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[1136342t54_]

Luc0s wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Still doesn't explain how omni-tools themselves actually work.

Why is it that the books/novels describe omni-tools as physical objects that physically needs to be stored away, while in the video-games they look like holographic projections that appears out of thin air when used?


It's not a retcon or anything, because in all 3 books the omni-tools are physical devices that needs to be physically stored away in a pocket or on a belt, yet in the games they look not physical at all and disappear in thin air when the user is done with it.

Then go read the codex. This about the Omni-Blade not the Omni-Tool itself. Plus the codex does essentially explain why it comes out of thin air. Some people actually have implants with in their hands and arms so they can use the Omni-Tool in any place at anytime or others where gloves. I'd bet a combat suit contains a Omni-Tool in the Gauntlet.

So the omni-tool is a glove?


I still find it weird how the omni-tools in the novels are described so differently than in the games/codex.

The books/novels really make you believe the entire tool is in fact physical. But they don't look that way in the games.

Its a mini facturing/computer/weapon that can be put into armor, glove, or implants. Just because it looks shiny doesn't mean it isn't physical dude.

Edit: Part of it seems to be holographic but it is also physical.

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 12 janvier 2012 - 12:53 .

[JBo796]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Comparison and analysis of the similarities and differences between the two technologies may make for a fine discussion, but as soon as this becomes a "which is better?" or "which would win in a fight?" discussion, it will get closed.

I'm not trying to be snarky or anything, but that's kind of what the thread title says...

^^ this

lol totally

uh oh..i'm in trooouuuuble:o

seriously though...the thing I love about ME vs Brother/Sister Make Out Wars Star War, is it seems way more realistic, like the weapons and everything.        That's a really good thought too about biotics vs the force.  

Are biotics from nanotechnology or how do you get them?  There's too much in ME for me to remember it all!

[Funkcase]

Omni-blade is better, as the Omni-tool is pretty much everything, a sheild, a computer, a weapon, it can even create fire or freeze people! A Lightsaber just cuts through things.

[1136342t54_]

 @Lucos 

This should also help.

Computers: Haptic Adaptive Interface

 Advances in computing have done away with traditional input devices like keyboards. Instead, modern input peripherals are usually holographically displayed in front of the user at a height and angle for ergonomic ease. Machines that use this interface detect a user through a microframe chip in the user's glove that "keys in" to the computer. Once a user is accepted, motion accelerometers in the user's gloves match his hands' location with that of a proportionate but smaller "mirror" set of controls inside the computer itself. As the user presses against the holographic field, force-feedback in the glove kicks in, giving a slight resistance. A person can feel his way through using a touch-screen that isn't actually there. A simple toggle switch on the back of the hands allows the glove to be turned off when not in use.Haptic interfaces have become so common that some individuals undergo cybernetic enhancement surgery to have the accelerometers implanted in their fingertips. "Going bareskin" is the sign of a committed computer user who no longer has to fuss with putting on gloves or cleaning them with alcohol wipes to get rid of the clammy-hand smell.

http://masseffect.wi...ptive_Interface

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 12 janvier 2012 - 12:56 .

[crimzontearz]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...
Very nice, very nice. +1

awwww mine was not?

Bogsnot has a special touch.

yeah my hands are definitely not slender as his


hehe

[The Spamming Troll]

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

Space ninja katana ignore protections.
+
Even Biotics doesn't ignore protections.
=
Space ninja katana better than Omniblade and Lightsaber, the only question just being why it is so rarely used that no even one teammate uses it.

yes. and liara will prolly have insta-singularity, something i know you and me both will complain about in the ME3 forums. if only ME1 allowed me to use those geth hoogram shields. imagin ME2 with deployable cover.........

lol.

anyways, the answer is the lightsaber. its an easy distinction.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 12 janvier 2012 - 01:20 .

[AlexXIV]

I'd prefer lightsaber over omniblade any day. Because lightsabers are cooler. I don't think it makes sense to compare them when they exist in different worlds only. If both lightsabers and ombiblades existed in the same universe lightsabers would probably be stronger because of rule of cool.

[Praetor Knight]

Ever since I first read that part of flash-forging and that the blade is made of silicon carbide, I've wondered how plausible that could really be.

So, I've finally googled some current info that I thought would be worth sharing here. And shows that the omni-blade is not so far-fetched at all.

Silicon carbide
3D printing
Sintering
superplastic forming

[hidden185]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Comparison and analysis of the similarities and differences between the two technologies may make for a fine discussion, but as soon as this becomes a "which is better?" or "which would win in a fight?" discussion, it will get closed.

lol Stanley Woo.  Actually I agree I would really enjoy to see what people think about the differences between lightsabers and omnitools.  As for me, I am a star wars n00b, so I don't think I can make a valid assessment.

