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[Am1vf]

casadechrisso wrote...
Just no Merill in bedwear anymore, that's more sick than a naked elf. 

Haha, I haven't romanced Merril yet (trying to make an apropiate Hawke) but now I'm curious:lol:.

Anyway, I knew about the FoxNews... event (and I've noticed the consecuences in ME2) but, does so many people really care about what FoxNews says? they are obviously just making the worst kind of show, and it's not like the kind of people that play bioware games watch that voluntarily.
Also, last time I checked Bioware was in Canada.

Modifié par Am1_vf, 13 janvier 2012 - 02:20 .

[Mike_Neel]

Since we're talking about inventories I'd really like to address something, especially because of DAII.

Can we have a dedicated button for the inventory? In DAII you had to pause, then wheel over to the inventory. That's just so clunky especially when you just killed a bunch of guys and need to compare and contrast their pants to yours and see which pair best fits you. At least in origins the inventory/journal was separate to the start menu (I am speaking from a console perspective. I understand there were differences).

It's just so much simpler bringing up the inventory right away, equipping what I need to, and dropping back into the game. I guess it comes off as nitpicking when I complain about going into a start menu to get into the inventory menu but still. Tons of other games do it and it shouldn't be that hard.

[TEWR]

casadechrisso wrote...

Not to mention that a game with a 18+ sticker shouldn't care at all about kids, and yet people start complaining immediately and use the "I don't want my kid to see this" argument. It just shows how much those labels are really worth, no matter if it says 18, parents apparently buy it for their 13yr olds and then are shocked to see mature content. Dumbness will always exist. But what else can you do but shake your head and play more eastern european games...?

Indeed. The parents usually cater to their children's whims and buy them what they want without doing necessary research, usually for Christmas or birthdays.

Sometimes it's even worse and happens when the kid throws a fit inside a store. Then the parents will just acquiesce to avoid embarassment, and then make public outcries of what's in the game that they bought for their child simply because he threw a tantrum in a store.

If I made a game that ended up being rated M and parents took issue with what my company put in it, I would simply say this:

"It's rated M for a reason. If you bought it for your child you either: A) weren't paying attention to what's in the game, which makes it your own fault or obviously thought your child was mature enough to handle such content. Sex and sexuality are not things to be buried under a rock simply because they exist in art. They will always be with us. To try and get rid of them is absurd."

[Brockololly]

Zjarcal wrote...
....

Reading your posts gives me major headaches. If it's not trolling like in the first page (and subsequently ignoring people calling you out on it), it's stuff like this. I just...

.... yeah.

I didn't post anything on this thread on the 1st page?


I prefer grid inventories. I don't care for list inventories. Yes, I realize thats an opinion, not a fact. Fact: I Dwight Schruted that up on purpose. Fact: on occassion I will go into super hyperbole mode.

[casadechrisso]

Am1_vf wrote...

Also, last time I checked Bioware was in Canada.

You mean back when Bioware was not owned by EA... I'd hardly call them canadian anymore, just a subdivision of EA with their headquarters in Edmonton (and many others in US cities). And even then, the US is still their primary market. 

[Am1vf]

Zjarcal wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Grid Inventory>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>list inventory. Fact.

Seriously, list inventories need to go back to the deepest circle of Hell from whence they first bared their grotesque countenance and damned RPGs with boring and unintuitive inventories.

....

Reading your posts gives me major headaches. If it's not trolling like in the first page (and subsequently ignoring people calling you out on it), it's stuff like this. I just...



.... yeah.

It's not fair bringing HIM into a discussion to defend your point, you are just using him because you know he validates anything you say:D.


Mike Neel - Is that on consoles? I'm quite sure the "i" key worked just fine last time I played.edit:on PC

Modifié par Am1_vf, 13 janvier 2012 - 02:27 .

[Addai]

casadechrisso wrote...

If there's one thing Bioware should really not look at it's Bethesda's writing, and the above mentioned superhero stuff. Seriously, I enjoyed Skyrim a lot in the beginning, but when I was made leader of a dozen guilds, including being named archmage even though my character can barely cast a cantrip, I stopped playing.

