Yes but I wouldn't describe that as 'terrible'.
End of The Line for DA2 DLC?
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#277
Posté 22 janvier 2012 - 11:49
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I would think the DLCs for DA2 are over considering DA3 is in development and we are looking at a late 2012 or early 2013 release. I am hopeful that they will release so cross over DLCs like they did for ME2, I really think there is some more story to add to DA2 and a lot of unanswered question. I would just take Bioware a few secs to jump in and say we are working on stuff to quite the rumors but all this conversation does build hype and continued talk about DA2. I want some Jade Empire 2 talk!!!
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Posté 22 janvier 2012 - 11:55
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Eragondragonrider wrote...
I would think the DLCs for DA2 are over considering DA3 is in development and we are looking at a late 2012 or early 2013 release.
Where are you getting that? All I've heard about the DA3 dev cycle was that they would spend more developing it. Late 2012-early 2013 is not a longer dev cycle.
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 12:50
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Reviews for legacy were lame ( okay feedback on the bsn were good ), and that didn't prevent the dlc to sell well. It could be only because of sales, if they decide to change their mind, not feedback. Because those will always be polarized. They can improve from feedback, but that's not what can decide them to stop the dlc. ( there can be other important reasons as well )Melca36 wrote...
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MotA got terrible feedback? When did this happen?
Although I think there is some attempt in this thread to use reverse psychology on the debs and to bully them into announcing something (which absolutely won't work I assure you), I understand people are just passionate and want to know. My advice is to relax and wait, this is a waste of time. They will announce when they are ready or they won't. Nothing but time will tell.
There were some reviews from magazines who gave the DLC less than stellar reviews when ironically they gave the game better reviews.
The DLC was so much better than the game that it was obvious the magazines got some backlash for their reviews of the game so they were biased in their reviews of the dlc.
So when some bitter folks are saying, OMG, that's because of all the negative on this forum, that Bioware won't do a new DLC, that makes me laugh. Obviously, if sales are good, they don't care about how negative this forum can be.
Also, I hope they won't decide to work too late on DA3 ! Screw DA2 dlc, if you need to build a game in a few years. It would be foolish to do the same mistake.
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 12:56
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Screw DA2 DLC? That's real Assuring Sylvianus....
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 12:58
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A lot of the information out there is saying it will be round this time. Most game cycles with EA are 1-2 years with series look at ME2-ME3 and DA:O to DA:2 about 2 year game cycles.BrotherWarth wrote...
Eragondragonrider wrote...
I would think the DLCs for DA2 are over considering DA3 is in development and we are looking at a late 2012 or early 2013 release.
Where are you getting that? All I've heard about the DA3 dev cycle was that they would spend more developing it. Late 2012-early 2013 is not a longer dev cycle.
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 01:05
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Last time i checked was that Dark Horse Comics will release four embroidered patches and a deck of playing cards for Dragon Age II, on May 30 this year. Not anything Related to DA2 DLC... <_<
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 01:13
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Screw DA2 DLC? That's real Assuring Sylvianus....
What I meant is that if they want to do new dlcs, okay, do it and no problem. But it would become an issue, if they do it at the detriment of DA3's development time. We still don't know how they would work on the next game.Also, I hope they won't decide to work too late on DA3 ! Screw DA2 dlc, if you need to build a game in a few years. It would be foolish to do the same mistake.
What do you prefer in this case ? A dlc, that you can forget, with all the games out there ? Or a very good sequel ? I already did my choice. xD
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 01:23
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Sylvianus wrote...
So when some bitter folks are saying, OMG, that's because of all the negative on this forum, that Bioware won't do a new DLC, that makes me laugh. Obviously, if sales are good, they don't care about how negative this forum can be.
That is not my argument. I am not disputing that the decision to do DLC is based on a great number of things. I am saying that the decision to discuss upcoming projects is based on a desire to communicate with the fanbase. Regardless of what you think, the developers have stated several times here and constantly on their twitter feeds that they are under no obligation to communicate with us here on the forums and they are all backing off the forums due to the negativity. I don't blame them.
I would also point out that the only people in this thread who are 'bitter' are those that are childishly jumping up and down and trying to make BioWare 'feel bad' about not announcing anything. I am not bitter about anything, the behaviour on these forums quite perfectly lives up to my expectations of the internet.
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 01:39
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@ Ponendus
I do not know why you felt my comment referred to you, I didn't give any name and there are 12 pages in this topic, more than 200 posts, but do not worry, I didn't think about your post at all. And it isn't the first thread where I see such comments.
It's been a while since I read this kind of myth, where people believe that because of negative opinions on this forum, Bioware may decide not to produce DLC anyways.
