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[mitthrawuodo]

It will have profanity but only in extreme circumstances I think and no krogan or turian. Maybe civilians in a reaper attack and of course joker

[massivegarrus]

Does no one ever remember the old bleep machines? You know those things that went "motherf{BLEEP}"?

Bioware could always put that in as an OPTION and before the game actually starts it would ask if you wanted the whole thing uncensored or not. Cod style.

[AgitatedLemon]

stonbw1 wrote...

Agitated, you're exactly right, but we don't send small children on the battlefield. We do let them play video games. If I had younger children, I'd hate the notion that they are exposed to cursing in the context of a video game.

If you're allowing your small children to play a video game that's rated 17+, 18+, and so forth, then something is wrong.

And it isn't the game's fault.

If your child can;t tell the difference between real and fake, then there are 3 things that can be wrong.

1. You're bad parent. I won't butter it up. Not syaing it's concrete, but it's a possibility.
2. Your child has a mental deficiency.
3. Child is insecure.

There's also swearing in... Everything. Why is ME and video games all of a sudden the culprit?

[AlanC9]

stonbw1 wrote...

Agitated, you're exactly right, but we don't send small children on the battlefield. We do let them play video games. If I had younger children, I'd hate the notion that they are exposed to cursing in the context of a video game.

Which part of "mature-rated" did you miss?

Come to think of it, what's the *****ing point of keeping bad language away from children? Unless there's been a big change on playgrounds since I was in grade school, the kids will hear everything anyway.

Modifié par AlanC9, 10 janvier 2012 - 10:16 .

[Ramus Quaritch]

Most of the cussing came from Jack, though. I hope they balance it out rather than have one character with a dirty mouth.

[AgitatedLemon]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

stonbw1 wrote...

After all, its still just a video game; don't know why F-bombs are necessary. And don't say, "because, its like real life". For gosh sakes, we're talking about aliens flying around the galaxy trying to defeat robots.

You want realistic use of profanity?

The average battlefield.

Really? I'd think professional soldiers have better things to do that swear.

Wait, let me rephrase that: "well trained soldiers" is what I meant. The ones that know keeping your mouth shut and any radio clean from unnecessary barking.

Case in point, most recruits and later soldiers learn fast that any drill seargant is only barking when everything is working. The less swearing involved, the worse the situation is. Which is exactly because of what I just tangled above: unnecessary BS is unnecessary BS and has no place in a critical situation like on a battlefield.

I'm not talking about boot camp.

I'm talking the middle of a battle, shots being fired on both sides, people dying left and right.

[Boiny Bunny]

Ghost-621 wrote...

Profanity does not make a game more mature.

I agree with that statement - but, it should be noted that the complete absence of profanity also does not make a game more mature.

Ultimately, profanity, much like violence and nudity, should only be included where it is appropriate, given the context.

[Archer Two Four]

Soldiers are a foul mouthed bunch XD I mean, it's not that every other word is foul or anything like that, but, when a reaper is about to shoot a giant laser at you and kill you, "oh, no" wouldn't quite it. If it bothers you that much, then why buy 18 or M rated games/films/other media in the first place? In a way, this is sort of another form of political correctness. But most games these days have a language filter (anyone remember Perfect Dark on the N64? Even that had one XD)

[massivegarrus]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Really? I'd think professional soldiers have better things to do that swear.

Wait, let me rephrase that: "well trained soldiers" is what I meant. The ones that know keeping your mouth shut and any radio clean from unnecessary barking.

Case in point, most recruits and later soldiers learn fast that any drill seargant is only barking when everything is working. The less swearing involved, the worse the situation is. Which is exactly because of what I just tangled above: unnecessary BS is unnecessary BS and has no place in a critical situation like on a battlefield.

I was a well trained soldier among many other well trained soldiers.  I can tell you that cursing is normal and has been for many years.  When the s**t really hits the fan and the job needs doing then it's miraculously cut out but straight after that soldiers revert straight to type and curse like hell.

I think we should be given the option to have it bleeped if you should choose. 
I've no problems with cursing in character or under stress but some do have a problem with it and that is why the option should be in there.

Modifié par massivegarrus, 10 janvier 2012 - 10:20 .

[seirhart]

It doesn't bother me that ME and games now use profanity I say more the merrier cause I just don't care one bit.

[Mister Mida]

I find the whole swearing thing to be inconsistent. What, did everyone two years later after ME (1) suddenly learn how to say 'sh!t' and 'f*ck'? I can understand Jack saying those words, but everyone else, like Udina or Shepard? It's an unnecesary inconsistency. For whatever reason they brought it in, it doesn't add anything other than making some characters sound really silly and cheap.