That is about roleplay freedom.  They don't limit player freedom because of completionists.  Another reason I love them.  If it breaks your roleplay, don't do it- bottom line- and don't take away other players' ability to mold their stories as they see fit by imposing class rigidity on the game.

As for storytelling, TES storytelling is as good or better.  The whole world is chock full of story.

The companions could have done with fleshing out, but they do all have personalities.  As an example, Belrand is an old Nord, very traditional- he's always telling stories about the old days.  Yet he's a spellsword, so it's like he's an older Nord than most present-day Nords who shun magic.  Vorstag is the opposite of what you'd expect from a Nord.  He likes a warm fire and complains about caves.  He'd like nothing better than you to marry him and let him settle down as merchant.

With only a minimum of observation and extrapolation, the followers are interesting characters, even without long dialogue with them.  If that's an "insult to a roleplayer," I don't even know.

[Mr.House]

I don't want to ugly set male or horrible presentation of females who just want to have sex with me and horrible rolly gameplay that is not fun and give me so many limits in what I want to play. Learn from Bethesda, not CDP, CDP should in fact learn from Bethesda and Bioware.

[TEWR]

casadechrisso wrote...

If there's one thing Bioware should really not look at it's Bethesda's writing, and the above mentioned superhero stuff. Seriously, I enjoyed Skyrim a lot in the beginning, but when I was made leader of a dozen guilds, including being named archmage even though my character can barely cast a cantrip, I stopped playing.

You could always just... make your magic skills level up to a decent level so it makes more sense for your character to be named Archmage.

Or just... not become an Archmage if it's not in line with your character.

Part of why the Dragonborn is named Arch Mage is because he showed initiative, leadership, stalwartness, honor, integrity, and other things.

An Arch Mage should obviously be able to cast some spells, and that's something you have power over. If you didn't want to upgrade them then you shouldn't have gone to a Mage-centric place.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 13 janvier 2012 - 02:31 .

[Mr.House]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

casadechrisso wrote...

If there's one thing Bioware should really not look at it's Bethesda's writing, and the above mentioned superhero stuff. Seriously, I enjoyed Skyrim a lot in the beginning, but when I was made leader of a dozen guilds, including being named archmage even though my character can barely cast a cantrip, I stopped playing.

You could always just... make your magic skills level up to a decent level so it makes more sense for your character to be named Archmage.

Or just... not become an Archmage if it's not in line with your character.

Then you can't do a side quest, you have to join the collage just to complete a quest that has nothing to do with the Collage.

[casadechrisso]

Addai67 wrote...

casadechrisso wrote...

If there's one thing Bioware should really not look at it's Bethesda's writing, and the above mentioned superhero stuff. Seriously, I enjoyed Skyrim a lot in the beginning, but when I was made leader of a dozen guilds, including being named archmage even though my character can barely cast a cantrip, I stopped playing.

That is about roleplay freedom.  They don't limit player freedom because of completionists.  Another reason I love them.  If it breaks your roleplay, don't do it- bottom line- and don't take away other players' ability to mold their stories as they see fit by imposing class rigidity on the game.

As for storytelling, TES storytelling is as good or better.  The whole world is chock full of story.

The companions could have done with fleshing out, but they do all have personalities.  As an example, Belrand is an old Nord, very traditional- he's always telling stories about the old days.  Yet he's a spellsword, so it's like he's an older Nord than most present-day Nords who shun magic.  Vorstag is the opposite of what you'd expect from a Nord.  He likes a warm fire and complains about caves.  He'd like nothing better than you to marry him and let him settle down as merchant.

With only a minimum of observation and extrapolation, the followers are interesting characters, even without long dialogue with them.  If that's an "insult to a roleplayer," I don't even know.

