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[TheChris92]

spirosz wrote...

Wait, people hate on Metal Gear Solid 4? I thought it was loved by everyone because of those 24 hour cutscenes.

I think people hate it because its plot is a load of ******, bad character development like turning them into Cyborg Ninjas, as opposed to the previous games, along with its not so stealthy gameplay. Long cutscenes has always been there and I don't exactly find that to be a problem given they are never boring or unecessary - Well, in the previosu games anyway.. No wait, this isn't true. I think that "I" hate it because of the above reasons, lol -- Although, maybe hate is a strong word. I'm more 'indifferent' towards it.

Modifié par TheChris92, 03 décembre 2013 - 01:39 .

[Kalas747]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Edit: and considering that during the ending, there's a voiceover that's literally from previous points in the game, that explains the ending as it's happening.

Well, when you start to deal with time travel and "paradoxes" you can basically write whatever you want.  For me the story loses some of it's hold when the writers start taking liberties like that.  I'd love to be more specific with the events, but it's been a while since I beat 13-2 and only had a single playthrough.

I enjoyed the games right up untill that point and look forward to the conclusion.  At this point I'm mostly interested in the atmosphere of the game and the gameplay, not so much the storyline.  Although I do like a few of the characters.

[Fortlowe]

Bloodforge. Sometimes I can quite easily be entertained. Sue me.

[TheChris92]

EntropicAngel wrote...

TheChris92 wrote...

Actually, it is - There's never any clear indication in the game as to whether Thornton is out of enemy sight or not. The game doesn't even offer you a chance, especially not on the harder difficulty. The Thief games had the right idea, and always provided a sign of whether or not the player is currently visible and offers a brief delay between being spotted and alert being sounded. The older Metal Gear & Splinter Cell games nailed it too, but has since dumbed it down in exchange of action gameplay. Although, despite Alpha Protocols approach to stealth being as about as subtle as a sperm whale in an airplane luggage compartment, it is still pretty great I'd say.

There definitely is: if the enemy spots Thronton, his little indicator turns yellow and he keeps looking, and may come over to investigate.

Odd how I was able to completely "stealth" the game.

Odd, indeed - I've played plenty of stealth games, but Alpha Protocol doesn't offer much of a chance even if you do build your character solely in stealth. It becomes a game of trial & error every 5 minutes.

And I'll remind you of the first Splinter Cell's subtitle: Stealth action redefined. Blacklist creates more incentive to Ghost (which means to pass through an area without even interacting with an enemy, not even knocking them out) the entire experience than the majority of encounters in every previous game.

Yes, it's a stealth game as opposed to an action game with stealth elements - The Thief franchise is also named an 'action-adventure-stealth game" -- This is due to the sprawly freedom they provide to approach a situation, or big areas to explore and backtracking; It doesn't really change my point at all. They are both stealth games that encourages the player to be sneaky, and being lethal can be punishable. The Action-adventure genre itself is so broad that you can't reallly pinpoint it to be exact, and thus the definition is very inclusive. Typically, pure adventure games have situational problems for the player to solve, with very little or no action. If there is action, it is generally confined to isolated minigames. Pure action games have gameplay based on real-time interactions that challenge the reflexes. Therefore, action-adventure games engage both reflexes and problem-solving, in both violent and non-violent situations. Metal Gear is also considerd a 'Tactical-Espionage-Action', same with Hitman: Blood Money. I'm not gonna make myself smart on Blacklist, but I know that Double Agent (The Xbox 360 version) & Conviction were moving away from being stealth as opposed to an action game where the game makes it convinient to beat mark & execute foes thus elimanating the point of stealth. One of the things that also breaks the idea of Alpha Protocol being stealth is the boss battles -- Some of the boss battles are impossible to do nonlethally without resorting to fire a gun, which you have no experience with, it's the same problem with Human Revolution. But that problem isn't too much of a hassle.

Modifié par TheChris92, 04 décembre 2013 - 11:38 .

[Milan92]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

TheChris92 wrote...

Thornton

Thronton

Poor Mike Thorton; people never get his name right.

I was sure it was Thornton. I actually wrote that deliberately--the "n" at least, the r was a mistake.

Thornton is a nickname he gets through the game. His official last name is Thorton as in Thor the god of thunder 

[Volus Warlord]

ThisOnesUsername wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts

FITE ME IRL DO YOU EVEN LIFT?

It was one of my favorite games of this gen. I'd put it in my top ten for Xbox 360.

[Jorji Costava]

Favorite game that everyone else dislikes? Gotta be Star Control 3; the reception to the game (especially among fans of Star Control 2) was horrendous, but I really liked it. It was actually the first SC game that I played; I owned SC2 before, but no matter what boot disks I used or anything, I could never get anything out of it but a black screen. So SC3 got a lot of points from me simply by being playable.

It's got a lot of flaws, to be sure, but I think that because I didn't have any preconceptions about what Star Control is supposed to be before playing the game, I was able to appreciate it on its own terms a bit more. Also, I was pretty young when I played it, so a lot of the stuff that would seem dumb now didn't seem so dumb back then. Still, good times had by me (and apparently by no one else who played it).

EDIT: Fixed an incomplete sentence.

Modifié par osbornep, 04 décembre 2013 - 08:34 .

[lady_v23]

I'm also adding 'Just Dance 3'. No one I know likes it >.<

[N7M]

The Path.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

So were PS2 Dragon Ball Z games, good ones? Actually I've never heard of a good DBZ game since.

And it seems no one really plays 'Victoria' games. Too casual for Crusader Kings II elites?

[Han Shot First]

Mass Effect 3.

[mybudgee]

Fez

[AventuroLegendary]

I'm adding the first Battlefield: Bad Company. This could be my rose-colored glasses speaking...

[Vort3xX]

None, everyone love the games i play cuz i have goddamn godlike taste in games !

[DarkDragon777]

Halo 3: ODST
Halo Wars
Deus Ex 2
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (For the plot twist only)

Modifié par DarkDragon777, 08 février 2014 - 07:42 .

[UltimaBACON]

silentstep79 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

I liked Metal Gear Solid 4

this.

also Mass Effect 3.

I cannot for the life of me understand how ANYONE can like ME3.