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[Atakuma]

DA2 proved that Bioware don't give a damn about player agency.

[Yrkoon]

HiroVoid wrote...

If it comes down to it, is it David Gaider's call though? That seems something someone more up top would get to make the call on that.

David Gaider is the creater of the entire Dragon age universe.  He wrote the books.  He  created   the setting from scratch.  The Higher ups can probably decide what  gets cut from a  Dragon age game and what doesn't.  But I don't think they have the power to actually create their own  Thedas  canon without his approval.   And for what it's worth, Gaider did say  (a couple of times) that Morrigan is  a critical character in Dragon Age, and that we have not seen the last of her.


Personally I don't see the problem  with her return.    It doesn't need to involve Grey Wardens or  Old God Babies, or  Dark rituals.  Morrigan is tied to Flemeth.  And since she is, there's nothing (plot wise)  stopping Bioware  from moving forward with that aspect of her lore. 

Modifié par Yrkoon, 17 janvier 2012 - 05:55 .

[SkittlesKat96]

I think its pretty positive that she will return in another Dragon Age game but chances are she will look a bit different, whether because of the art style or because they will redesign her like what they did with Flemeth.

I wish they could have came up with an explanation of why Flemeth looks different now but its no big deal I guess.

Modifié par SkittlesKat96, 17 janvier 2012 - 06:24 .

[TEWR]

SkittlesKat96 wrote...

I think its pretty positive that she will return in another Dragon Age game but chances are she will look a bit different, whether because of the art style or because they will redesign her like what they did with Flemeth.

I wish they could have came up with an explanation of why Flemeth looks different now but its no big deal I guess.

Well, Flemeth is a shapeshifter, being the one that taught that school of magic to Morrigan. And she's also something that isn't mortal and thus isn't bound by the rules mortals have to adhere to.

[Mclouvins]

SkittlesKat96 wrote...

I think its pretty positive that she will return in another Dragon Age game but chances are she will look a bit different, whether because of the art style or because they will redesign her like what they did with Flemeth.

I wish they could have came up with an explanation of why Flemeth looks different now but its no big deal I guess.

Well Flemeth could be due in part to the art change but also she played the crazy old woman card in DAO, in DA2 she already showed herself to be a dragon and had no reason to disguise herself.

As far as Morrigan is concerned I don't think there's too much question that she will look/dress somewhat different, she is at least 10 years older now after all.

[SkittlesKat96]

Mclouvins wrote...

SkittlesKat96 wrote...

I think its pretty positive that she will return in another Dragon Age game but chances are she will look a bit different, whether because of the art style or because they will redesign her like what they did with Flemeth.

I wish they could have came up with an explanation of why Flemeth looks different now but its no big deal I guess.

Well Flemeth could be due in part to the art change but also she played the crazy old woman card in DAO, in DA2 she already showed herself to be a dragon and had no reason to disguise herself.

As far as Morrigan is concerned I don't think there's too much question that she will look/dress somewhat different, she is at least 10 years older now after all.

Yeah I'm definitely expecting her to have different clothes and maybe even a different hair style, its mostly just her facial features and what she is wearing that I'm a little worried about. Bioware does a pretty good job at character designs (barring some of the weird elves and how Alistair, Zevran and Teagan look a little bit off in DA 2, moreso Zevran :'( )

EDIT: An example of good character design imo is Hawke, I know a lot of people hate him and hate how they had to make a voiced protagonist but you have to respect the effort that is put into voiced protagonists in games. I know its their job and all but there are a lot of voiced protagonists like Adam Jensen and Hawke being two recent examples that I think are pretty well made.

I'm not saying whether I think Bioware's use of voiced protagonists is good or bad but its obviously here to stay so I hope they don't suddenly lose their step with what they are doing.

Modifié par SkittlesKat96, 17 janvier 2012 - 09:19 .

[Fast Jimmy]

Anyone taking into consideration that she could have put on some extra weight?

I mean, it has been now ten years in the game world and she has had a kid. If she was 25 in DAO, she's now 35. Anyone who has gone to a 10 year class reunion can tell you ten years and kids can do a lot to someone's appearance.

I mean, Allistair likely now has at least some crow's feet from his ten years of being a king. Look how much a president ages in just the four years they are in office... now imagine that but ten years, dealing with the Blight recovery and (possibly) dealing with constant family politcs between Anora and daddy Loghain.

None of these characters should look like they did in DAO, in my opinion. Except maybe Ogrhen. That beard covers most features pretty nicely. Although he could be gray now instead of his normal red beard.

[Yrkoon]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Anyone taking into consideration that she could have put on some extra weight?

I mean, it has been now ten years in the game world and she has had a kid. If she was 25 in DAO, she's now 35. Anyone who has gone to a 10 year class reunion can tell you ten years and kids can do a lot to someone's appearance.

Probably.   But the devs even covered their asses on that one  'just in case'.  Last we saw of Morrigan, she was  walking through a portal which took her to.... who knows.  An alternate place?  Somewhere  where time  moves at a different speed?  A place where one doesn't need to eat for sustainence? 

That, and she's a shapeshifter  too.  There's no reason she can't hone her skills enough to shapeshift into  (or take the body of) someone younger than the  person  we knew from 10 years ago.   That's  how Mom survived the new art direction.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 17 janvier 2012 - 02:53 .

[Lasien]

Yrkoon wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Anyone taking into consideration that she could have put on some extra weight?

I mean, it has been now ten years in the game world and she has had a kid. If she was 25 in DAO, she's now 35. Anyone who has gone to a 10 year class reunion can tell you ten years and kids can do a lot to someone's appearance.

