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[Sylvius the Mad]

Oh, and KotOR2. The game gets a lot of praise, but I think it failed fundamentally from start to finish.

There is one sequence in KotOR2 I like, where the player gets to control a team without the Exile in it. Aside from that brief period the game was a complete waste of time.

[MordinKrios]

Hm. Good topic. Quite a few

All CoD since Cod 3.
Uncharted. Don't get it. Indiana Jones rip off.
Resistance.
Gears 3.

[happy_daiz]

Any and all Mario games. If I wanted to puke, I'd start binge drinking.

I'm sad to see Resistance, Uncharted, Borderlands, Skyrim (what?), and Gears on peoples' lists. I guess I'm part of the "everyone else" sector.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 09 janvier 2012 - 08:27 .

[Zanallen]

DuckSoup wrote...

Despise is a pretty strong word. I'd say 'uninterested' is more appropriate.

Final Fantasy (Still going? Seriously? It's boring and the relationships between the characters are highly suspect. He looks waaaaaay too old to be sleeping with her)

Mass Effect (Let me explain. I just feel th--- Zzzzzzzz)

Hm...What relationships were you talking about? I can't think of any offhand that seemed pervelicious. The closest I could think of is Snow and Serah from FFXIII and that really isn't a case of Snow looking too old for 21, but Serah looking kind of young for 18.

[Persephone]

Oblivion

[elitecom]

The entire Gears of War franchise.

I'll give the games some credit for a fluid cover system, but beyond that I find them overhyped, overpraised, and lacking in all other departments. It only barely gets credit for the cover system at all too since even other games such as Everything or Nothing had pretty decent cover systems as well and are much more enjoyable to play.

The main character Marcus Fenix is just one giant walking parody, the same can be said for the rest of the characters in the game. Furthermore I really fail to see why the game got ratings such as Mature from ESRB and 18+ from PEGI or hearing people refering to Gears of War as a mature game, when it's in no way a particularly mature game. Then again, I remind myself that these ratings are not based on the intended audience of the games, but are given for their violance instead.

Epic Games should've stayed with Unreal.

[chunkyman]

Skyrim, slightly. The lack of spell creation is a serious issue I have with the game. Plus a bunch of little things that make it kind of boring IMO.

[Boiny Bunny]

Zanallen wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

Despise is a pretty strong word. I'd say 'uninterested' is more appropriate.

Final Fantasy (Still going? Seriously? It's boring and the relationships between the characters are highly suspect. He looks waaaaaay too old to be sleeping with her)

Mass Effect (Let me explain. I just feel th--- Zzzzzzzz)

Hm...What relationships were you talking about? I can't think of any offhand that seemed pervelicious. The closest I could think of is Snow and Serah from FFXIII and that really isn't a case of Snow looking too old for 21, but Serah looking kind of young for 18.

Personally, what I wish they'd do away with in the Final Fantasy series is the ridiculous weapons that the party uses.  I just played through the first few chapters of FFXIII the other day - it almost makes sense for Lightning to use her sword on the train where it is close quarters, but as soon as she is on the freeway, her fighting a bunch of guys with machine guns with her sword is a tad ridiculous - even worse is when Snow's part starts up, and he is punching them to death.  Really, incredibly, immersion breaking for me.  The sort of thing that we all would have ignored happily in a much older game like FFVII where the focus was never on the presentation - times have changed.  If you want to have a collection of enemies that are wielding guns, give the main characters guns, or at least ranged weapons that make some sense to be using!  (I should note that even when playing FFVII I found the weapons to be ridiculous - it's just more pronounced in FFXIII where every character has a gun and is using cover properly, except the main characters).

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

Crysis series(With the first one it was all about the graphics but the story and gamepaly was meh. Second was unimpressive on all levels even graphics)
Halo Series(Basically I've played this game before, it's called Battlefeld except it's not Sci-Fi. Nothing to see here)
Dead Space series(As an action game it's alright but I cannot take it seriously as a horror game with it's cheap monster out of the closet scare tactics and over the top gore)

[Pedrak]

"Despise" is too strong, but I couldn't get into Fallout 3 and New Vegas. I'll try again with NV though.

[GodWood]

Super Mario 64.

I bought it the year it came out and thought it was (and still is) absolutely sh*t.

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

GodWood wrote...

Super Mario 64.

I bought it the year it came out and thought it was (and still is) absolutely sh*t.

Pretty much all Mario games are.

[phaonica]

Chrono Cross. That was like the most unfun game I've ever played, yet I've rarely seen/heard anyone say anything bad about it except me.

Modifié par phaonica, 09 janvier 2012 - 11:33 .

[Vaeliorin]

phaonica wrote...
Chrono Cross. That was like the most unfun game I've ever played, yet I've rarely seen/heard anyone say anything bad about it except me.

Really?  I've never seen anyone say anything good about it until the last year or so.  Sure, it had some pretty awesome (for the time) cinematics, but beyond that it was an awful game (or rather, sidequest, since that's all it was.)

Anyway...TES games from Morrowind on.  Can't stand them.  I've tried many, many times to get into them, and I just can't make myself care about a game full of dungeons with nothing interesting in them.

