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[Bekkael]

didymos1120 wrote...

It'd be amusing to play a Shep who approaches every situation by thinking "What is most likely to result in sh*t blowing up here?"

I have read a story about a Shepard that did exactly that. And she also got into fist fights at every possible opportunity as a way to relax and blow off steam.

[AlexXIV]

Saphra Deden wrote...
[*]I only read this after having played ME a few times and it was after this that I started really diving into the Renegade side of things. Before that my character was much more Paragon.

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.

[Reptilian Rob]

DiebytheSword wrote...

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

CROAT_56 wrote...

personaly in RL I was born in a country at war, my dad was a P.O.W. and the exp. has taught me much. I play mostly Paragon but have some Renegade actions. If I can finish a job with minimal KIA or colateral damage I will, this is prevelent during zaeed's loyalty mission, never sacrifice civilians that is a general rule for me, knowing the cost of non combatant deaths and how it can eat you from the inside out. I have a friend whose father served in the Croatian military during the Balkan war as a sniper. he refused to evan kill his enemy incapacitating there legs. on the renegade aspect I will almost always kill the girl that pulls a shotgun on me on Illium as any person would shoot at a person weilding a powerful weapon at them.

Life has taught me to be more compasionate I guess.

Same here. I value human life, especially innocents, highly.

It is inherently that most Humans do NOT value other Human's lives, thus why it is ingrained in most people's minds that Renegade is a "cooler" choice. 

Unless those humans are part of your social unit, correct, IMO.

I never implied that I was better than anyone else, no one is better than anyone because we are pretty much all genetically similar. Thus we ALL suffer from the same inherent flaws.

I don't believe I implied that you did.  I only say that humans in general will not value another's life unless they count that life as part of their social group.

I also agree that perfection is laughably unatainable by any one human.

Sorry, misread your post. I'm really tiered, been writing all day, then went to class and I'm exhausted. Excuse my stupidity. 

[AlexXIV]

Saphra Deden wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.

"It is better to live in contradiction than to decay righteously."

"Attention to health is life's greatest hindrance."

[AlexXIV]

Saphra Deden wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Bolded #1: I'm not superstitious, though.

#2. "Humanity's better qualities?" Good one.

I didn't say you were superstitious, only that the quote you like is used to sway people who are.

"Don't kill him, you'll be just like him!"

Humanity's ability to think rationally is one of its better qualities. We can ignore primitive instincts when we want to. Our drive to survive no matter the cost has granted us dominion over this planet and could someday grant us dominion over the solar system.

Yet it is not our drive to survive what makes us different from animals. It is our ability to sacrifice for something that is greater than just you yourself. Mind you survival may be what made us lords of our world, but it is not everything we are about.

[AlexXIV]

Saphra Deden wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.

"It is better to live in contradiction than to decay righteously."

"Attention to health is life's greatest hindrance."

So would you rather the species die out or what?

I don't think my ideals are more important than the survival of the species. Certainly there are ideals worth dying for, but only because those ideals enhance society and will live on without you. This is not the case in a battle with extinction.

There is no imminent threat to our species aside from the Reapers in ME.

[Homey C-Dawg]

My canon playthrough (which is my first, blind playthrough) is always guided by my own morality and ethics. Next two playthroughs are full paragon/renegade, and then on subsequent playthroughs I create a personality and RP it or just mix it up to hear every bit of dialog.

[Unpleasant Implications]

I've been unable to feel actual emotion ever since a horrible mentally scarring incident happened to me several years ago. So in my playthroughs, I always pick choices that will ensure long term stability. Meaning most of the time I'll kill characters who I'm able to, such as Balak, Aresh, and the Rachni. I take up Turian doctrine by ensuring whatever was a threat now won't be in the future, I suppose.

[Medhia Nox]

So... you're saying that you're a slave to instinct Saphra - as you say, animals also sacrifice for the survival of their species.

Or... is it your willingness to sacrifice others for your "greater good" that makes you uniquely human?

[AlexXIV]

Saphra Deden wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

There is no imminent threat to our species aside from the Reapers in ME.

They don't always need to be imminent.

At the very least are you agreeing that humanity should fight for survival at any cost against such a tremendous threat?

At any rate we've got the salarians, the asari, the turians, the geth, the batarians, possibly the rachni, the krogan, and probably others all out for their own gain at our expense if necessary.

If humans aren't human first then nobody will be human first.

'Human' is a term to discribe a certain group of people. Just like 'white people' or 'black people'. At some point we noticed that, despite differences, different human races are not so different. And some point we notice that aliens are not so 'alien'. Because in some way all life is the same. Living is not about survival. Because we all die at some point. If we don't leave something behind that is greater than we were in our life then our life is wasted anyway.

I would fight for humanity's survival just like I did for the Rachni. I don't want to see anyone die or disappear. Just because I am pro-alien doesn't mean I am anti human. Because we humans are also aliens. To someone.

[Silver77nz]

I really do think who you were in the past, who you are now plays a part in how you play the game. I've had a rocky past and I know for sure that has influenced a lot of my actions. I tend to lean towards paragon because I don't like hurting others. It's really hard for me also when I must choose someone to die. I don't undestand how people can actually be happy about killing someone in their games just because they don't like them. Also I usually date only 1 LI per Shepard because of life experiences and how I see my relationships with others now. The love triangles I'm still trying to decide if I will be able to play it cause I've been down that road and I don't want to see either one of them hurt.

Also though sometimes it's just nice to actually not be you. To get to say the things I could never actually say to someone's face or do things I would never do. However when I start getting to far off track of my own morals it does pulls me back towards paragon. So those playthroughs are usually paragade but leans a little more toward paragon side.