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[log1x_dr4g0n]

I don't really care, but most games, like Gears of War has a profanity and gore selection that you can turn on or off if it bothers you that much.

[Unschuld]

Ghost-621 wrote...

Honestly, I'm growing rather tired of the gratuitous profanity in games today. ME2 didn't have that, and I'd love it if they went back to the ME1 style, where it was better dialogue over profanity to convey the character's feelings and intentions.

Take Battlefield 3 for example. On BOTH factions, Both US and Russia. "F! We lost the objective!" "I'm getting F'ed Up over here!" EVERY MINUTE OF THE GAME. It's premature, and it's just...so stupid that people think that using profanity somehow makes them bigger and more mature, and the same goes for gaming. Profanity does not make a game more mature.

Also, before any idiot waddles in and says "hurr wuzzie get uver iiit hurr," try broadening your vocabulary.

Intelligence > Looking what this toilet-society's standard of "cool."

I think you're mixing "intelligence" with "class". Yes, I have high opinions regarding an extended vocabulary and it bothers me to talk to someone about certain subjects when nothing is heard from their end but simple words and curses. However, in certain contex and situations, I don't see anything wrong with a peppering of profanity. It adds flavor. ME2 wasn't your idea of excessive, was it? I found it pretty mild, but it had just the right amount.

[didymos1120]

naledgeborn wrote...

Does Shepard use profanity?

It's pretty rare, but it does happen. 

Oh, and on the subject of profanity use and breadth of vocabulary:

I'm a sesquipedalian mother@#$%er, mother@#$%er.

Modifié par didymos1120, 10 janvier 2012 - 09:05 .

[Walker White]

Unschuld wrote...

I think you're mixing "intelligence" with "class".

Exactly.  There is a reason why we refer to these words as "vulgar".

[Unschuld]

Fun fact of the day! The word vulgar comes from Vulgaris, which essentially means common i.e. commoners.

[didymos1120]

Unschuld wrote...

Fun fact of the day! The word vulgar comes from Vulgaris, which essentially means common i.e. commoners.

Yep. It's essentially a term of snobbery.

Modifié par didymos1120, 10 janvier 2012 - 09:09 .

[PSUHammer]

StephanieBengal wrote...

The problem with your statement is that I know a lot of people who curse just because who are highly intelligent. So nice opinion, but it doesn't mean anything. 

I don't have an issue with profanity, like really who gives a ****? Oh my **** my bad, you care, that's ****ing great. 

Intelligence isn't based on how you speak, so what the **** are you talking about? Oh I know, you're characterizing based off foul language. That's like saying only intelligent people go to college. When that isn't the case, because we've got a lot of morons with a good educational backgrounds. 

If your standard of vocabulary looks down upon on profanity, I can slightly see that and respect it. But don't bring in non-sense like that to the table about broadening vocabulary on some video game ****. That stuff irks the hell out of me. 

Sorry, but you are wrong.  Society, in general, frowns upon profanity.  And, I am someone who tends to swear a lot, especially around friends.  I think the idea of certain letters being put together and cecoming offensive to someone, is plain silly.  But, that isn't the cultural norm, especially in the work place.  And, agree or not, you still make an impression if you use a lot of profanity.  And it is generally negative.  Does it mean you are dumb?  No.  But it can leave the impression that you lack the intelligence and/or vocabulary to properly express your feelings.  (or it means you don't have social graces)

Modifié par Hammer6767, 10 janvier 2012 - 09:13 .

[PSUHammer]

Walker White wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

I think you're mixing "intelligence" with "class".

Exactly.  There is a reason why we refer to these words as "vulgar".

True...and, I must say that I think a well timed expletive can really hit an emotion home.  But, only if it isn't overused.  I think Jack, in ME2, was a good use of cursing in a game.  Totally fit her character.

[AlanC9]

Hammer6767 wrote...

StephanieBengal wrote...

The problem with your statement is that I know a lot of people who curse just because who are highly intelligent. So nice opinion, but it doesn't mean anything. 

I don't have an issue with profanity, like really who gives a ****? Oh my **** my bad, you care, that's ****ing great. 

Intelligence isn't based on how you speak, so what the **** are you talking about? Oh I know, you're characterizing based off foul language. That's like saying only intelligent people go to college. When that isn't the case, because we've got a lot of morons with a good educational backgrounds. 

If your standard of vocabulary looks down upon on profanity, I can slightly see that and respect it. But don't bring in non-sense like that to the table about broadening vocabulary on some video game ****. That stuff irks the hell out of me. 

Sorry, but you are wrong.  Society, in general, frowns upon profanity.  And, I am someone who tends to swear a lot, especially around friends.  I think the idea of certain letters being put together and cecoming offensive to someone, is plain silly.  But, that isn't the cultural norm, especially in the work place.  And, agree or not, you still make an impression if you use a lot of profanity.  And it is generally negative.  Does it mean you are dumb?  No.  But it can leave the impression that you lack the intelligence and/or vocabulary to properly express your feelings.  (or it means you don't have social graces)

Society in general? There's no such thing. There are particular subcultures where profanity is used, and other subcultures where profanity is not used.