[Fast Jimmy]

Final Fantasy 7. Maybe it was because I played it for the first time four years after it came out (didn't have a Playstation for the longest time) but it was not everything it was cracked up to be.

[Gotholhorakh]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

chunkyman wrote...

Skyrim, slightly. The lack of spell creation is a serious issue I have with the game. Plus a bunch of little things that make it kind of boring IMO.

The reused dungeons and dragon encounters get very tedious...

Out of interest rather than to be persnickety (because I'm not aware of any and would like to see them), do you remember which two dungeons in Skyrim are the same?

Also, I'd like to be able to break the news to some friends

[someguy1231]

Baldur's Gate I and II - bought em for $10 each off gog.com, still not sure if I got my money's worth. Especially hated the "You must gather your party before venturing forth" messages and the fact that your magic-using characters had to rest before using spells again, which struck me as illogical if not insane. If I want to throw a fireball at an enemy, I don't want to be required to rest first! The fact that most of the RPG-elitists here hold up these games as their Holy Grail baffles me, and I hope Bioware doesn't suddenly get nostalgic for the gameplay style of these games.

Uncharted series - Not that they're bad games per se, they're basically just the "Tomb Raider" games with regenerating health, updated graphics, and cinematic story-telling. If they're watched as movies, they're pretty good, but played as games? Nothing special.

MW2 and MW3 - just Cod4 with different missions, no evolutions to gameplay or other features whatsoever, also relies too much on cheap shock factor (Airport massacre in MW2, that kid being blown up in MW3, etc).

[Gotholhorakh]

someguy1231 wrote...

Baldur's Gate I and II - bought em for $10 each off gog.com, still not sure if I got my money's worth. Especially hated the "You must gather your party before venturing forth" messages and the fact that your magic-using characters had to rest before using spells again, which struck me as illogical if not insane. If I want to throw a fireball at an enemy, I don't want to be required to rest first! The fact that most of the RPG-elitists here hold up these games as their Holy Grail baffles me, and I hope Bioware doesn't suddenly get nostalgic for the gameplay style of these games.

I think with the BG thing you have to remember that a) the graphics were better at the time, comparatively speaking and resting before casting was very much the norm because it was a D&D game, where you do that as a matter of course. Games of that ilk also bought and played by a lot of people who had some pretty fun times and created some great memories with their friends with that ruleset, setting and creatures so it was pretty great when they were brought to life. It was also good because, like now, there were relatively few really good games which you could truly get your teeth stuck into and nerd over.

I'm not saying you're wrong or arguing (there's far too much of that goes on when people respond to topics about their own personal preferences) - just offering some insight.

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 10 janvier 2012 - 01:35 .

[someguy1231]

Gotholhorakh wrote...

I think with the BG thing you have to remember that a) the graphics were better at the time, comparatively speaking and resting before casting was very much the norm because it was a D&D game, where you do that as a matter of course. Games of that ilk also bought and played by a lot of people who had some pretty fun times and created some great memories with their friends with that ruleset, setting and creatures so it was pretty great when they were brought to life. It was also good because, like now, there were relatively few really good games which you could truly get your teeth stuck into and nerd over.

I'm not saying you're wrong or arguing (there's far too much of that goes on when people respond to topics about their own personal preferences) - just offering some insight.

I never mentioned the graphics, so why would you bring that up? My gripes were solely with gameplay issues.

Every RPG I played before either had a mana-based magic system or cooldown-based system, so to play a game whose magic system was so unlike any I had seen before was a bit of a rude awakening. Whenever I found myself in a place with nowhere to rest and my magic users all but useless thanks to the absurd magic system, I came close to ragequitting.

[Tchos]

Gotholhorakh wrote...

someguy1231 wrote...
The fact that most of the RPG-elitists here hold up these games as their Holy Grail baffles me, and I hope Bioware doesn't suddenly get nostalgic for the gameplay style of these games.

I'm not saying you're wrong or arguing (there's far too much of that goes on when people respond to topics about their own personal preferences) - just offering some insight.

You show far more courtesy than the poster to whom you respond.  I request a moratorium on the use of phrases such as "RPG-elitists", words that imply that people only like these games because it's required as part of some kind of group ideology to which they subscribe, rather than simple personal preference.  I think it's perfectly possible to state one's preferences without casting aspersions on the preferences of other people.

[Il Divo]

Tchos wrote...

 I think it's perfectly possible to state one's preferences without casting aspersions on the preferences of other people.

Agreed.

[someguy1231]

Tchos wrote...
You show far more courtesy than the poster to whom you respond.  I request a moratorium on the use of phrases such as "RPG-elitists", words that imply that people only like these games because it's required as part of some kind of group ideology to which they subscribe, rather than simple personal preference.  I think it's perfectly possible to state one's preferences without casting aspersions on the preferences of other people.

I'll stop using the phrase when people here stop using phrases like "dumbed down for the mainstream", "mindless shooter fanboy", or "Bioware stop pandering to [insert group of gamers I don't like here]!"

Modifié par someguy1231, 10 janvier 2012 - 02:39 .