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IanPolaris wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Glad to have my fears reconfirmed.

"Old script, Bioware has changed it!!!!111"


If it was about Cerberus, I think it was impossible to think that Bioware will change their role.
It it's about something else, what didn't you like in the other quests?


It revives my fears in full about the Rachni Queen.  I can't go into more depth without spoilers but suffice it to say, it seems that BW has disrespected our major prior choices by making them irrelevant.

-Polaris


We don't know if it was a save with the queen saved or not.

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didymos1120 wrote...

In this case, because it'd be a short term advantage: it's not like krogan will instantly know the cure worked.  So you appease the salarians and lead the krogan on, letting them think you gave them what they wanted.


And the second some of them tries to make babies (and they will) your little bluff will be blown wide open.

Smooth.:P 

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didymos1120 wrote...

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Because they removed the renegade base kept dialogue.


That was just alternate stuff from TIM.  There was no alternate Shep dialogue there.


It proves that renegade shepard was meant to be "agreeable" to the Cerberus cause.

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Dean_the_Young wrote...

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Whoa. Stickied.

Just get your Sticky cherry popped, Didy?


Er, "Sticky cherry"? Ick.  But yes.

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Phaedon wrote...

Well, since a specific plotpoint is almost sure to carry over now, Seth Green's jokes/dreams are bound to be fulfilled.


If it's about what I think, I wish it would've remained Green's jokes/dreams.

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hhh89 wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

Well, since a specific plotpoint is almost sure to carry over now, Seth Green's jokes/dreams are bound to be fulfilled.


If it's about what I think, I wish it would've remained Green's jokes/dreams.

It's optional, don't worry about it.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

In this case, because it'd be a short term advantage: it's not like krogan will instantly know the cure worked.  So you appease the salarians and lead the krogan on, letting them think you gave them what they wanted.


And the second some of them tries to make babies (and they will) your little bluff will be blown wide open.

Smooth.:P 

Well, 9 monthes down the road.

(Or however long it is for Krogan.)

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It's optional, don't worry about it.

Or not. Who's to say Joker won't say "yeah you're right" and then do what he wants anyway?

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IsaacShep wrote...

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It's optional, don't worry about it.

Or not. Who's to say Joker won't say "yeah you're right" and then do what he wants anyway?

The script, I think?

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What "Dreams"?

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IsaacShep wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

It's optional, don't worry about it.

Or not. Who's to say Joker won't say "yeah you're right" and then do what he wants anyway?


Because if they're really going all the way with that storyline, you can tell the other part to back off.

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aridor1570 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Glad to have my fears reconfirmed.

"Old script, Bioware has changed it!!!!111"


If it was about Cerberus, I think it was impossible to think that Bioware will change their role.
It it's about something else, what didn't you like in the other quests?


It revives my fears in full about the Rachni Queen.  I can't go into more depth without spoilers but suffice it to say, it seems that BW has disrespected our major prior choices by making them irrelevant.

-Polaris


We don't know if it was a save with the queen saved or not.


Not really relevant.  What's relevant is that the leaked script seems to be nearly 100% correct and that IMO doesn't bode well.

-Polaris

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didymos1120 wrote...
The writer claims the thresher wins, though based on older information, it's only a temporary victory.

You mean the old description of the scene from the first GameInformer article? I'm pretty sure it's been changed so the Thresher Maw just flat-out wins.

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Seboist wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Because they removed the renegade base kept dialogue.


That was just alternate stuff from TIM.  There was no alternate Shep dialogue there.


It proves that renegade shepard was meant to be "agreeable" to the Cerberus cause.


It proves nothing of the sort. For one thing, a lot of it was for Dead Sheps.  For another, there was also dialogue for Renegades who destroyed it. For three, the "live RenShep, kept base" lines from TIM are very obviously responses to Shep questioning TIM's intentions, with TIM trying to appeal to Shep's pragmatism.

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Dean_the_Young wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

In this case, because it'd be a short term advantage: it's not like krogan will instantly know the cure worked.  So you appease the salarians and lead the krogan on, letting them think you gave them what they wanted.


And the second some of them tries to make babies (and they will) your little bluff will be blown wide open.

Smooth.:P 

Well, 9 monthes down the road.

(Or however long it is for Krogan.)


Won't even be that long.  Krogan seem to be very fertile (and thus have high birth rates) and the genophage seems to cause auto-abortions very early in term for almost all pregnancies.  That means that within a couple of months (first trimester in human terms) the Krogan will know....

-Polaris

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aridor1570 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Glad to have my fears reconfirmed.

"Old script, Bioware has changed it!!!!111"


If it was about Cerberus, I think it was impossible to think that Bioware will change their role.
It it's about something else, what didn't you like in the other quests?


