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How Does Your Morality Affect Your P/R Orientation?

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 01:38

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 I wasn't really sure how to title this, so I guess that'll have to do unless I come up with something better.


Relatively simple. How does your personal life/feelings about life/belief affect your place on the Paragon vs. Renegade scale. I'll provide an example by going first:

I didn't have the best childhood. It wasn't bad physically, but mentally it just about destroyed me: I still struggle with it today. Only through the truly unconditional care of a few people I know did I turn out not to be a psychopath (that isn't exaggeration; I'm quite serious). As a result, I don't want to choose things that cause hurt to people when there are other options available (things like killing the colonists on Feros or Shiala). I value life, and wish to preserve it whenever possible.

What about you?


(In a sense, I'm wondering what compels people to make their choices on the scale)

Modifié par EternalAmbiguity, 10 janvier 2012 - 01:39 .

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OmegaBlue0231
Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 01:39

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It effects it a lot. I'm mostly paragon, but a some renegade choices here and there don't hurt.

(I'm usually always chaotic neutral in RPGs)

Modifié par OmegaBlue0231, 10 janvier 2012 - 01:40 .

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 01:42

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Oddly enough a lot for me I want to try to do a renegade playthrough but I can't because of my morals but I do some renegade things that aren't affected by my morals (such as pushing a person out of a window)

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 01:43

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I used to follow my own morals (usually very much aligned with Paragon choices minus one or two of course) but then bioware linked social checks to paragon and renegade points...so now I have to metagame it....Than You Bioware

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Bekkael
Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 01:45

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I often choose things in my "canon" playthrough that reflect my own morality and feelings. But in subsequent playthroughs, I sometimes like to shed the shell of me, and try to get inside the head of someone very different from myself and explore why their morality and motivations might be very different from my own.

At times, roleplaying "evil" or less sympathetic characters gives me a chance to sneak a peek into why seemingly nice or good people can make bad choices. Or even more strange: how good can become evil to such a character and evil can seem justified or good.

/rambling post

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AgitatedLemon
Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 01:46

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In terms of your "everyday" decisions (Slave Broker, Quarian on the citadel, Samesh Bhatia), I go paragon.

Video game or not, I feel better helping people.

When it comes to the major, game changing decisions (CB, Virmire, etc), I'll run them through logically, but if possible, I'll pick paragon. Contrary to popular belief, it's possible to make the tactically smart decisions without forsaking morals.

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Aaleel
Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 01:46

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They do on my canon male and female Shepards.  Other games I may roleplay a no holds barred, pro human Shepard.  Even then you feel like crap after some decisions lol.

Really the only decision that has been the same in every game regardless of the type of Shepard I play is the genophage, every Shepard is for ending that mess.

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Annihilator27
Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 01:48

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In terms of everyday,Im a good hearted person.But I love philosophy and the end justifies the means.Im starting to get more Renegad in the game.Mind over matter too.

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GrandTurian
Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 01:50

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I can separate my own morality from most of my playthroughs. When I go through KOTOR or ME I generally have no problem running either light/paragon or dark/renegade playthroughs. However, my next ME playthrough before ME3 will make all the choices that I would make if I were Shepard, so that'll be really interesting.

The only example I can think of that didnt change based on playthrough was in KOTOR 2 all the dialogue with the Mandalorian Wars. I always defended the reasoning for that war no matter what dialogue I was "supposed" to say.

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Dr Death DST
Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 01:52

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I don't want to get banned for being offensive but let's just say that my feelings that humans should dominate the galaxy are closely related to some of my real world feelings. Although the Krogans will always have a special spot and are guaranteed a fair shake when Shepard starts kicking ass.

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DiebytheSword
Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 01:53

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My own personal code definately affects my canon playthrough and playthroughs were I'm playing a character mostly like me. If I deviate from that, it may be uncomfortable to play opposite of my ideals, but I can do it.

I personally believe in individualism and taking responsibility for your actions, those things form the first thought when I come to a situation and analyze the possibilities. I am also heavily of the mindset that honor, valor and character are underrated, so I lean towards that as a second set of criteria.

What is worth doing if it is not worth doing right and well? I believe in the power of possibility, that if I don't see an obvious solution it is because I have not looked hard enough for an answer. For these reasons I very rarely give up.

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 01:54

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My personal life did only influence my first Mass Effect playthrough (where I basically roleplayed as myself).

I have no problem with assuming a role and play it, even if it goes directly against my own morals in real-life.

I tend to be more "Paragon" in real-life, but I can still greatly enjoy playing Renegade in Mass Effect. In fact, I actually enjoy it more. Video-games give us the chance to be persons that we cannot be in real-life. I would never be able to be a ruthless bastard in real-life, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy being one in a video-game.

That said, my first playthrough was mostly Paragon, since, as I said, I'm more of a "Paragon" in real-life. However, I'm by no means heroic and I do value my own life above everyone elses. If I get the choice in real-life to either sacrifice myself or someone else, I'd pick "someone else", unless that "someone else" is someone I love very much (such as my brother, my mother or my father).

So I'm a Paragon, but I still have a strong sense of self-worth. I would never sacrifice myself for someone else if it didn't serve a greater purpose. That's also how I roleplayed my first Shepard.

I ended up being Paragon, but I sacrificed the Council and I didn't mind working with Cerberus. In the end, I kept the Collector base. I'm not going put my own ass (and that of the rest of the galaxy) in the line for some petty morals. If TIM thinks he can actually use the Collector base against the reapers, I'm damn well willing to take that risk.