Edit:  I am not laughing at you, I am laughing at the position you in right now of how you really like an discussion and want to support it, but at the same time have to be an arbitrar and neutral.

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Stanley Woo: None you moderators ever answer the pm I send you.  Are you even getting them? >->;

Modifié par hidden185, 12 janvier 2012 - 02:36 .

[mybudgee]

In B4 the lock!!

[KreeCapt]

Love both Universes and I think the Omni blade is cool, but the Lightsaber wins hands down.

[Bogsnot1]

We already have the technology to build a lightsabre plasma-sword (Parts 1, 2, 3), although we cannot currently manufacture the materials we need to do so. We cant say the same thing about the Omni-blade.

But why limit yourself to just one? Have both, that way when you cross lightsabres, and your standing there staring in each others eyes, you can whip out your omiblade on your offhand, and gut your opponent.

Remember boys and girls, there is no such thing as a gentleman's fight, only gentlemen fighting.

[100k]

Someone With Mass wrote...

It's not a hologram at all.

Although melee-combat applications for the omni-tool are almost as old as the device itself, the feature was largely unused prior to the Reaper invasion. The need to take on multiple husks in close quarters forced the Alliance to develop ways to enhance the tool’s offensive capability.
The most common melee design is the “omni-blade,” a disposable silicon-carbide weapon flash-forged by the tool’s mini-fabricator. The transparent, nearly diamond-hard blade is created and suspended in a mass effect field safely away from the user’s skin. Warning lights illuminate the field so the searing-hot blade only burns what it is intended to: the opponent.
More technically-adept soldiers frequently modify their omni-tools to maximize stopping power through electrical, kinetic, or thermal energy. Some troops integrate the weapon with their kinetic barriers, transforming the omni-tool into a wrist-mounted bludgeon; others fabricate flammable gases, held in place by a mass effect field and ignited upon impact. All prove deadly surprises for opponents who expect a disarmed Alliance warrior.

>diamond-hard blade is created and suspended in a mass effect field safely away from the user’s skin.
>and suspended in a mass effect field safely
> in a mass effect field

<_<<_<<_<<_<<_<<_<

C'mon Bioware. 

[Lotion Soronarr]

Blah...

at elast Star Trek had the decency to make their replicators big and slow (it would take several seconds to make a cup of tea).
These omni-tools create everyting in a milisecond out of nothing (and if there is some material storage I ain't seeing it. And it must be awfully small)

I hate omni-tool.s I hate omni-blades even more.

[darthnick427]

Lightsaber wins, Energy Sword from halo is second, Omni-Blade is third

[LGTX]

100k wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

It's not a hologram at all.

Although melee-combat applications for the omni-tool are almost as old as the device itself, the feature was largely unused prior to the Reaper invasion. The need to take on multiple husks in close quarters forced the Alliance to develop ways to enhance the tool’s offensive capability.
The most common melee design is the “omni-blade,” a disposable silicon-carbide weapon flash-forged by the tool’s mini-fabricator. The transparent, nearly diamond-hard blade is created and suspended in a mass effect field safely away from the user’s skin. Warning lights illuminate the field so the searing-hot blade only burns what it is intended to: the opponent.
More technically-adept soldiers frequently modify their omni-tools to maximize stopping power through electrical, kinetic, or thermal energy. Some troops integrate the weapon with their kinetic barriers, transforming the omni-tool into a wrist-mounted bludgeon; others fabricate flammable gases, held in place by a mass effect field and ignited upon impact. All prove deadly surprises for opponents who expect a disarmed Alliance warrior.

>diamond-hard blade is created and suspended in a mass effect field safely away from the user’s skin.
>and suspended in a mass effect field safely
> in a mass effect field

<_<<_<<_<<_<<_<<_<

C'mon Bioware. 

You know what the game is called?

[KadianK]

Arcadian Legend wrote...

I think the Omni-Tool like most holographic things in ME is semi physical. It feels solid but when enough force is applied your hand will go through, becoming a complete hologram. Maybe that's how the omni-blade actually works? Honestly I don't really know.

Read the posts above this one.

They're not Holographic at all. It just appears that way.

Enough force to go through the object would mean, it's useless as an "Omni-Blade".

[Mattepatteh]

A lightsaber would win over an Omni-Blade every day.

But I would rather own an omni-blade than a lightsaber!

[Merchant2006]

crimzontearz wrote...

vanguard biotic punch > all

Don't be too proud of this technological marvel you call Biotics. The ability to use Biotics is insignificant to the potential of the Force.