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[DreGregoire]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Asch Lavigne wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

I'm still trying to decide if it'll be 'from darkspawn' again.

I think the MC of DA3 will be a refugee from the Qunari attack or the Mage/Templar Act 3 fiasco.

The wonderful thing about the darkspawn is that they can pop up everywhere.

Or you can just go underground and find them with no trouble. I mean the whole point is exploration (of caves in this instance). They'll have to be some darkspawn, they wouldn't take them from us. I hope! I mean every 'hero' in Thedas must be able to defeat darkspawn or they aren't much of a hero. LOL!

[InfinitePaths]

Tartan1456 wrote...

Morrigan thought she wanted immortality but she was wrong and Flemeth can turn into a dragon and all the archdemons were dragons meaning she could be an old god  and so when she put hawke in contact with Anders and cause the war she can now distract Thedas and start another Blight and everyone will be weak from the war but thats just my theory

Why the f-uck did she then help the warden to save ferelden from the Blight?

[SkittlesKat96]

I think its too far fetched that Flemeth had anything to do with Hawke's actions in DA 2, but I guess its still possible.

Flemeth can read the future and we still don't know much about the nature of Flemeth's future reading, maybe she can change the future and she delivered Hawke and his family to safety deliberately.

Personally I'm wondering what happened to Maric, he probably died but from the sounds of Flemeth's words to Maric it makes it seem like Maric is still alive and possibly has integrated himself into Orlesian society or something (as part of Flemeth's plan maybe?)

And last of all I wonder how strong Flemeth really is...

Its very possible that when she fought the Grey Warden she threw the fight. She wanted you to stop the Blight and from what we've seen in DA 2 she knew Morrigan would try and get her killed.

Also there is the possibility that when she splits herself into two she becomes weakened.

And there is the possibility that she was in a weakened state in DA:O. It was said that she was going to try and take over Morrigan's body (I don't think we have 100% proof this is true though, it probably is but who knows) maybe when she took over Morrigan's body she would be in her strongest state until she has to take over another body and she is back to being in her weakest form again. This is just speculation.

The Archdemon seems to be much stronger than Flemeth in her dragon form but if you consider even just one of the above options it kind of gives you the impression that Flemeth herself could probably solo an Archdemon which is pretty cool.

It seems to be that Flemeth is done with Ferelden, I wonder what she is doing now...maybe she flew to Orlais or something, or to Par Vollen. I guess we'll just wait and see.

Modifié par SkittlesKat96, 13 février 2012 - 09:39 .

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I get the feeling that the way things turned out in Kirkwall is how Flemeth wanted them and that the world falling into chaos and war is one step in her plan.

[Wulfram]

HeriocGreyWarden wrote...
 Why the f-uck did she then help the warden to save ferelden from the Blight?

Perhaps she was only carrying out a cunning plan to stop Loghain from saving Fereldan from the Blight.

Which didn't turn out too well.

edit: or perhaps she didn't want Urthemiel to succeed.  The Old Gods don't necessarily work in concert

Modifié par Wulfram, 13 février 2012 - 07:40 .

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Well Flemeth seemed to be pretty clearly at odds with the blight in the first game. Her motives for stopping Urthemiel wouldn't necessarily need to be more complicated than that.

[HeroxMatt]

Dave of Canada wrote...

"Do I really look like a woman with a plan, Hawke? I don't have a plan. The Orlesians have plans, the Templar have plans. You know what I am, Hawke? I'm an unexplained horror chasing an unknown goal. I wouldn't know what to do with it if I realized it. I just DO things."

Flemeth in  The Dark Champion, one of the finest bard tales in Kirkwall.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Flemeth is to the Dragon Age what the Joker was to Nolan's "The Dark Knight."

[Palace]

I honestly thought that Flemeth's appearence was just a cameo.

[Vit246]

Plan?

There is no plan.

Bioware is now just recklessly throwing stuff in without really thinking about them. DA2 Flemeth is just a useless worthless cameo and nothing more.

Modifié par Vit246, 17 février 2012 - 01:08 .

[Urazz]

maxernst wrote...

