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[Shub-Niggurath64]

Bekkael wrote...

Shub-Niggurath64 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Am I de-railing my own thread? I didn't really mean too...

Well you are the Slayer of Threads so if this goes way off topic that's okay because it's your job.

That reminds me; I should take that title from him. I've slain far more threads than he has. And I have the bans to show for it. At last, my currently-banned main profile does.

I think you hold the title for most frequently banned...tbh.

Three times in as many weeks!

[AndyXTheXGamer360]

I am always good in games where i can choose, i hate being mean.

[ObserverStatus]

My canon character is well intentioned, but pathologically paranoid and always assumes the worst when the details of a big decision are up for interpretation.

[Kaiser Shepard]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

You wouldn't compare Bush to one though, he doesn't have that short black and the round head like a basketball.

Oh really? I guess you didn't look at any political cartoons while goold ol' dubya was in the white house.

I despise politics with every fiber of my body, so I guess I missed it.

You have no idea how relevant to your OP this is.

[The Hierophant]

I'm confused, is this a confession thread or something?

[Volus Warlord]

jreezy wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

 

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

I'm black, so I couldn't even be racist (towards blacks anyway).

You were saying?

HE HAS REVITALIGO!

Re-Vitiligo is probably the more correct form of that made up term.

I was very tempted to post some pics of Chapelle but I don't think Woo would appreciate it.

[Kaiser Shepard]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

You have no idea how relevant to your OP this is.

*sigh* I didn't get the "double-standard" reference, you should know not to mention something without making it clear what you're talking about. I'm intelligent, but I don't "get" things very easily. Just ask bobobo.

I meant the you not being into politics, thing. That seems to be a Paragon hobby, for some reason.

The Hierophant wrote...

I'm confused, is this a confession thread or something?

Hello everyone, my name is Kaiser and I'm an alcoholic.

Volus Warlord wrote...

I was very tempted to post some pics of Chapelle but I don't think Woo would appreciate it.

Oh, that sketch, huh? That was pure brilliance alright.

[Shub-Niggurath64]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

You have no idea how relevant to your OP this is.

*sigh* I didn't get the "double-standard" reference, you should know not to mention something without making it clear what you're talking about. I'm intelligent, but I don't "get" things very easily. Just ask bobobo.

I meant the you not being into politics, thing. That seems to be a Paragon hobby, for some reason.

I consider myself somewhat of a paragon and I care about politics. In fact, I remember that one day where a few dozen of us on the BSN all took a political test and made a group chart, I was further away from the center than almost anyone else. I also think Eternal was pretty much exactly in the middle.

[Kaiser Shepard]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
I meant the you not being into politics, thing. That seems to be a Paragon hobby, for some reason.

.....so...being into politics IS a paragon thing, or isn't? I'm assuming you mean isn't...

bear with me here.

It isn't, or at least that's the general idea I'm getting on here.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 10 janvier 2012 - 05:47 .

[Bekkael]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

I meant the you not being into politics, thing. That seems to be a Paragon hobby, for some reason.

I think the hatred of politics is no respector of para/rene. I don't think I can be classified as paragon and I detest politics. <_<

[The Hierophant]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

I'm confused, is this a confession thread or something?

No, I was trying to see the motivation behind people's paragon or renegade choices. Why they do them.

Then I made a racist joke and kind of derailed my own thread.

Oh alright, but this thread is lulz worthy.

[Eclipse_9990]

It affects all of it really. I'm mostly Paragon, but I can be pretty cold when it comes to certain issues, and I believe strongly in the greater good so there's a good chance I'll do some renegade stuff. Like sacrificing the hostages to catch the Terrorists. Plus I like to be an **** to jerks sometimes.

[Reptilian Rob]

jreezy wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

 

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

I'm black, so I couldn't even be racist (towards blacks anyway).

You were saying?

HE HAS REVITALIGO!

Re-Vitiligo is probably the more correct form of that made up term.

OH SO I CANT SLIPP UPP BECASE IM TIRD! U CIR R FUL OF MALARKEE!

[Unschuld]

 Guess I could go.
I had an average childhood, nothing extraordinary. I attended one of the more educationally sound school systems in my country. Instead of going straight to college however, I felt it was better to serve in the military first, and was the only one to enlist out of the entire graduating class. During my time I lived overseas, provided humanitarian aid, went to war, saw several friends die. How does it affect my playstyle? Well, I believe that there is something to be gained from honor, courage and commitment, in addition to lessons in diplomacy. I also believe in getting the job done.