[massivegarrus]

Mister Mida wrote...

I find the whole swearing thing to be inconsistent. What, did everyone two years later after ME (1) suddenly learn how to say 'sh!t' and 'f*ck'? I can understand Jack saying those words, but everyone else, like Udina or Shepard? It's an unnecesary inconsistency. For whatever reason they brought it in, it doesn't add anything other than making some characters sound really silly and cheap.

FACTOID.
The only reason I watched torchwood : Miracle day was so I could hear John De Lancie say "Oh f**k!" before being blown up.
Fo' realzies!

[kojac.ghosper]

Whoa. Hold up. Professional soldiers don't swear?
You've got to be fistf**king me. There is SOME radio etiquette, but when things are moving fast and people are getting hurt and there's hot sh*t, blood and metal flying everywhere...you can bet your sweet *ss that some choice words are being used at high volume.

That and it bleeds into military culture.

[CyberDirectorFreedom]

I see no reason why there shouldn't be profanity in the game. It gets the point across. Let's say someone betrays you. You get angry, and say "you b****". You want to say something, because you're really angry, but without the profanity, what are you going to say? And come on, really, sometimes people say things without really thinking. I don't think absolutely everything through. Sometimes I just react.

What I'm trying to say is; The profanity helps add to the realism. Not everyone is going to be running around swearing, but then, not everyone is going to be holding back what they would normally say. Which is exactly how it was in Mass Effect 2. Some people, Jack for instance, swore quite a bit. It fit with her personality. A lot of people also didn't, as it fit with their personality.

People are the way they are. As much as these people aren't really people, they are still made to be realistic. I'd much prefer someone swearing in a game, rather than see a situation that really should have it and the character is just silent, or says something out of character. Jack's loyalty mission for instance. Nearing the end of it, she's thinking something through, then just says "F***". That conversation wouldn't nearly have the same level of emotion in it if she was silent or said "Hmm..." or "Darn." Swearing can convey emotion that really isn't possible without it.

[IronSabbath88]

I for one loved the sudden f-bomb dropped by Sidonis. It was pretty unexpected.

[alex90c]

jreezy wrote...

100k wrote...

I remember how tame ME1 was, especially in the language and gore department. That game could've probably been rated T. Uncharted was more "mature" in that regards.

Not with the romance scene.

I know right. Side boob? arse cheeks? oh man, Fox News would have a field d- 

-oh wait 

[Mister Mida]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

I find the whole swearing thing to be inconsistent. What, did everyone two years later after ME (1) suddenly learn how to say 'sh!t' and 'f*ck'? I can understand Jack saying those words, but everyone else, like Udina or Shepard?

"I'm sick of this Council and its anti-human bull-"

Yeah, Udina totally wasn't going to finish that sentence if ME1 if he wasn't interrupted. So it's definitely OOC for him to use that word in ME2.

Touché

[massivegarrus]

kojac.ghosper wrote...

Whoa. Hold up. Professional soldiers don't swear?

In the heat of the moment it really does near as dammit vanish.  Guys have more to worry about than to say ************ while getting rounds down.  Although a round coming at you unexpectedly never fails to bring a few choice examples out of the best of us

You've got to be fistf**king me. There is SOME radio etiquette, but when things are moving fast and people are getting hurt and there's hot sh*t, blood and metal flying everywhere...you can bet your sweet *ss that some choice words are being used at high volume.

Some radio etiquette? 
You've never hear of voice procedure then! Everyone speaks over those radios in a very particular way.  If there weren't VP then you'd have a hell of a job understanding them back on camp let alone when the bombs are dropping!

That and it bleeds into military culture.

[mybudgee]

There will be the exact same amount of colorful language in ME3 as there was in ME2

[massivegarrus]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
"Time spent swearing is time and effort wasted"

It is and in an ideal world it would not happen but this isn't an ideal world and neither is the world of ME!

That is what well trained soldiers must know.

Nope.  It simply isn't taught because it really doesn't matter.  All the noise/light disciple in taught from day one and noise covers cursing

[Wulfram]

If Jack's not a squadmate, that's got to tone things down a bit.

jreezy wrote...

100k wrote...

I remember how tame ME1 was, especially in the language and gore department. That game could've probably been rated T. Uncharted was more "mature" in that regards.

Not with the romance scene.

It was rated a 12 in the UK, which I believe is the same thing.

Modifié par Wulfram, 10 janvier 2012 - 10:38 .