Flemeth featured prominently in DA2's marketing, but her main effect on the game appears to be bringing Hawke to Kirkwall.  Perhaps she foresaw that he would meet Varric and go into the Deep Roads to collect the idol, and that that would also put him in contact with Anders, who would spark the big war...but she didn't really do anything to bring those things about.  The only companion she directly brought in touch with Hawke was Merrill.  And with Merrill posessing the Eluvian, I can postulate that Flemeth wanted her to complete her work because Flemeth might then be able to use the Eluvian to go after Morrigan.  But there's no ending that allows Merrill to succeed, so if that was her plan, it didn't work.  Of course, that theory begs the question of why Flemeth can't take the Eluvian from Merrill and finish the job herself, so maybe Merrill's Eluvian didn't matter to Flemeth.

Still, it bothers me that whereas in DA:O, it's very clear what she sought from saving the Warden, it's far from clear what she gained from saving Hawke.  Even if you assume that she wanted the mage/Templar war, Hawke's role in its inception seems incidental rather than pivotal.

DA2 was more of a transitional game for the overall plot of things in thedas.  It set up Thedas for the mage/templar war and it set things up to show that Flemeth isn't dead, how she avoided death, and is up to something (we don't know what exactly) beyond the old god baby.

[dragonflight288]

Flemeth is Flemeth. Enough said about it. She does things for her own reasons. Morrigan said that one of the biggest lessons Flemeth ever taught her is that one must survive.

Flemeth's whole thing with the amulet and sending Hawke to Merethari (who was right there at Kirkwall, where Hawke was headed anyway) was a backup plan in case the Warden killed Flemeth at the behest of Morrigan.

Anything after that however, is completely unknown. She has her own agenda and she'll do anything to achieve it. I don't know what she is. I don't know how old she is, and I have no idea what she's planning, but I do know one thing. She'll prioritize surviving rather than choose a side. And if anyone threatens it, she'll kill them.

[Megaton_Hope]

... Way I read events, her plan succeeded. The plan, that is, to smuggle a Horcrux out of town in case Harry showed up to kill her.

[Carmen_Willow]

BubbleDncr wrote...

Tartan1456 wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...

Perhaps Flemeth isn't quite done with Hawke. And that Hawke, as a person of influence and infamy, will still be needed - will still be a piece placed on the grand chessboard..

I agree,  she might manipulate Hawke into using his/her influence for her evil ways.

Since when is Flemeth evil?

We all assume she's evil, because she's super crazy powerful with mysterious motives, but she's only ever helped us out.

The best we can definitively say is that she's self-serving.

This.  And this:

I think Flemeth is beyond good and evil.  She doesn't think in terms of "good and evil," she understands that those concepts are siamese twins, bound together.  She is neither a helper nor a hinderer of sentinent kind. Chess masters sacrifice pawns all the time, or help a pawn become a Queen. It depends on the game and the moves left on the board. As a mistress of the Game, she deploys her pieces, sacrificing some and saving others. What she wins or loses is anyone's guess.

[Augustei]

She has the power of foresight, maybe she foresaw Hawkes actions would help to bring about the Mage/Templar war and maybe that was her plan all along... Would be quite a twist if she was weakening Thedas to prepare for the rearrival of the Magisters and the second rise of Tevinter. and she's really a Tevinter Loyalist / Loyal to Corypheus &/or the Architect.. Or is a Tevinter god trying to bring about the Imperiums rise again for w/e reason

[BomimoDK]

Flemeth=Elminster. It will all be clear in the 7th installment. Trust me.

[BomimoDK]

Megaton_Hope wrote...

... Way I read events, her plan succeeded. The plan, that is, to smuggle a Horcrux out of town in case Harry showed up to kill her.

You do know that the concept behind Horcrux wasn't Rowling's big idea. This should be obvious since the rest of her universe is heavily based on a multitude of other mythological elements.

[DV-01]

Flemeth is marketable and iconic yes, but for a start she simply needed transportation or a failsafe because she understood the possibility that her daughter would attempt to kill her. It's a pretty simple transaction. Beyond that, unbridling mages from templar control, what witch wouldn't want that if she could see that far. If she's an old god, then her ways are beyond the narrative of one single story.