Probably.   But the devs even covered their asses on that one  'just in case'.  Last we saw of Morrigan, she was  walking through a portal which took her to.... who knows.  An alternate place?  Somewhere  where time  moves at a different speed?  A place where one doesn't need to eat for sustainence? 

That, and she's a shapeshifter  too.  There's no reason she can't hone her skills enough to shapeshift into  (or take the body of) someone younger than the  person  we knew from 10 years ago.   That's  how Mom survived the new art direction.

So... teenage Morrigan and old god baby?

[Darth Death]

My warden offered to pay child support, but morrigan refused.

Seriously though, I want to see her and my baby!

[Chaia]

x0hn0th3r4nc0rx wrote...

The books follow their own canon. And as for Morrigan and her son, I'm going to leave this here...

True I forgot that at the time, my bad , but still the devs have brought back a few characters in game they consider important I wouldn't be suprised if they do it again, and I can easily see how they can make Morrigan survive WH if they wanted too, she is a powerful witch after all.

As for the God Baby, like HiroVoid said, whilst Gaider may think forcing her son upon the player to be pretty "lame" would someone else who makes the final call think so too, leaving a potentially important character to a waste of disk space for some players. Then again they've done it before, you could easily miss Leliana and Sten in DAO (in fact I did miss Sten, had to reload a save on my first run through to get him), I didn't really talk to Isabella much in DAO, and nearly missed her in DA2 like so many others, they are all main characters, they could easily do something similer again with the God Baby in DA3 etc etc.

[Fenton]

DA 3 I think will have Morrigan. I think HOWEVER her kid will be VERY Important. Remember the kid is 10 years old in DA 2. So if it goes by another 10 years than DA 3 the kid will be 20. So basically what I am saying is that Morrigan will play an important role HOWEVER the kid will play an much more important role. If Morrigan is in the game so is the God baby/kid/adult.

[Yrkoon]

Yeah, but if we're looking at a 20 year old OGB then chances are, we'll also be looking at a Morrigan who's well into her 40s, unless, again, the Eluvian portal does wonky things with time.

Of course, they could keep Morrigan young and make her diabolically evil in order to take care of the Old God Baby issue. We could, for example, meet her in the next game and learn that she decided to EAT the boy and absorb his essense so now she's got the Old God Soul. LOL but that just sounds silly.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 18 janvier 2012 - 11:03 .

[Todd23]

I'm pritty sure we'll see her in DA3. Considdering the picture of her in front of a burning barn.

[Winged Silver]

This might sound kind of stupid, but I would just kind of adore it if the DA3 protagonist was like "So...you have a kid? Where is he?" and Morrigan just went, "The Warden is taking care of him."

On another note...I was actually ok with the Witchhunter DLC provided that they either leave it alone, or find a way to make it reasonably matter in DA3. I know a lot of people were unhappy in how it didn't answer any questions really, but I thought it was a great set-up for what might be to come in DA3 (I played WH after finishing Dragon Age 2).

Who's to say Flemeth won't go crazy while the Mage are fighting the templars, take over, and then leave the players like "Wait THAT'S the main problem here? Well...can't say we weren't warned or anything but I really thought we'd be working with just the whole mage-templar bucket of worms thing". This then allows Morrigan to swoop in, and...I don't know. Do something.

Not really sure how this will work but the devs have mentioned maybe seeing your Warden or Hawke or something like that make an appearance in DA3...I could deal with seeing my Warden maybe giving Alistair a kiss on the cheek before he comes over to talk a quest, but it'd be strange never-the-less. So this may apply to anyone who romanced Morrigan in DAO.

Like many of the people before, if it's handled nicely, I wouldn't mind seeing Morrigan again. Otherwise, let it rest.

[capt.krappy]

You guys have got to be kidding me. First: Origins was the vastly superior game BECAUSE of the interactions with the warden and the "party" (including DOG, which EA messed up completely). To NOT realize that THAT is what is/was wrong with DA-2 and NOT fix (bring back in the STORIES of the characters and interactions is what made the game GREAT).....is why BW is taking so long. They will bring back Morrigan and Lelianna. My only hope is that they bring back my DOG !!!, lol.

[2Pac]

This would be a good idea. But people who don't persue a romance won't even Acknowledge her Existance. So, I really don't think she should be in the game..

Modifié par alliance commander, 12 juin 2013 - 03:46 .

[Angrywolves]

Yes Origins was vastly superior.
As for Morrigan she's not the face of the franchise. They just chose her, I think because it was easy and Claudia Black is popular.
I don't expect Morrigan or Leliana to be party members in DAI, more likely they will be npcs.

[AutumnWitch]

I don't post here very much but I am a huge DA fan and a writer and also have pretty good nose for sniffing out plots. Morrigan is essential to DA world and its fortune hinges on her, her child, Flemeth and Sandal.

Modifié par AutumnWitch, 12 juin 2013 - 10:21 .

[Kakashi1205]

Oh seen the teaser: Morrigan is Back! and looks more or less the same as in DAO. To all the people yapping about how THEIR stories are. Gaider made his story and the player can play either Gaiders story through DAO and DA2 but can also make their own versions of it but Gaider is Canon and he said multiple times: Morrigan and Flemeth are coming back. so there.

[Zetheria Tabris]

HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

Of course not,she was a companion in DA1 who's story ended in her DLC.only reason she is important in the story is becouse she warned you about Flemeth.And i beleve Flemeth will have a great part in DA3 story.Maybe we will hear something about her or her child.But you did have the option to kill her,so it wlod not make sense if she appeared in DA3.

There's an option to kill Leliana as well, and she returned in DA2, right? I think even if the player chose the option to kill Morrigan in Witch Hunt, that can easily be explained. It may not have been a fatal wound. She could have healed herself.