Bioware is aware that there are also those who love DA2 and many folks who are expecting dlc, even they scream about that. If they decide not to make dlc, it would be only because of strategic considerations, business, which have nothing to do with the negative opinions of this forum.
So why they wouldn't want to build new dlcs because of those who already didn't like the " main game ' ? That doesn't make sense at all. Dlcs are for those who liked the main game. They are those that buy that stuff.
So, again, if they decide to stop the dlc, it wouldn't be because of those who didn't like DA2. Either, sales or other strategic reasons.
I do not know why you felt my comment referred to you, I didn't give any name and there are 12 pages in this topic, more than 200 posts, but do not worry, I didn't think about your post at all. And it isn't the first thread where I see such comments.
It's been a while since I read this kind of myth, where people believe that because of negative opinions on this forum, Bioware may decide not to produce DLC anyways.
Bioware is aware that there are also those who love DA2 and many folks who are expecting dlc, even they scream about that. If they decide not to make dlc, it would be only because of strategic considerations, business, which have nothing to do with the negative opinions of this forum.
I don't blame them either. If they don't want to discuss anymore with their fans, more power to them. I can understand that.But obviously, that doesn't justify why they would scrap DA2 dlc, since that everything that is negative comes from those who didn't like DA2.Regardless of what you think, the developers have stated several times here and constantly on their twitter feeds that they are under no obligation to communicate with us here on the forums and they are all backing off the forums due to the negativity. I don't blame them.
So why they wouldn't want to build new dlcs because of those who already didn't like the " main game ' ? That doesn't make sense at all. Dlcs are for those who liked the main game. They are those that buy that stuff.
So, again, if they decide to stop the dlc, it wouldn't be because of those who didn't like DA2. Either, sales or other strategic reasons.
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 01:58
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I thought you were referring to me because you quoted me in your post.
I already stated I agreed with everything there, BioWare would not make a DLC based on the negativity of forums, you are correct. However we will not know because they won't come here anymore and talk to us about it. I simply think this thread (or at least some of the posts in it) is an example of why.
I already stated I agreed with everything there, BioWare would not make a DLC based on the negativity of forums, you are correct. However we will not know because they won't come here anymore and talk to us about it. I simply think this thread (or at least some of the posts in it) is an example of why.
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 02:03
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like Brockololly said, It's not personal, its money. I can't imagine BioWare will make much of a return by making any sizeable DLC for a game like DA2. Because at one level, its stands DA2 sold less than DAO. Thats strike one as the most broad possible audience for DLC is less than before. Then you have people who don't own the game anymore or don't have it installed; people that aren't thinking about a nearly year old game and have moved on to other stuff. Thats strike two. And you have everyone that bought the game but didn't like it for one reason or another and wouldn't be willing to play any DLC, no matter what. There is strike three. Any DLC would be being made for a fraction of a fraction of fraction of an audience. Unless its something that could be made dirt cheap, I have a hard time seeing much coming out.
Point is, at almost a year post launch of a game with a fairly tepid critical and commercial response, its likely not in BioWare's best interest to keep working on it. Move on to something that can hopefully be more successful in the future thats not dependent on owning a game with a lackluster reputation.
All that said, to just ditch DA2 at only 2 DLC's would to me seem like admitting the game bombed. If they don't announce anything more about DA2 DLC by the time ME3 comes out or by the end of March, then they might truly be done with it. What with the comic and anime supposedly coming out in February, it would seem stupid to have that stuff come out in a total vacuum without any game product like a DLC to at least raise awareness of the other properties. But then again, its BioWare/EA marketing we're talking about, so..... yeah.
Point is, at almost a year post launch of a game with a fairly tepid critical and commercial response, its likely not in BioWare's best interest to keep working on it. Move on to something that can hopefully be more successful in the future thats not dependent on owning a game with a lackluster reputation.
All that said, to just ditch DA2 at only 2 DLC's would to me seem like admitting the game bombed. If they don't announce anything more about DA2 DLC by the time ME3 comes out or by the end of March, then they might truly be done with it. What with the comic and anime supposedly coming out in February, it would seem stupid to have that stuff come out in a total vacuum without any game product like a DLC to at least raise awareness of the other properties. But then again, its BioWare/EA marketing we're talking about, so..... yeah.
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 02:08
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shadowhawk233 wrote...
Point is, at almost a year post launch of a game with a fairly tepid critical and commercial response, its likely not in BioWare's best interest to keep working on it. Move on to something that can hopefully be more successful in the future thats not dependent on owning a game with a lackluster reputation.
Unless it is a segue into DA3? Similar to what Arrival was for ME3. Using a DLC or multiple DLCs to build up hype for the next major installment is something they have done in the past.
