I consider villains a narrative construct. After all, a good novel can villainize someone whose views I agree with, and the hero defeating them will have a positive emotional impact.Poshible wrote...
Villain depends on the player's idea of a villain, does it not?
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Jasmine96 wrote...
Mike Smith wrote...
If we're going to be mentioning the Warden, I'm going to say Alistair. I so want the Theirins to finally come to a end.
Haha Imagine all the fan girls that would be coming after you
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Poshible wrote...
Jasmine96 wrote...
Mike Smith wrote...
If we're going to be mentioning the Warden, I'm going to say Alistair. I so want the Theirins to finally come to a end.
Haha Imagine all the fan girls that would be coming after you
Yes, not only Alistair's but Maric's as well
Well, Meredith was supposed to be a villain, but, I chose not to see her as such. I found it incredibly hard to side with the mages after seeing all the dirty blood magic and abominations running the show in Kirkwall. I saw Anders as a villain in the end. Although, I know this is not agreed upon as a whole. I also fail to see Loghain as a complete villian, but I read the novels and such. Doesn't mean I didn't kill him off...I did, in all play thoughs. Can't lose Alistair of course.
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Jasmine96 wrote...
Mike Smith wrote...
If we're going to be mentioning the Warden, I'm going to say Alistair. I so want the Theirins to finally come to a end.
Haha Imagine all the fan girls that would be coming after you
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Poshible wrote...
See, I read Asunder too and came to the conclusion he too was no a villain. Adrian...grrr, I want to smash her throat in. I think it may just lay within our own views if we feel them as villains. I may just be an anomaly in that sense. Lord Seeker Lambert interested me because he knew the Black Divine... Divine Justinia V is another story, her back handed tactics did not appease me.
that and all the lore, and speculation. Like Flemith, some see her as the end all be all villain other's see her as the one that will be the ultimate savior of the world. Hmm, I do not know...Modifié par Poshible, 04 mars 2012 - 04:38 .
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Poshible wrote...
I never liked Wynne-- killed her in Origins in all but one play through, and ending up wishing I had. She pitted me against the mages from the start. Not to mention...Connor. I always played anti-mage in Origins/Awakening (Gave Anders hell) and same as well in DA2. I liked Morrigan well enough, and Fiona I adored. That may be because we "Get to know" them better. I just took the "Follow the nice Templar..." route and stuck with it. But, with all the blood mages and abominations in both games, then with Anders and Adrian I find it super hard not to think of the mages as dangers. I can not say the Andrastian way is the correct way in dealing with them though.There is speculation Andraste herself was a mage. But, they are dangerous and will resort to blood magic when they need to and that scares me. Orsino proved that much.
In my opinion, my anti-mage opinion (Yes, I admit it) Elthina was weakened by her years in the Chantry. She did not deserve her fate. She was also just a mere Grand Cleric, nothing compared to Justinia. (But the Sebastian "maker noooo..." made it golden) Justinia seems dangerous with her antics.
All in all, every player has opinions, idea's and what they consider to be good/bad/grey and I think that is what makes these games so good
If we throw the Warden out as a villain, I would much rather kill Hawke...just saying.
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She also saved Maric and Loghain. She is not what she seems, but I do not know what to think of her either... nor Morrigan for that matter. I would love to know. I would love to see a conclusion to the "Old God" baby (For those that took the cheap route :innocent:,<--me) and to see him revealed as either companion/villain or maybe just cameo's such as Cullen. I can not see Morrigan up to any good though, even though I genuinely like her...
Flemith ties to everything it seems. But why and how, we do not know...YET?!? Seems nearly everything is left without answers (Ehemmm like where my Warden is...no, I will never be over that lol)
Gaider did say that, I am very inclined to agree. Had there been more mages like Bethany, I am sure I would have formed a better opinion of them, or had Grace not ended up being a horrid wench. Maybe they make up for this in DA3?
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xxLDZxx wrote...
Hawk is the villain, we created him we destroy him! His companions are mini Bose's.
The kid of the Grey warden and morigan will be the hero we play.
Maybe we side with hawk or maybe we kill him.
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Poshible wrote...