It revives my fears in full about the Rachni Queen.  I can't go into more depth without spoilers but suffice it to say, it seems that BW has disrespected our major prior choices by making them irrelevant.

-Polaris


We don't know if it was a save with the queen saved or not.

If you're refering to there being a import save flag in ME2 as to whether or not you saved the Rachni Queen in ME1, there is a flag for that when importing a ME1 Shepard (for PS3 players, it was included as one of the six decisions Shepard can make in that Genesis comic) and there's even a mini-encounter with a representative for the Rachni on Illium if you did save her.

Also just saying this cause it does need to be said, but saving the Rachni Queen does appear have an impact in ME3 (contrary to what others claim).

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Blacklash93 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...
The writer claims the thresher wins, though based on older information, it's only a temporary victory.

You mean the old description of the scene from the first GameInformer article? I'm pretty sure it's been changed so the Thresher Maw just flat-out wins.


Thresher kisses for all!

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IanPolaris wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Glad to have my fears reconfirmed.

"Old script, Bioware has changed it!!!!111"


If it was about Cerberus, I think it was impossible to think that Bioware will change their role.
It it's about something else, what didn't you like in the other quests?


It revives my fears in full about the Rachni Queen.  I can't go into more depth without spoilers but suffice it to say, it seems that BW has disrespected our major prior choices by making them irrelevant.

-Polaris


We don't know if it was a save with the queen saved or not.


Not really relevant.  What's relevant is that the leaked script seems to be nearly 100% correct and that IMO doesn't bode well.

-Polaris


I have discussed your point above, whether the script is accurate or not is none of my concern because everything I've read is fine by me.

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Thanks for the replies regarding the script everyone

- Shame to hear little has changed from the rather negative fan feedback (haven't read it myself)

On a little off topic, at the end of this Mars mission will this be when we get to "recruit" a certain spoiler character?

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Someone With Mass wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

In this case, because it'd be a short term advantage: it's not like krogan will instantly know the cure worked.  So you appease the salarians and lead the krogan on, letting them think you gave them what they wanted.


And the second some of them tries to make babies (and they will) your little bluff will be blown wide open.

Smooth.:P 


Not unless the krogan can prove you sabotaged it.  In any case, from a Renegade perspective, who cares?  You did what you needed to to secure the resources you needed when you needed them. 

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I have discussed your point above, whether the script is accurate or not is none of my concern because everything I've read is fine by me.


It matters to me and it seems to matter to a lot of other people.  Our MAJOR choices (like saving or killing the Rachni Queen) should be respected.

-Polaris

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AVPen wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Glad to have my fears reconfirmed.

"Old script, Bioware has changed it!!!!111"


If it was about Cerberus, I think it was impossible to think that Bioware will change their role.
It it's about something else, what didn't you like in the other quests?


It revives my fears in full about the Rachni Queen.  I can't go into more depth without spoilers but suffice it to say, it seems that BW has disrespected our major prior choices by making them irrelevant.

-Polaris


We don't know if it was a save with the queen saved or not.

If you're refering to there being a import save flag in ME2 as to whether or not you saved the Rachni Queen in ME1, there is a flag for that when importing a ME1 Shepard (for PS3 players, it was included as one of the six decisions Shepard can make in that Genesis comic) and there's even a mini-encounter with a representative for the Rachni on Illium if you did save her.

Also just saying this cause it does need to be said, but saving the Rachni Queen does appear have an impact in ME3 (contrary to what others claim).


Mind you PMing me about it?

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On a little off topic, at the end of this Mars mission will this be when we get to "recruit" a certain spoiler character?

No.

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Alex Arterius wrote...

Thanks for the replies regarding the script everyone

- Shame to hear little has changed from the rather negative fan feedback (haven't read it myself)

On a little off topic, at the end of this Mars mission will this be when we get to "recruit" a certain spoiler character?


No, that's later in the game.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

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In this case, because it'd be a short term advantage: it's not like krogan will instantly know the cure worked.  So you appease the salarians and lead the krogan on, letting them think you gave them what they wanted.


And the second some of them tries to make babies (and they will) your little bluff will be blown wide open.

Smooth.:P 


Not unless the krogan can prove you sabotaged it.  In any case, from a Renegade perspective, who cares?  You did what you needed to to secure the resources you needed when you needed them. 


Honestly, it would not be that hard to if not prove you tricked the Krogan, you'd at very least be the target of very dark suspicions with for Krogan would likely be enough. Of course as you allude to, you might not care if it gets you Krogan troops now.

-Polaris

Modifié par IanPolaris, 09 janvier 2012 - 05:26 .