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Will Udina have our back?

Débuté par Eclipse_9990 , janv. 10 2012 07:00

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 03:10

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Udina has our back...
...ready to stab that is.

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 03:14

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From the script ... writers went with the generic stupid way out (along with TIM). Remove any depth they might have and replace all of it with one word.

Modifié par DarthCaine, 10 janvier 2012 - 03:17 .

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 03:15

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DarthCaine wrote...

From the script ... writers went with the generic stupid way out.


Facepalm

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 03:16

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Caine, you handsome son of a b*tch, I thought you had left for good. Nice to see you're back!

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 03:24

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Udina is good at what he does. He's a politician, pure and simple. He is the right choice in peace time since he knows the game and if nothing else, is loyal to humanity. He is also the right choice because removing a man of Anderson's calibre from the Alliance military is a bigger loss for the navy than a gain for humanity.

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 03:24

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...I just had a different avatar

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 03:36

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King Minos wrote...

Oh he has your back, while licking your ear. I expect both Anderson and Udina to act the same, depending on who ever is on the council. I doubt there would be a difference between.


Udina is always ono the council in ME3 and Anderson is his assistant, no matter what you chose in ME1. Between the events of ME2 and the events of ME3 Anderson backed away from all the political BS and let Udina take over everything. It happened in the Mass Effect: Retribution novel.


So Udina is the councilor in ME3, no matter what. And to be honest, I don't think he can be trusted...

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 03:38

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seirhart wrote...

All of my shepard's chose Anderson no matter what for council and all of my shepard's just want to remove udina from the me universe permeantly, and they are all maxed paragon cause Udina is the biggest idiot in the whole me game series.


To bad for you that Udina will be the human councilor in ME3 regardless of your decisions in ME1.

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 03:43

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It's a hard decision, but practically Udina is better suited. Even though I dislike him, like I dislike most politicians, he's just a better choice. I realised this after I chosen Anderson everytime. Honest people are not good politicians, and even if they are in that area they'll not last for very long. I'm thinking of choosing Udina for my first savegame for Mass Effect 3.

Besides, I want Anderson to take the fight to the Reapers from a leadership point of view.

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 03:43

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Co-sign. I made Anderson councilor but regret it, he's done nothing with it. My thinking was a soldier like him would be a leader, man-of-action and not bureaucracy. And of utmost importance, to maintain focus on the Reapers.

Epic fail. He can't handle anything in the big chair: not dealing with anti-human sentiment, not keeping at least the Alliance honest about the Reaper threat. At that point, what good is he? That decision was ultimately a "miss" on my part.


Read Mass Effect: Retribution to understand why Anderson and politics didn't work together the way you (and he) hoped it would.

Anderson and Udina were both important political members at the beginning of Retribution. Whoever was the councilor in the beginning is intentionally left vague, but it was clear that Anderson already decided that Udina was more suitable for the job as councilor, so Udina became councilor and Anderson became his assistant.

Politics are just not Anderson's thing. Like you said, Anderson is a man of action, not a man of bureaucracy. He was forced to play the political game of bureacracy and he failed.

In the end he decided it was not going to work out and he simply left everything behind. Udina took everything over and Anderson went back to the Alliance to serve as an Admiral.

Modifié par Luc0s, 10 janvier 2012 - 03:46 .

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 03:45

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"Nobody stabs me in the back, Udina. Nobody."

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 03:47

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Anderson is no longer the Councilor as of ME3. I think he resigned or was forced out after the events of Mass Effect: Retribution.

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 03:48

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Ramus Quaritch wrote...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Anderson is no longer the Councilor as of ME3. I think he resigned or was forced out after the events of Mass Effect: Retribution.


Yes, but Anderson was not forced out. I already explained exactly what happened in my previous post.

I believe Anderson became an Admiral of the Alliance in the end of Retribution (or he already was an Admiral). I'm not sure of that, since most of the time he worked together with the turians and not with the Alliance.

Modifié par Luc0s, 10 janvier 2012 - 03:53 .

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 04:04

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Depends on what's in it for him.

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 04:11

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I always choose Anderson even when playing full rengade. I would rather an experienced and soldier be in charge rather than some politician.

If the ME is anything like the real world then bureaucrats do all the real work anyway so Udina is useless, while Anderson as a figurehead is not.

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 04:12

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he may well have our back but I'll have a special bullet with 'Udina' written on it ready for his head.

