering mine from amazon since amazon has never let me down

[Yuoaman]

My local EB Games was out of pre-orders for the console versions, but still had a few for the PC version, so I was able to snag one. Crazy stuff, man.

[WildWilly10]

Bought mine in June, so...I'm gooooood!

[AVPen]

Finally finished the last little bit left for my Gamestop preorder for the PC CE yesterday (had like $10 left to pay on it), so I'm all set and good to go for March 6 (also preordered the Prima guide, while I was at it) - talking with the clerk, it sounded like there was a couple of CEs still available yet for perorder, but they were going rather quickly now that the release date's closing in.

[Meshakhad2]

Preordered from Amazon in September.

[SirDoctorofTARDIS]

Got mine a few months ago from EB Games( Gamestop).

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

They are still taking preorders at my local EB...