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Debate ON!

Since the Omni Blade is pretty much just a hologram...could it even block a lightsaber attack?  How does the OB even cut into people? Is it.... :wizard: MAGIC? 

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The Omni-blade is supposedly some type of particle things. Lightsabers cut through any material, at least they did until the authors decided they needed stuff for it to not cut through. I think the Lightsaber wins.

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Wait...
The omnitool is just an hologram?
Then where does the light comes in ME1 when c-sec was searching for Shep at the end of the game?
I always thought that it's made with some physical materials too...

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Lets see. Omni-blade is just a melee attack for a soldier who wants to either save ammo or finds that enemies are invading their personal space.

In Mass Effect, guns, tech powers, biotic powers and heavy melees are separate entities (although some heavy melees are tech powers and some heavy melees are biotic powers).

The lightsabre is a way of life. Lightsabre and force powers along with lightning (if you're a sith) are all inseparable. The lightsabre is part of a team of special abilities. The Jedi is one with the lightsabre, just as the Jedi is one with the force.

The intense discipline is what makes the powers work so well. The omni tool is just another trick up the soldier's sleeve. The lightsabre is part of a mighty badass team that will wreak havoc to anyone who comes close. Omni Blade doesn't stand a chance.

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El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Wait...
The omnitool is just an hologram?
Then where does the light comes in ME1 when c-sec was searching for Shep at the end of the game?
I always thought that it's made with some physical materials too...


It is. At least, I think so.

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Omni blade is a molecule thick carbon allotrope, created, suspended, and crushed into its formation by a mass effect field. Lightsabers are directed energy weapons. Mass Effect Barriers are known to offer very poor if any protection from directed energy weapons.

Lightsaber cuts through Mass Effect field and Omni-tool user alike.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Wait...
The omnitool is just an hologram?
Then where does the light comes in ME1 when c-sec was searching for Shep at the end of the game?
I always thought that it's made with some physical materials too...


It is. At least, I think so.


IIRC, it has a store of material that it can use to manufacture parts, that certainly suggests that it has some mass somewhere on the device.

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Laser-sword wins easily

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It's not a hologram at all.

Although melee-combat applications for the omni-tool are almost as old as the device itself, the feature was largely unused prior to the Reaper invasion. The need to take on multiple husks in close quarters forced the Alliance to develop ways to enhance the tool’s offensive capability.
The most common melee design is the “omni-blade,” a disposable silicon-carbide weapon flash-forged by the tool’s mini-fabricator. The transparent, nearly diamond-hard blade is created and suspended in a mass effect field safely away from the user’s skin. Warning lights illuminate the field so the searing-hot blade only burns what it is intended to: the opponent.
More technically-adept soldiers frequently modify their omni-tools to maximize stopping power through electrical, kinetic, or thermal energy. Some troops integrate the weapon with their kinetic barriers, transforming the omni-tool into a wrist-mounted bludgeon; others fabricate flammable gases, held in place by a mass effect field and ignited upon impact. All prove deadly surprises for opponents who expect a disarmed Alliance warrior.


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I think the Omni-Tool like most holographic things in ME is semi physical. It feels solid but when enough force is applied your hand will go through, becoming a complete hologram. Maybe that's how the omni-blade actually works? Honestly I don't really know.

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An omnitool is part hologram part nano tech using its own nano computer to run it. it is the hologram part you can see not the nano tech part.

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Edit:


Well, I wouldn't want to get hit with a blade so hot that it could cauterize the wound as it cut, then stay there since it's disposable.

Modifié par Praetor Shepard, 11 janvier 2012 - 11:40 .


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vanguard biotic punch > all

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As far as I can see you couldn't parry with an omni-blade, which seems like a pretty major disadvantage.

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If only we had an option/mod to make our Vanguard say "Ryuuuuu-ken" when we used the biotic Pawnch!

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Space ninja katana ignore protections.
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Even Biotics doesn't ignore protections.
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Space ninja katana better than Omniblade and Lightsaber, the only question just being why it is so rarely used that no even one teammate uses it.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Wait...
The omnitool is just an hologram?
Then where does the light comes in ME1 when c-sec was searching for Shep at the end of the game?
I always thought that it's made with some physical materials too...


It is. At least, I think so.


The novels describe omni-tools as physical things.


It's kinda weird actually: In the novels, the characters always actually grab their omni-tools from their pocket or their belt. And when they're done using the omni-tool, they put it back in their pocket or on their belt.

Yet in the video-games they just appear out of thin air and disappear just as quickly when the character is done using it. :?

Modifié par Luc0s, 11 janvier 2012 - 11:41 .


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A parry with the omni-blade IS possible, just against steak knives, swiss army knives, etc..

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I appologize, everyone. I really do. But everytime I see this, I feel obliged to mention it.

crimzontearz wrote...

vanguard biotic punch > all


Biotic fisting!

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The real debate would probably be over which would prevail; Biotics or the Force.

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Wulfram wrote...

As far as I can see you couldn't parry with an omni-blade, which seems like a pretty major disadvantage.


I don't see why we need to have space swashbuckling though, parrying with blades and all seems a bit unnecessary to me.

So I'm good using the omni-blade in a specifically lethal manner, like a dagger or a katara.

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Omni blades dont make WAAAAAAN Noises... so they will lose!

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Lightsaber is longer and lighter, plus you can throw it. Also I say the Jedi just cuts off the arm at the elbow anyway.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...
I appologize, everyone. I really do. But everytime I see this, I feel obliged to mention it.

crimzontearz wrote...
vanguard biotic punch > all

Biotic fisting!



Asari have been practicing and perfecting it for centuries.....of course human males have less slender hands

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Praetor Shepard wrote...

I don't see why we need to have space swashbuckling though, parrying with blades and all seems a bit unnecessary to me.


If the enemy is trying to stab you, then being able to parry him seems distinctly necessary.