Cullen is always so dense. Maric is always wishful thinking. I wonder if the The Silent Grove will play into DA3? I never kill Morrigan either...the devs could go any which way--so many different possible set ups without it being really tied town to anything. I think Morrigan lingers in our minds because she is so shrouded with mystery. I still want to know what she left at the end of witch hunt lol
On that note, I would LOVE Hawke to be the villain, only if I get to kill him/her and with The Warden because it seems only that bad things happen around Hawke. Hawke is the epicenter of drama. But unless your Hawke was a mage, there is nothing special about him/her.
Jasmine96 wrote...
Poshible wrote...
Cullen is always so dense. Maric is always wishful thinking. I wonder if the The Silent Grove will play into DA3? I never kill Morrigan either...the devs could go any which way--so many different possible set ups without it being really tied town to anything. I think Morrigan lingers in our minds because she is so shrouded with mystery. I still want to know what she left at the end of witch hunt lol
On that note, I would LOVE Hawke to be the villain, only if I get to kill him/her and with The Warden because it seems only that bad things happen around Hawke. Hawke is the epicenter of drama. But unless your Hawke was a mage, there is nothing special about him/her.
I think the silent grove has to do with what they reveal at the end of The Calling, you know with Maric and Fiona
I really wan't Morrigan to play a big part in DA3, The last time you see her in witch hunt she talks about how her baby has some sort of huge destiny in front of it
) I was hyped. "Oh my god, oh maker, is it to do with Maric? David Gaider you God!!"
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Poshible wrote...
Jasmine96 wrote...
Poshible wrote...
Cullen is always so dense. Maric is always wishful thinking. I wonder if the The Silent Grove will play into DA3? I never kill Morrigan either...the devs could go any which way--so many different possible set ups without it being really tied town to anything. I think Morrigan lingers in our minds because she is so shrouded with mystery. I still want to know what she left at the end of witch hunt lol
On that note, I would LOVE Hawke to be the villain, only if I get to kill him/her and with The Warden because it seems only that bad things happen around Hawke. Hawke is the epicenter of drama. But unless your Hawke was a mage, there is nothing special about him/her.
I think the silent grove has to do with what they reveal at the end of The Calling, you know with Maric and Fiona
I really wan't Morrigan to play a big part in DA3, The last time you see her in witch hunt she talks about how her baby has some sort of huge destiny in front of it
I am hoping. At the end of the first one (Which, yes, I got at midnight on release day
I am a bit concerned though, because it seems there will be no Theirin heir (so sad)...unless you do have the OGB and yeah let's admit it--that story would be epic. Great way to being Tevinter into the fold? Just saying...
What corrupts the Old Gods is the darkspawn (The taint itself). If they are not tainted they are not evil--and thus no Blight. So I would think that the OGB would be a "good" guy. According to what Morrigan leaves you to think on. Maybe he will be the one to right the wrongs of the magisters? To summon The Maker? Just a thought.
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Poshible wrote...
"Old Gods who had ordered them (the magisters) to sin against the Maker..." I would probably die of happiness as well. I mean the OGB could summon and rival the maker. I would settle for answered questions though, really. I want Morrigan and Flemeth on opposing sides. One good, one bad and you make your own path...oh Bioware the possibilities are endless.
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I'll be honest... I know that Bioware confirmed it but for some sad sad sad reason (Which I hope that I am greatly wrong) Doubt we'll have a DA3. I don't know.. I've been waiting for some time now for a DLC. Any kind of update
on anything. Yet everything remain in silence. I don't think we could kick over a rock for an answer.
But it seem that Bioware are far more focus on books, anime, and ME3 than DA3 or DLC for DA2..
Perhaps it is me.. and I hope that I am wrong.
Back on topic: I would love to see the child of Morrigan to be some kind a villion or gives us something to fight.
DarkAmaranth1966 wrote...
Hawke? No he/sh was more a victim of circumstance than anything. I would like it to depend on the choices you made in both DAO and DA2.
Architect, Arishok, Sebastian, Branka, Anders, Carver, Any of them could be good villain as could Casandra or a completely new person we have yet to meet.
"He is EVIL because HE dose EVIL!!! THINGS!"
DRAGON AGE for a reason 
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