I go Renagade All Day Every Day except for a few major elements:
Mass Effect 1: Saved the Council, Name Anderson Councilor
Mass Effect 2: Destroy the Collector Base, Free David Archer in Overlord, withold the evidence on Rael'Zorah (but give a passionate speech in Tali'Zorah's defense), destroy the heretic geth, and of course, I always put Morinth on ice permanantly.

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 04:13

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I chose Udina on my most resent play throughs and found that I liked him better in ME2 as Councilor. I didn't choose him because I liked him, but because it feels like the story flows better in ME2. And Anderson was pro-moted to Admiral before ME2.

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 04:17

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Mike Shepard wrote...

he may well have our back but I'll have a special bullet with 'Udina' written on it ready for his head.

I go Renagade All Day Every Day except for a few major elements:
Mass Effect 1: Saved the Council, Name Anderson Councilor
Mass Effect 2: Destroy the Collector Base, Free David Archer in Overlord, withold the evidence on Rael'Zorah (but give a passionate speech in Tali'Zorah's defense), destroy the heretic geth, and of course, I always put Morinth on ice permanantly.


Sounds more like you're actually Paragon All Day Every Day except for a few minor moments where you're Renegade. Just sayin'. Not that this is bad. I do think it's funny that you're almost the exact opposite of me. I play mostly Paragon but I sacrificed the Council and saved/kept the Collector base.

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 04:18

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Seboist wrote...

Don't have any hopes for a character that's remotely disliked by the average player.


Fixed that for you.

Modifié par Slidell505, 10 janvier 2012 - 04:19 .

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 04:23

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Anderson is not on the council. He resigned.

Udina will betray u, i feel it

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 04:36

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Luc0s wrote...

Mike Shepard wrote...

he may well have our back but I'll have a special bullet with 'Udina' written on it ready for his head.

I go Renagade All Day Every Day except for a few major elements:
Mass Effect 1: Saved the Council, Name Anderson Councilor
Mass Effect 2: Destroy the Collector Base, Free David Archer in Overlord, withold the evidence on Rael'Zorah (but give a passionate speech in Tali'Zorah's defense), destroy the heretic geth, and of course, I always put Morinth on ice permanantly.


Sounds more like you're actually Paragon All Day Every Day except for a few minor moments where you're Renegade. Just sayin'. Not that this is bad. I do think it's funny that you're almost the exact opposite of me. I play mostly Paragon but I sacrificed the Council and saved/kept the Collector base.


fine how abot this phrasing: I choose the renegade dialog option (1) or interrupt (2) whenever I can. However, my own personal sense of morality (which I follow closely; I play the games the way I'd react) doesn't allow me to keep the Collector base, which is in my eyes a Weapon of Mass Destruction. Similarly, I want to maintain good relations with other species so I saved the council. I kick ass and take names (kill Fist, let the kidnapped Ambassador die, I kill Helana Blake, I kill Toombs, I kill basically anyone I can. I kill the Rachni Queen every single time, if that hurts me in Mass Effect 3 then consequences be damned. I cut the council off every time (not 'renegade' per se but still very amusing.) yes I go paragon for significant moments but I always end up in ME1 with 80% or more Renegade bar filled, 20-30% Paragon bar filled up. In ME2 I always end up looking like Vader without his mask.

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 04:40

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LTiberious wrote...

Anderson is not on the council. He resigned.

Udina will betray u, i feel it


I dont beleive that Udina will betray you in ME3. Because if he did I believe that he will be in a vary bad political storm of trouble.Posted Image

Modifié par WolfForce99, 10 janvier 2012 - 04:41 .

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 04:40

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Eclipse_9990 wrote...

For my main character(Sentinel Paragade) I chose Udina for the council in ME1; because he just seemed like the most logical solution. But when I got to the council in ME2 Udina was still a douche, while Anderson still had my back, and it made me wonder. Did I make the right decision? I mean I don't really regret putting Udina on the council because he's apparently doing good work, but..

In ME3 what if I need to try, and convince the Council of something important, and Udina gangs up with them against me? I'm wondering if this choice is something I'm going to have to pay for. 

I was wondering what you guys thought about this.


No Udina and TIM will stab you on the back,the sad part he ended councilor in ME3  and he working for the ------- i lets you guess

Modifié par GamerrangerX, 10 janvier 2012 - 04:41 .

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 04:41

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Ramus Quaritch wrote...

"Nobody stabs me in the back, Udina. Nobody."


This. Next time he does it Shep's gonna shoot him in the face if it's an option. Damn Udina.

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Posté 10 janvier 2012 - 04:44

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Why people would actually intentionally read the leaked script and spoil the story for themselves is beyond me.
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