I disagree extremely, but maybe it's what you prefer. However, as for the "freedom", that's simply not true. I was literally forced into accepting these roles and the only thing Bethesda would've had to do is adding a "No thanks, I don't want to" option when they make you archmage/nightingale/guild leader/etc. But they jusrt assume it's what the player wants and force it on you. I felt leadership-raped, so to say, and that's the absolute opposite of freedom. Let me do the questlines and then just say "thanks, I have better stuff to do, why dont you make xy the new leader instead?". It's the simplest thing to do for a developer, but leaving it out ruined a lot to me.  

[TEWR]

Mr.House wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

casadechrisso wrote...

If there's one thing Bioware should really not look at it's Bethesda's writing, and the above mentioned superhero stuff. Seriously, I enjoyed Skyrim a lot in the beginning, but when I was made leader of a dozen guilds, including being named archmage even though my character can barely cast a cantrip, I stopped playing.

You could always just... make your magic skills level up to a decent level so it makes more sense for your character to be named Archmage.

Or just... not become an Archmage if it's not in line with your character.

Then you can't do a side quest, you have to join the collage just to complete a quest that has nothing to do with the Collage.

So you join the College to do said quest and never return once it's completed. You only joined just to access information easily.

And out of curiosity, which quest? The Azura one?

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 13 janvier 2012 - 02:33 .

[Zjarcal]

Brockololly wrote...

I didn't post anything on this thread on the 1st page?

Yeah, I got confused with the other thread... I attribute it to the headche.

Am1_vf wrote...

It's not fair bringing HIM into a discussion to defend your point, you are just using him because you know he validates anything you say[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie].

Lol.

[Atakuma]

google_calasade wrote...
Yeah, ****, I hate to admit this because of the love I have for the BG series and wishing for the Bioware of old, but, yeah, I would say the stories behind the Witcher games are superior.  They are more intricate, subtle, and decidedly darker (i.e., more adult).

Eh, to me they are only better because they tell a singular story, instead of piecing together a bunch of largely unrelated ones like both dragon age games.

[Am1vf]

About the freedom I will quote myself from another thread:

Am1_vf wrote...
... for me too much choice for the player can sometimes be detrimental to the believability of the world and the depth of the characters.

Aside from that, when I face choices in typical Bethesda games it reminds me of the qun: "Do it or do not" "You have the choice not no be, or follow the qun" (not exact quotes of the qun). The choices within quests are scarce, wich is wierd because in a open world game it should be easier to make branching consequences I think.

[Boiny Bunny]

Ponendus wrote...

I hope they do take away the beautiful graphics from TW2. That was certainly a triumph.

I hope they do not take away from it how to create the most unlikeable protagonist in RPG history. :-)

Overstatement much...?

[Yrkoon]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Mr.House wrote...
 Then you can't do a side quest, you have to join the collage just to complete a quest that has nothing to do with the Collage.

So you join the College to do said quest and never return once it's completed. You only joined just to access information easily.

And out of curiosity, which quest? The Azura one?

Definitely not the Azura's Star quest, as you don't  have to  ever set foot in the Mage college to do any aspect of it.

He might be talking about the Forbidden Legends  (Gauldur's Amulet) quest, which you can't complete the last part of  until you join the college.  But no... That can't be it either.    Because Even a Brief perusal of the  Story behind that quest makes it Obvious that it has EVERYTHING to do with Mages, and therefore, should, in fact, involve the college.

But where were we?  Oh  yeah.  Nipples.  No wait, Inventories.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 13 janvier 2012 - 02:53 .

[Mr.House]

Yrkoon wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Mr.House wrote...
 Then you can't do a side quest, you have to join the collage just to complete a quest that has nothing to do with the Collage.

So you join the College to do said quest and never return once it's completed. You only joined just to access information easily.

And out of curiosity, which quest? The Azura one?

Definitely not the Azura's Star quest, as you don't  have to  ever set foot in the Mage college to do any aspect of it.

He might be talking about the Forbidden Legends  (Galdur's Amulet) quest, which you can't complete the last part of  until you join the college.  But no... That can't be it either.    Because Even a Brief perusal of the  Story behind that quest makes it Obvious that it has EVERYTHING to do with Mages, and therefore, should, in fact, involve the college.

