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[Arivle]

shadowhawk233 wrote...

FYI Melca36: DA Devs say they're learning from Skyrim, it does not mean that there will be any DA2 DLC from that.

Bad choice. :-( They should learn from Witcher 2, that's how DA should look. Skyrim story presentaion is extremely poor and immersion with moral choices nearly non-existent. While I loved Witcher 2 I couldn't even finish Skyrim. It's not exactly the same genre as Bioware games, it's more combat-driven and less story driven.

[Melca36]

shadowhawk233 wrote...

FYI Melca36: DA Devs say they're learning from Skyrim, it does not mean that there will be any DA2 DLC from that.

Did you even see may say I want the next game to be like Skyrim???

If you read the last part...some announcements are coming. They have NOT given up on the game.

Have some faith and lose that over blown sense of self entitlement you have.

[Brockololly]

Filament wrote...
And I don't know what it has to do with entitlement, I'm just so sad BioWare has decided to forsake DA2 and all of its fans due to the negative reception it got.

Its not personal, its money. I can't imagine BioWare will make much of a return by making any sizeable DLC for a game like DA2. Because at one level, its stands DA2 sold less than DAO. Thats strike one as the most broad possible audience for DLC is less than before. Then you have people who don't own the game anymore or don't have it installed; people that aren't thinking about a nearly year old game and have moved on to other stuff. Thats strike two. And you have everyone that bought the game but didn't like it for one reason or another and wouldn't be willing to play any DLC, no matter what. There is strike three. Any DLC would be being made for a fraction of a fraction of fraction of an audience. Unless its something that could be made dirt cheap, I have a hard time seeing much coming out.

Point is, at almost a year post launch of a game with a fairly tepid critical and commercial response, its likely not in BioWare's best interest to keep working on it. Move on to something that can hopefully be more successful in the future thats not dependent on owning a game with a lackluster reputation.

All that said, I still think they'll have one last DA2 DLC. To just ditch DA2 at only 2 DLC's would to me seem like admitting the game bombed. If they don't announce anything more about DA2 DLC by the time ME3 comes out or by the end of March, then they might truly be done with it. What with the comic and anime supposedly coming out in February, it would seem stupid to have that stuff come out in a total vacuum without any game product like a DLC to at least raise awareness of the other properties. But then again, its BioWare/EA marketing we're talking about, so..... yeah.

Modifié par Brockololly, 22 janvier 2012 - 01:41 .

[HiroVoid]

Brockololly wrote...

Filament wrote...
And I don't know what it has to do with entitlement, I'm just so sad BioWare has decided to forsake DA2 and all of its fans due to the negative reception it got.

Its not personal, its money. I can't imagine BioWare will make much of a return by making any sizeable DLC for a game like DA2. Because at one level, its stands DA2 sold less than DAO. Thats strike one as the most broad possible audience for DLC is less than before. Then you have people who don't own the game anymore or don't have it installed; people that aren't thinking about a nearly year old game and have moved on to other stuff. Thats strike two. And you have everyone that bought the game but didn't like it for one reason or another and wouldn't be willing to play any DLC, no matter what. There is strike three. Any DLC would be being made for a fraction of a fraction of fraction of an audience. Unless its something that could be made dirt cheap, I have a hard time seeing much coming out.

Point is, at almost a year post launch of a game with a fairly tepid critical and commercial response, its likely not in BioWare's best interest to keep working on it. Move on to something that can hopefully be more successful in the future thats not dependent on owning a game with a lackluster reputation.

All that said, I still think they'll have one last DA2 DLC. To just ditch DA2 at only 2 DLC's would to me seem like admitting the game bombed. If they don't announce anything more about DA2 DLC by the time ME3 comes out or by the end of March, then they might truly be done with it. What with the comic and anime supposedly coming out in February, it would seem stupid to have that stuff come out in a total vacuum without any game product like a DLC to at least raise awareness of the other properties. But then again, its BioWare/EA marketing we're talking about, so..... yeah.

Well, they were probably already working on the anime before DA2 was released because they knew about all the new audience it would bring in, and the comic has Alistair in it to help bring in fans from DAO.

[Melca36]

shadowhawk233 wrote...