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If they don't announce anything more about DA2 DLC by the time ME3 comes out or by the end of March, then they might truly be done with it.
I completely disagree with this. In fact I expect that we won't hear anything until beyond then for the reason stated above. Once ME3 is out of the way, DLC and books and magazines and interviews and everything else will be available to BioWare to ramp up the interest in DA3. I suspect that is when DA's time in the spotlight will come around again.
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 02:13
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@ Ponendus Actually, I just wanted to answer to Melca, about reviews and negativity implied, so I quoted what I read regardless of what you wrote, which wasn't concerned by my words, and good to read by the way. 
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 02:14
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Sylvianus wrote...
@ Ponendus Actually, I wanted to answer to Melca, about reviews and negativity implied, so I quoted what I read regardless of what you wrote, which wasn't concerned by my words, and good to read by the way.
I understand. My apologies.
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 02:37
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Eragondragonrider wrote...
A lot of the information out there is saying it will be round this time. Most game cycles with EA are 1-2 years with series look at ME2-ME3 and DA:O to DA:2 about 2 year game cycles.BrotherWarth wrote...
Eragondragonrider wrote...
I would think the DLCs for DA2 are over considering DA3 is in development and we are looking at a late 2012 or early 2013 release.
Where are you getting that? All I've heard about the DA3 dev cycle was that they would spend more developing it. Late 2012-early 2013 is not a longer dev cycle.
I'm asking for that information.
And ME3 has a nearly 3 year development cycle, while DAO had a nearly 5 year dev cycle. They'll take longer to development the games if they want to. They just chose not to with DA2.
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 02:36
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I don't recall the devs saying anything about an increased development cycle for DA3. As far as I know, they've yet to officially announce development at all. This is ALL guesswork on our part.
Of course logic does dictate that they'd take a little more time with development this time around (if for no reason but to stave off negative press about "rushing".) Regardless, they haven't said anything either way yet.
Of course logic does dictate that they'd take a little more time with development this time around (if for no reason but to stave off negative press about "rushing".) Regardless, they haven't said anything either way yet.
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 03:00
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Mike Laidlaw said this yesterday on twitter.
"Mike_Laidlaw Mike Laidlaw
Also, those of you enduring non-DA tweets waiting for the good stuff? I promise it will all be worth it one day. "
That's kind of Dragon Age-y... sort of.
"Mike_Laidlaw Mike Laidlaw
Also, those of you enduring non-DA tweets waiting for the good stuff? I promise it will all be worth it one day. "
That's kind of Dragon Age-y... sort of.
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 03:19
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Mike Laidlaw said this yesterday on twitter.
"Mike_Laidlaw Mike Laidlaw
Also, those of you enduring non-DA tweets waiting for the good stuff? I promise it will all be worth it one day. "
That's kind of Dragon Age-y... sort of.
Yeah, they've promised "awesome new Dragon Age stuff" before, got us all excited and then it turns out to be some non-game related stuff no-one cares about.
That tweet means absolutely nothing! And why did Mike not leave that comment here? Isn't this the Dragon Age community?
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 03:49
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It also means nothing because "One Day" is so vague it verges on silly. It can apply to everything
I can say with absolute certainty (a Promise!) that there will be no more DA content...one day
I can say with absolute certainty (a Promise!) that there will be no more DA content...one day
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 03:53
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It also means nothing because "One Day" is so vague it verges on silly. It can apply to everything
I can say with absolute certainty (a Promise!) that the DA franchise will eventually be scrapped.... one day
NO! The DA franchise will endure through the ages, with the cooling pulsars of dying suns and galaxies coallescing into one magnificent, glorious Awesome Button.
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 04:00
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Awesome! I look forward to that one day. I'll re-create Metacritic and be the first to write a review for readers in the 12th dimension!
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 04:11
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In the 12th dimension, Metacritic reads YOU!
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 05:32
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Dragon Age 2 ? What is this game you speak of?
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 05:37
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Dubya75 wrote...
PurebredCorn wrote...
Mike Laidlaw said this yesterday on twitter.
"Mike_Laidlaw Mike Laidlaw
Also, those of you enduring non-DA tweets waiting for the good stuff? I promise it will all be worth it one day. "
That's kind of Dragon Age-y... sort of.
Yeah, they've promised "awesome new Dragon Age stuff" before, got us all excited and then it turns out to be some non-game related stuff no-one cares about.
That tweet means absolutely nothing! And why did Mike not leave that comment here? Isn't this the Dragon Age community?
No, this is the 'community' that just insults and ****es about anything Bioware do, didn't you know?