Modifié par Luc0s, 10 janvier 2012 - 01:55 .

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 01:55

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Dr Death DST wrote...

I don't want to get banned for being offensive but let's just say that my feelings that humans should dominate the galaxy are closely related to some of my real world feelings.

I wouldn't worry; most bans that get handed out are for replying to troll threads or the like, not for actually being rude or offensive.
Not that I would know...:whistle:

Modifié par Shub-Niggurath64, 10 janvier 2012 - 01:58 .

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Landers03
Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 01:56

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Bekkael wrote...

I often choose things in my "canon" playthrough that reflect my own morality and feelings. But in subsequent playthroughs, I sometimes like to shed the shell of me, and try to get inside the head of someone very different from myself and explore why their morality and motivations might be very different from my own.

At times, roleplaying "evil" or less sympathetic characters gives me a chance to sneak a peek into why seemingly nice or good people can make bad choices. Or even more strange: how good can become evil to such a character and evil can seem justified or good.

/rambling post


This. Exactly. 

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AlexXIV
Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 01:57

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Actually I have no idea why I am not a psychopath. I should be one considering all and everything.

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 02:01

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As I've gotten older I go almost exclusively good in RPGs. Out of 9 ME2 playthroughs, I played 1 renegade file(because I felt like I needed one obligatory renagade file). All my others were paragon. I don't know if my life has influenced this or not.

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 02:04

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personaly in RL I was born in a country at war, my dad was a P.O.W. and the exp. has taught me much. I play mostly Paragon but have some Renegade actions. If I can finish a job with minimal KIA or colateral damage I will, this is prevelent during zaeed's loyalty mission, never sacrifice civilians that is a general rule for me, knowing the cost of non combatant deaths and how it can eat you from the inside out. I have a friend whose father served in the Croatian military during the Balkan war as a sniper. he refused to evan kill his enemy incapacitating there legs. on the renegade aspect I will almost always kill the girl that pulls a shotgun on me on Illium as any person would shoot at a person weilding a powerful weapon at them.

Life has taught me to be more compasionate I guess.

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Bekkael
Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 02:06

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Shub-Niggurath64 wrote...

Dr Death DST wrote...

I don't want to get banned for being offensive but let's just say that my feelings that humans should dominate the galaxy are closely related to some of my real world feelings.

I wouldn't worry; most bans that get handed out are for replying to troll threads or the like, not for actually being rude or offensive.
Not that I would know...:whistle:


Why am I surprised you're banned again? :P

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Shub-Niggurath64
Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 02:08

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Bekkael wrote...

Shub-Niggurath64 wrote...

Dr Death DST wrote...

I don't want to get banned for being offensive but let's just say that my feelings that humans should dominate the galaxy are closely related to some of my real world feelings.

I wouldn't worry; most bans that get handed out are for replying to troll threads or the like, not for actually being rude or offensive.
Not that I would know...:whistle:


Why am I surprised you're banned again? :P

I don't even know what it was for this time, either. Woo just said "spamming", and I have no idea what he was referring to. May have been my gmag-speak.

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The Spamming Troll
Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 02:09

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ive played ME1 and ME2 easily over 50 times.

ive only played renegade once.

basically i dont care for exactly half of what the game fully offers.

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Bobrzy
Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 02:14

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I always play similar to my personal feelings. I feel comfortable helping innocent, fighting for equality and protecting peace, but when it comes to dealing with criminals or villains i just kill all i can (let's just say Harkin is lucky it was "Garrus" talking to him). I am also capable of sacrificing people for a greater good, which usually ends in gaining renegade points.

In ME1 my paragon bar was longer, in ME2 my renegade bar was almost full (looks like there was more bad guys in the second one)

I simply love being able to judge fictional characters according to my own moral code. I even killed off Zaeed during suicide mission, because i hate this mofo.

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 02:18

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Interesting topic, I gotta say...

Without going too deep into events in my life (because no one honestly wants to read that, methinks), I'm a strong advocate of never giving up hope no matter the difficulty. I'm also the "help others the best you can" type, and a firm believer of karma. Every single one of my playthroughs has been Paragon, I just can't find it in me to be a Renegade no matter the character.

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Volus Warlord
Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 02:20

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Me?

Moral Background: Conservative Christian (family first, money is an unavoidable means to an end, people are born evil but can choose to be good, punishment is sometimes required to make people see the error of their ways, if nothing else carry your own weight, who and what you are is ultimately your own decision)

Life Experience: Prefer not to disclose. This thread is turning into a measuring contest. I'll have no part in that.

Gameplay: Renegade

Do these connect? Eh..

I've always seen myself as more of a villain type. Brainy, solitary, task-oriented, cold-hearted. All attributes of the stereotypical villain. So I figure eh.

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 02:22

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i like helping others too. so all of my play threws have been except for one. and i only did it once because i wanted the different conversations.

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LuluMae
Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 02:23

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I used to always make decisions based on what I myself would do- my very first Shepard was done this way, she was a paragon with just a dash of renegade, but I never imported her into ME2. Now I hardly ever do it, I think it's more fun to think outside my own viewpoint in games. Sometimes I'll decide to make a character that is purely paragon or renegade. For my favorite characters I'll make up a personality for them and make decisions based on their motivations and beliefs. I've even had a character I created in order to get a certain outcome develop in such a way that I ended up with the complete opposite outcome of what I had intended.

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