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[Il Divo]

didymos1120 wrote...

BTW, OP, just so Bioware knows how to cater to you in the future, what words are verboten exactly?

Well-played, as usual.

[Elhanan]

Kmead15 wrote...

Firefly, really? They threw around explicatives all the time. Sure, the profanity was either outdated or in a different language, but the intent behind the outbursts were the same. In any case, having a character react to a surprising situation in a humorous manner is acceptable if decreasing tension is your goal. Using humor inappropriately can result in a massive anti-climax, and using it all the time just makes the audience not take the threat seriously.

Perhaps, but I would say the tension between the Reavers of Serenity, and that of the Reapers of ME2 may have been more intense; humor or not. And I have always liked the line, "We are going to need a bigger boat!", as opposed to the obsceneties uttered in the same film.

[someone else]

Elhanan wrote...

someone else wrote...

gee what's wrong with "darn". "shoot", "fudge" and "heck"? Think of the spice these would add to Zaeed's dialog, or provide some baddies with real snappy come-backs. Those other nasty words should be banned along with all those unnecessary and - frankly - embarrassing suggestive moves and scenes.

Thank you. The Morality Police appreciate your attention.

No thanks needed; glad to help Junior.

..."junior"...?  Hmmm, I guess you're as young as you feel.

[AgitatedLemon]

"We are going to need a bigger boat!"

Never become a professional writer.

[MACharlie1]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

"We are going to need a bigger boat!"

Never become a professional writer.

Especially since the line is actually:

"You're going to need a bigger boat."

[jcolt]

depends on the character if you know any soldiers, mechanics, etc most swear constantly on the job. ever heard the term you cuss like a sailor, but really i could care less as long as the game is fun to play.

[Bananables]

Confujack say "Sh*t, you sound like a p*ssy."

Thank you, Jack. That is all.

[Elhanan]

jcolt wrote...

depends on the character if you know any soldiers, mechanics, etc most swear constantly on the job. ever heard the term you cuss like a sailor, but really i could care less as long as the game is fun to play.

Depends on the job also, as swearing may get you fired or demoted. 

And I do care, at least enough to try and lobby for better products moving forward.

[AlanC9]

Elhanan wrote...

jcolt wrote...

depends on the character if you know any soldiers, mechanics, etc most swear constantly on the job. ever heard the term you cuss like a sailor, but really i could care less as long as the game is fun to play.

Depends on the job also, as swearing may get you fired or demoted.

But that job you might get fired from would not be "soldier."

[Mclouvins]

This whole thread made me facepalm so hard I think i broke my nose.

[Il Divo]

jreezy wrote...

Because vulgar language obviously degrades the quality of a product.

As do sex and violence, regardless of context or content. Surely they're next to go.

[jcolt]

Elhanan wrote...

jcolt wrote...

depends on the character if you know any soldiers, mechanics, etc most swear constantly on the job. ever heard the term you cuss like a sailor, but really i could care less as long as the game is fun to play.

Depends on the job also, as swearing may get you fired or demoted. 

And I do care, at least enough to try and lobby for better products moving forward.

maybe but every soldier i know was trained for combat not to speak pretty but as long as its vega spoutin f&ck every few mins and not liara it'd make sense.

[didymos1120]

Il Divo wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Because vulgar language obviously degrades the quality of a product.

As do sex and violence, regardless of context or content. Surely they're next to go.

Bioware should remake ME1 and replace all the guns with hand radios.

[Il Divo]

didymos1120 wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Because vulgar language obviously degrades the quality of a product.

As do sex and violence, regardless of context or content. Surely they're next to go.

Bioware should remake ME1 and replace all the guns with hand radios.

Hehe, someone's been watching South Park recently, I see.

[didymos1120]

Oh, hey OP: how do you feel about Shakespeare?

[jcolt]

Il Divo wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Because vulgar language obviously degrades the quality of a product.

As do sex and violence, regardless of context or content. Surely they're next to go.

well ya its not like sex sells or somethin.

[AlanC9]

Il Divo wrote...

Elhanan wrote...
A good story does not need to rely on profanity, stereotypes, and appealing to the lowest common denominator in language to weave a superior tale. There are enough heroes and villains in literature and film to indicate that other choices can be used well.

Aww see, now there you go being all unreasonable again. No offense, but if you keep up this attitude of "lowest common denominator", no one is going to take you seriously. To be blunt: you are not a special little snowflake. You, like the rest of us, are consumers with an interest in a certain type of product. That is all.

It's pretty obvious what's going on there. There's a common phenomenon where the traits of the "elite" are seen as the norm and deviations from that norm are seen as defects. I forget what this is called; my social science classes are a couple decades behind me now.

"Elite" in quotes because it really isn't true that our society works this way. "Vulgarity" is a hallmark of some of the most powerful subcultures we have. However, most of our public settings for exercising power still do conform to the onetime habits of the onetime elite even though the current elite no longer follows these practices in private. That will probably go on indefinitely; it keeps out the riff-raff.

It's just sad to see people internalizing these values.

[Chuvvy]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Sofia Lamb wrote...

I cannot really recall Jack saying anything too vulgar after her recruitment mission

"If you want anything you can go f**k yourself"

"F**k off"

"F**k"

Three times in a thirty hour game, I see where people are coming from. Jack was crazy vulgar.

No, that's just 3 examples. She does it like, twice more during her conversations.

DIOS MIO!

Modifié par Slidell505, 11 janvier 2012 - 06:30 .

[AgitatedLemon]

Slidell505 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Sofia Lamb wrote...

I cannot really recall Jack saying anything too vulgar after her recruitment mission

"If you want anything you can go f**k yourself"

"F**k off"

"F**k"

Three times in a thirty hour game, I see where people are coming from. Jack was crazy vulgar.

No, that's just 3 examples. She does it like, twice more during her conversations.

*snip*

ikr?

[Il Divo]

AlanC9 wrote...

It's pretty obvious what's going on there. There's a common phenomenon where the traits of the "elite" are seen as the norm and deviations from that norm are seen as defects. I forget what this is called; my social science classes are a couple decades behind me now.

"Elite" in quotes because it really isn't true that our society works this way. "Vulgarity" is a hallmark of some of the most powerful subcultures we have. However, most of our public settings for exercising power still do conform to the onetime habits of the onetime elite even though the current elite no longer follows these practices in private. That will probably go on indefinitely; it keeps out the riff-raff.

It's just sad to see people internalizing these values.

It's funny that you should mention that. It reminds me a bit of Nietzsche's Genealogy, in terms of how language has been shaped to suit the advantages of the aristocrat, where what is to the advantage of the elite is regarded as "good".

Currently we have this sentiment of everyone being created equal, but for some reason we still can't get away from this idea of the "elite" as being ideal. It could just be a simple case of the human ego: "If anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself."

Modifié par Il Divo, 11 janvier 2012 - 06:36 .

[spirosz]

How can you not love the delivery of this line "So **** you, and thanks for asking"
Skip to 2:48

Plus really, out of all the things to complain in a sci-fi game filled with violence, love, whatever other thing might bother people these days, you complain about profanity

Where's Udina with "This is an OUTRAGE" 

Modifié par spiros9110, 11 janvier 2012 - 06:40 .

[DiebytheSword]

didymos1120 wrote...

Oh, hey OP: how do you feel about Shakespeare?

ROTFLM*O.

Check mate right here folks.

Modifié par DiebytheSword, 11 janvier 2012 - 06:37 .