And I can think of plenty of workplaces where profanity is used all the ****ing time. You should hear the way stockbrokers talk. Or chefs.

Or soldiers.

[Adhin]

I think my favorite use of profanity so far was in ME2 actually. When you took control of joker? **** ****! what the ****?! I dunno why but I was laughing the whole time. Was almost the only word he used, good times.

[Archer Two Four]

@adhin, me too actually XD desperately running for where EDI was sending me, while laughing so hard, I sent the mouthful of Pepsi I had flying across the room

[soon4]

(not really on subject) but oddly enough, while on my 1st playthrough of ME2, every time I cussed in my head, Jack or whoever would say exactly what was in my head. especially the joker mission. lol

[Phaedon]

Just imagine that they shout 'duck' instead of 'f*ck'. It is quite entertaining.

'Why the DUCK aren't you wearing pants, nephew?'

'DUCK you and all you stand for, Illusive Goose!'

'I will kick your DUCKING tailfeathers where the sun doesn't shine!'

[AgitatedLemon]

Ghost-621 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

ME2's amount didn't bother me. Anything more and it might start to, though. Similar rationale. I don't get offended by it, it's just often pretty meh.

It's not even that I'm offended by it. It's in everything now. I'm used to it, as bad as that is. 

But, come on, it is just rediculous how it can get so...excessive. Battlefield 3.

If you were in the middle of a battleffield, with shots being fired on both sides, and you had to pull out some troops, which of these dialogues would you pick?

"I dear say my good boy, I must ask you ruffians to cease hostilities and exit the premises at once!"

OR

"Cease fire and get your f**king a** outta here now! Go go go!"

[Fredvdp]

Unschuld wrote...

Fun fact of the day! The word vulgar comes from Vulgaris, which essentially means common i.e. commoners.

You can also use the term vulgus (same meaning) which is a word I use daily to refer to other people.

[Inutaisho7996]

naledgeborn wrote...

Does Shepard use profanity?

I'm sorry, I'm having trouble hearing you. I'm getting a lot of bull**** on this line.

[Drone223]

Phaedon wrote...

Just imagine that they shout 'duck' instead of 'f*ck'. It is quite entertaining.

'Why the DUCK aren't you wearing pants, nephew?'

'DUCK you and all you stand for, Illusive Goose!'

'I will kick your DUCKING tailfeathers where the sun doesn't shine!'

You must have watched the Vicar of Dibley

Back to topic: Profanity works when it fits the character's personalilty or used in the correct situation e.g. Vega's "holy ****!" in the VGA trailer, other wise it will just becomes silly imo 

Modifié par Drone223, 10 janvier 2012 - 09:52 .

[massivegarrus]

@adhin Damn right! 'twas awesome!

You know what irks me though? The near total lack of any accent other than American in the game. It doesn't annoy me but it does seem rather odd that there isn't a single Brit in the universe.
Come on! Even Star Trek enterprise had one!

ONTOPIC.
Now I'm an ex soldier. Served in the british army for 6 whole years (left just last month!) and you know what? Cursing almost after every other word is actually the norm. We have to put up with so much stress it's pretty much the only way to avoid going completely insane.
I'm still cutting back though. My family are firmly in the "swearing = bad vocabulary" camp!

[stonbw1]

After all, its still just a video game; don't know why F-bombs are necessary. And don't say, "because, its like real life". For gosh sakes, we're talking about aliens flying around the galaxy trying to defeat robots.

[AgitatedLemon]

stonbw1 wrote...

After all, its still just a video game; don't know why F-bombs are necessary. And don't say, "because, its like real life". For gosh sakes, we're talking about aliens flying around the galaxy trying to defeat robots.

You want realistic use of profanity?

The average battlefield.

Or perhaps stub your toe.

Or perhaps your spouse deleted your favorite show from Tevo.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 10 janvier 2012 - 10:09 .

[alex90c]

stonbw1 wrote...

After all, its still just a video game; don't know why F-bombs are necessary. And don't say, "because, its like real life". For gosh sakes, we're talking about aliens flying around the galaxy trying to defeat robots.

read massivegarrus' post

it's a way to deal with stress, and a race of killing machines invading the galaxy will probably bring stress up, no?

[AlanC9]

stonbw1 wrote...

After all, its still just a video game; don't know why F-bombs are necessary. And don't say, "because, its like real life". For gosh sakes, we're talking about aliens flying around the galaxy trying to defeat robots.

Sure, it isn't necessary. There are a lot of things in a game that aren't necessary.

It also isn't necessary for Bio to cater to folks with delicate sensibilities.

Modifié par AlanC9, 10 janvier 2012 - 10:08 .

[stonbw1]

Agitated, you're exactly right, but we don't send small children on the battlefield. We do let them play video games. If I had younger children, I'd hate the notion that they are exposed to cursing in the context of a video game.

[naledgeborn]

I meant in Mass Effect 3. And yeah I've seen them all from ME1 & 2.