That, however, does not make me a complete idealist. My actions are probably considered more "paragade" than anything else. For the most part, I try to play as an upstanding officer. When other characters ****** me off or provide snide commentary I usually respond with equal resentment. When hostile characters try to pull a gun/grenade on me, I make sure I draw first and blast them. When the option to wipe out a dangerous species (one queen) presented itself, I took it rather than risk future war. I just wish Shep's dialogue wasn't so callous, as that was the first hard decision I made in the game. would have been more palatable if he just kept his mouth shut.

Other than exceptions like those, I generally try to extend the olive branch. As much as I hate denying a man revenge and letting a criminal overlord get away, I felt saving the refinery was more important. Garrus did get to punch a hole in Sidonis, because it was cleaner. I gritted my teeth and felt like an ass for keeping the evidence hidden at Tali's trial, but it felt better to keep them united rather than unleashing a political firebomb. Destroying the collector base was done not just because "it was an abomination", but rather due to the fact that just about every bit of Reaper tech encountered has a bad habit of turning the researchers against their original goals.

I hated the council, but even when they berated me after every damn mission I never cut them off. Saphra brings up a good point, in that every species should think of itself first, because the others do the same for themselves. That's sound logic, and I won't refute that. The problem is that in Mass Effect the situation is a bit more complicated. TIM may have his mind in the right place, ensuring the safety of humanity, but he's going about it all the wrong way. This, and most of the major renegade path seems to be shortsighted and foolish, rejecting any forms of diplomacy and burning everything on the path to the objective. The council races have existed for thousands of years, and in relative harmony with each other, as a mostly unified force. Humanity is seen as an upstart, strong but needing to prove its worth to the galactic community. Alienating (ha) the other races by continuing an outwardly 'humans first, screw the xenos' approach is hardly the way to gain such respect, or create further peace within the community. If anything, it will unite the other species against humanity, which hardly furthers the goals of securing humanities future. For this reason, I try to work with the other races as much as possible unless it's at a severe detriment of my own. 

No, sacrificing a large amount of human ships to save the council isn't what I consider a "severe detriment". It's a massive sacrifice, with the implications hopefully being that the council races see that humanity is willing to contribute to the greater whole. In that way, the sacrifice isn't made in vain. How else to secure humanity's strength? Gather resources, as much as possible. Build a strong fleet, and make sure it's better than anyone elses if they ever decide to attack. It's why I spent a mind numbing amount of time finding all those damn minerals (I tell myself). Right now though the council races aren't exactly poised to return the humans to the stone age, so there isn't any imminent danger...

... Except from the reapers. Since the end of the first game, Shepard has known this. In my game at least, it means he realizes that the galactic community united as a whole is stronger rather than splintered by infighting and petty rivalry. Humanity's dominance can wait until after the reapers are defeated.

Modifié par Unschuld, 10 janvier 2012 - 06:22 .

[The Sarendoctrinator]

My morality doesn't really effect the way I play games. I always create characters - each with their own personality, history, opinions, and motivations - and make the decisions in-game as they would. The only thing my own personal views change is which characters never survive a playthrough. Actually, if I ever played myself as Shepard, I would be more Renegade than most of my made-up characters... mostly from choosing the safe, practical option. I have many Shepards who take risks keeping the rachni queen and Council alive. I can't say that I would, if that was a real situation and not just a videogame.

About Paragons and a dislike for politics: That's strange, because most (if not all) of the options to kill them off are Renegade.

[StephanieBengal]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

 I wasn't really sure how to title this, so I guess that'll have to do unless I come up with something better.


Relatively simple. How does your personal life/feelings about life/belief affect your place on the Paragon vs. Renegade scale. I'll provide an example by going first:

I didn't have the best childhood. It wasn't bad physically, but mentally it just about destroyed me: I still struggle with it today. Only through the truly unconditional care of a few people I know did I turn out not to be a psychopath (that isn't exaggeration; I'm quite serious). As a result, I don't want to choose things that cause hurt to people when there are other options available (things like killing the colonists on Feros or Shiala). I value life, and wish to preserve it whenever possible.

What about you?


(In a sense, I'm wondering what compels people to make their choices on the scale)

I grew up with two strict and no nonsense parents, both where in the army. My father's favorite saying to me was "no excuses." Complaining simply wasn't something you could do in my house (which is why I give people **** on here who gripe about **** like having to pay for DLC and breathing mask in a GAME. Some of y'all just don't know) you were successful or you failed, and if you didn't get something done you just didn't get it done. 

That being said, I don't really let my personal feelings reflect how I play the game, but it certainly doesn't make me be nicer or meaner. I just make decisions, that is all. 

Modifié par StephanieBengal, 10 janvier 2012 - 06:36 .

[Unschuld]

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...


About Paragons and a dislike for politics: That's strange, because most (if not all) of the options to kill them off are Renegade.

Lol yep. Apparently diplomacy has nothing to do with politics for some reason?