But where were we?  Oh  yeah.  Nipples.  No wait, Inventories.

Forbidden Legends yes and since you don't have to complete it to advance anything in the College it does not belong to the faction. It's a side quest and a drunk deisgner or someone who just wnated to troll players put one part of the quest in a College only area.

[Mr.House]

Also TOR uses a grid inventory, so....

[Masako52]

Wrong thread

Modifié par Masako52, 13 janvier 2012 - 02:55 .

[TEWR]

The quest with Jyrik Gauldurson in Saarthal? I still have to investigate more dealing with that quest, but all one needs to do is join the College, do said part of quest, and then never return to the College.

Granted I'll admit one shouldn't be forced to join the College just to access this part of that particular quest, but it's not like you were forced to stay either.

But... now we're getting off track. So.... let's discuss nudity again. Tasteful nudity and not classless nudity.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 13 janvier 2012 - 02:56 .

[Mr.House]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

The quest with Jyrik Gauldurson in Saarthal? I still have to investigate more dealing with that quest, but all one needs to do is join the College, do said part of quest, and then never return to the College.

Granted I'll admit one shouldn't be forced to join the College just to access this part of that particular quest, but it's not like you were forced to stay either.

But what if you can't do teh spell to get in? Then you have to invest in magic and use gold.

[TEWR]

Mr.House wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

The quest with Jyrik Gauldurson in Saarthal? I still have to investigate more dealing with that quest, but all one needs to do is join the College, do said part of quest, and then never return to the College.

Granted I'll admit one shouldn't be forced to join the College just to access this part of that particular quest, but it's not like you were forced to stay either.

But what if you can't do teh spell to get in? Then you have to invest in magic and use gold.

What spell? All you needed to do was have one spell and cast it on the wall while wearing the amulet. And you can buy spell tomes from mages in the College.

It's not much of a stretch to think that by going somewhere on College business you'll need a spell or two.

But now we're way off track.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 13 janvier 2012 - 03:00 .

[Yrkoon]

Mr.House wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Mr.House wrote...
 Then you can't do a side quest, you have to join the collage just to complete a quest that has nothing to do with the Collage.

So you join the College to do said quest and never return once it's completed. You only joined just to access information easily.

And out of curiosity, which quest? The Azura one?

Definitely not the Azura's Star quest, as you don't  have to  ever set foot in the Mage college to do any aspect of it.

He might be talking about the Forbidden Legends  (Galdur's Amulet) quest, which you can't complete the last part of  until you join the college.  But no... That can't be it either.    Because Even a Brief perusal of the  Story behind that quest makes it Obvious that it has EVERYTHING to do with Mages, and therefore, should, in fact, involve the college.

But where were we?  Oh  yeah.  Nipples.  No wait, Inventories.

Forbidden Legends yes and since you don't have to complete it to advance anything in the College it does not belong to the faction.

It's not part of the  Faction's Quest line.     It simply involves the college because Gaulder  was the Archmage of the Skyrim's High King and therefore, information needed to complete the quest is logically found there.  The quest is  ABOUT Mages.   Would you rather the Thieves guild handle it instead?

Modifié par Yrkoon, 13 janvier 2012 - 03:02 .

[Mr.House]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

The quest with Jyrik Gauldurson in Saarthal? I still have to investigate more dealing with that quest, but all one needs to do is join the College, do said part of quest, and then never return to the College.

Granted I'll admit one shouldn't be forced to join the College just to access this part of that particular quest, but it's not like you were forced to stay either.

But what if you can't do teh spell to get in? Then you have to invest in magic and use gold.

What spell? All you needed to do was have one spell and cast it on the wall while wearing the amulet. And you can buy spell tomes from mages in the College.

It's not much of a stretch to think that by going somewhere on College business you'll need a spell or two.

But now we're way off track.

The spell is random and not always the same.