Filament and Brockololly have a point, get THAT threw your head Melca36. I already said the worst case scenario and Bioware has already fulfilled their part on it. I don't like it either but this is what's happening... 

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We'll see who is right in the long run. I can't wait to laugh  when they do announce one.

And of course if they eventually come and say they're not doing anymore...feel free to laugh at me.

[Melca36]

Filament wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

If you read the last part...some announcements are coming. They have NOT given up on the game.

Have some faith and lose that over blown sense of self entitlement you have.

It said fans of DAO and Skyrim would be happy with upcoming announcements. If you filled in "DA2 DLC/expansion" in front of announcements, that's in your head only.

And I don't know what it has to do with entitlement, I'm just so sad BioWare has decided to forsake DA2 and all of its fans due to the negative reception it got.

Why contribute to the negativity?   We don't know anything UNTIL THEY TELL US.

Its a waste of time to post false assumptions when you don't know anything at all.

[AzraelDrakken]

Article in Joystiq mag Aug 31 2011 - In closer plans, Laidlaw said that we'll see more of Varric in upcoming DLC for Dragon Age 2, as well as Leliana and Flemeth. Morrigan will be back as well, and BioWare says that the Legacy DLC was received well, so that will be the model for updates in the future.

[devSin]

shadowhawk233 wrote...

Except, there was no further updates in the past 4 months after MOTA was released. Why? Because MOTA got TERRIBLE FEEDBACK!!!! Which possibly forced them to reprioritize and scrap the last two bits of DLC to focus more on DA3.

On the expansion, you mean. Most of the DLC people probably don't have to crunch until much later in the process, so DA3 doesn't necessarily gain anything by them going full-time on it now (imagine John staging conversations while character models, area maps, and the dialogue itself don't yet exist).

Keep in mind that Chris noted a month or two ago that they were still looking at a patch. Now, this doesn't mean they will ever again actually release a patch, but for Chris to say it, it implies that they're doing something (BioWare is historically not really the place where they're going to be doing something like this without more content also coming down the chute). Otherwise, wouldn't Chris just ignore the DA forums as usual, not drop by to say "We are, but no ETA"?

Modifié par devSin, 22 janvier 2012 - 06:33 .

[Tezzajh]

perhaps its to do with the release da3? perhaps they will try to space the dlc out so DA is fresh in our minds. and i really dont belive they will scrap dlc, if you look at mass effect 2 they brought out the comic strip that bridges 1 and 2 togethor out quite late, and i bet they didnt expect to see much of a return from that dlc

[devSin]

That was done for the PS3 version of ME2 (there was never a PS3 version of Mass Effect, so they would never get to play it and build a Shepard to import).

[Tezzajh]

devSin wrote...

That was done for the PS3 version of ME2 (there was never a PS3 version of Mass Effect, so they would never get to play it and build a Shepard to import).

xbox done it as well

[devSin]

What I'm saying is that it was created for the PS3 version of the game, which was only released last January or something.

They made it available later for both Xbox 360 and PC versions of the game, but it was created for and included with the PS3 version (and exclusive to it for a brief time).

This isn't a situation that will have any DA2 analog.

Modifié par devSin, 22 janvier 2012 - 10:19 .

[Ponendus]

MotA got terrible feedback? When did this happen?

Although I think there is some attempt in this thread to use reverse psychology on the debs and to bully them into announcing something (which absolutely won't work I assure you), I understand people are just passionate and want to know. My advice is to relax and wait, this is a waste of time. They will announce when they are ready or they won't. Nothing but time will tell.

[Melca36]

Ponendus wrote...

MotA got terrible feedback? When did this happen?

Although I think there is some attempt in this thread to use reverse psychology on the debs and to bully them into announcing something (which absolutely won't work I assure you), I understand people are just passionate and want to know. My advice is to relax and wait, this is a waste of time. They will announce when they are ready or they won't. Nothing but time will tell.

There were some reviews from magazines who gave the DLC less than stellar reviews when ironically they gave the game better reviews.

The DLC was so much better than the game that it was obvious the magazines got some backlash for their reviews of the game so they were biased in their reviews of the dlc.