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[Phaedon]

Merchant2006 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

vanguard biotic punch > all

Don't be too proud of this technological marvel you call Biotics. The ability to use Biotics is insignificant to the potential of the Force.

All I see is an Imperial gentleman adjusting his shirt's collar. 
By golly, they do make them really tight these days.

What was this force thingy you were talking about again?

Modifié par Phaedon, 12 janvier 2012 - 11:27 .

[Merchant2006]

100k wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

It's not a hologram at all.

Although melee-combat applications for the omni-tool are almost as old as the device itself, the feature was largely unused prior to the Reaper invasion. The need to take on multiple husks in close quarters forced the Alliance to develop ways to enhance the tool’s offensive capability.
The most common melee design is the “omni-blade,” a disposable silicon-carbide weapon flash-forged by the tool’s mini-fabricator. The transparent, nearly diamond-hard blade is created and suspended in a mass effect field safely away from the user’s skin. Warning lights illuminate the field so the searing-hot blade only burns what it is intended to: the opponent.
More technically-adept soldiers frequently modify their omni-tools to maximize stopping power through electrical, kinetic, or thermal energy. Some troops integrate the weapon with their kinetic barriers, transforming the omni-tool into a wrist-mounted bludgeon; others fabricate flammable gases, held in place by a mass effect field and ignited upon impact. All prove deadly surprises for opponents who expect a disarmed Alliance warrior.

>diamond-hard blade is created and suspended in a mass effect field safely away from the user’s skin.
>and suspended in a mass effect field safely
> in a mass effect field

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C'mon Bioware. 

[meme image removed]

Edit: Whoops, this was supposed to be in my other post. Anyhow, I'll leave this here.

I admit, the Omni-blade details are... iffy at the least but tolerable. And vs. Lightsabers? Nope. Lightsabers win.

And @Jreezy... oh man, you know what I'm not even gonna reply man, it'd just kill the joke. Just... forget it. I'm not even going to argue or debate about your reply. Lol.

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 12 janvier 2012 - 05:59 .

[Phaedon]

Actually, I don't see the problem with the explanation. The blade is suspended using a mass effect field. What's wrong with that?

[Merchant2006]

Iffy as in "I'm a codex sponge and I want moar information." It's not a bad thing to be like that, but it's also not a good thing either

I admit, Omni-blades can slice and dice and heck, you can change them but... when it does come to melee comparisons, teh lightsaber iz slicey dicey.

[Dean_the_Young]

Phaedon wrote...

Actually, I don't see the problem with the explanation. The blade is suspended using a mass effect field. What's wrong with that?

The real question is...

Can we justify a mass effect field interfering with a lightsaber's own field? 

That's how many energy-blade weapons justify their ability to clash, after all: it's not the plasma/energy/light inside, but the fields containing them that parry eachother.



Of course, an Omnitool is like a one-man sith in its own right. Telekinetics! Lighting! Fire! An endless army of drones!

[Phaedon]

But, doesn't the lightsaber cut through most uh, things?

[LGTX]

Phaedon wrote...

But, doesn't the lightsaber cut through most uh, things?

Not everything, as you said. There's some minerals and stuff which are really rare that it can't penetrate. I think. Can't remember the deep lore stuff off the top of my head...

Modifié par LGTX, 12 janvier 2012 - 11:59 .

[Dominus]

For pure melee, I would vote lightsaber.

Due to the Omniblade also having all the Omni-Tool abilities directly connected to it, the Omni-Blade is the more versatile. If you could use the Halo 2 Sword Flying Trick, you'd have the element of surprise.

[Phaedon]

LGTX wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

But, doesn't the lightsaber cut through most uh, things?

Not everything, as you said. There's some minerals and stuff which are really rare that it can't penetrate. I think. Can't remember the deep lore stuff off the top of my head...

Me either. I do remember something about regular futuristic swords blocking them in KOTOR. But then I also remember complaints about that.

[Seagloom]

Lightsaber. Or better yet, a lightwhip. If I need to unlock a door or bust through a shield, I'll go all Devo and whip it good.

[Merchant2006]

jreezy wrote...

Merchant2006 wrote...
oh man, you know what I'm not even gonna reply man, it'd just kill the joke. Just... forget it. I'm not even going to argue or debate about your reply. Lol.

I'd prefer that considering all I did was reply to your post with no intentions of having a debate with you boy.

D:

[Dean_the_Young]

Phaedon wrote...

But, doesn't the lightsaber cut through most uh, things?

Like other lightsabers?

The conceit of an energy sword is that another energy sword can parry them. Since energy doesn't quite work like that, the force doing the parrying is the field, not the energy blad.

The reason that energy blads don't simply go through eachother is the fields block each other. All you need to justify parrying a lightsaber is, well, Mass Effect Fields ™.

[Dean_the_Young]

How do you think Reave siphons health from one person to another?

[Merchant2006]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

How do you think Reave siphons health from one person to another?

Giant invisible mass effect field generated straws.

[LGTX]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

How do you think Reave siphons health from one person to another?

What do you mean "how"? Why, mass effect fields of co-ohhh. I see what you did there.

You got me, fine...

[Lotion Soronarr]

tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MadeOfPhlebotinum

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Don't think about how ME shiny tech device works or where is its resource storage! It uses the air to create drones ... Nuff said!
BTW, Lightsaber is the greatest Idea of a futuristic melee weapon.

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Aaah yessss.. MASS EFFECT!

Modifié par Jedi Sentinel Arian, 12 janvier 2012 - 01:16 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

You disimssed that claim?

[Dean_the_Young]

LGTX wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

How do you think Reave siphons health from one person to another?

What do you mean "how"? Why, mass effect fields of co-ohhh. I see what you did there.

You got me, fine...

And Dominate! How does dominate work?

[xentar]

JBo796 wrote...
Since the Omni Blade is pretty much just a hologram...

A hologram is just composed of harmless light. Don't mistake the actual definition with the Star Trek definition where holograms were actually matter constructs. Mass Effect universe has no such technology, all tactile sensations are simulated either through gloves/other external devices or implants.

[LGTX]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

LGTX wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

How do you think Reave siphons health from one person to another?

What do you mean "how"? Why, mass effect fields of co-ohhh. I see what you did there.

You got me, fine...

And Dominate! How does dominate work?

Via an extremely elaborate lore mechanism which isn't stupid at all. It's really complex stuff, I don't know if I'll be able to articulate it all... 

[100k]

Phaedon wrote...

Merchant2006 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

vanguard biotic punch > all

Don't be too proud of this technological marvel you call Biotics. The ability to use Biotics is insignificant to the potential of the Force.

All I see is an Imperial gentleman adjusting his shirt's collar. 
By golly, they do make them really tight these days.

:happy::happy::happy:

[I-am-Biwinning]

Omni-blade vs light saber, I think the lightsaber would win simply because of range and maneuverability. However, if you consider that the blade, is only part of the omni-tool, and therefore change it to omni-tool vs lightsaber, then I would give the nod to the omni-tool. If someone is charging at you with a lightsaber, but you freeze them with a cryo blast, the range advantage of the lightsaber does nothing as you could simply run up and stab them in the face with your omni-blade.