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[Ryzaki]

Adugan wrote...
Sadly, I dont do console. Too clunky for me, and no mod support. However, I will... legitimately install Origin and play ME3 on PC. 

Eh I don't tend to mod in ME...I just use gibbed for resources and saves and that can be done on Xbox thankfully.

Still it's gonna suck.

[goofyomnivore]

I feel like these questions should be bumped. I haven't seen them asked in quite a few pages. Hope you guys can get an answer on these questions;

IsaacShep wrote...

To Chris Priestly:

1) If we do not intend to use multiplayer, can we uninstall Origin after completing one time single authorization for the single player game?

2) Also, will I have to install Origin EVERY TIME I install Mass Effect 3, or after one time single authorization I will no longer have to install Origin ever again?

Modifié par strive, 15 janvier 2012 - 04:32 .

[Adugan]

sackyhack wrote...

Wow, they unstickied this. I'm not in the Origin hate camp but I get the feeling they're kinda ashamed of the negative reaction this got and are hoping the thread will die by itself. As much as I think people are over-reacting to Origin, I'd be much happier if I didn't have to deal with the extra hurdle. I think this topic is still full of really important information and answers the questions people have been asking for months, so there's really no logical explanation for why they don't want this stickied other than shame. Make sure to keep bumping this until Monday so they actually see it once they're back in the office.

This thread isnt sinking on its own anytime soon.


Relix: Ninja'd! 

Modifié par Adugan, 15 janvier 2012 - 04:33 .

[Relix28]

sackyhack wrote...

Wow, they unstickied this. I'm not in the Origin hate camp but I get the feeling they're kinda ashamed of the negative reaction this got and are hoping the thread will die by itself. As much as I think people are over-reacting to Origin, I'd be much happier if I didn't have to deal with the extra hurdle. I think this topic is still full of really important information and answers the questions people have been asking for months, so there's really no logical explanation for why they don't want this stickied other than shame. Make sure to keep bumping this until Monday so they actually see it once they're back in the office.

Don't worry, it's gonna be bumped up until it's closed.

Edit: *sigh* I always get ninja'd.    Stupid ninjas.

Modifié par Relix28, 15 janvier 2012 - 04:34 .

[Rockworm503]

jreezy wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

I have two pre-orders. I win.

I'm going to go pre-order it 5 times just so I can cancell it

Even though you're cancelling it that's 5 pre-orders. This guy wins.

Indeed 5 pre-orders and cancels I win both sides 

[izmirtheastarach]

jreezy wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

I have two pre-orders. I win.

I'm going to go pre-order it 5 times just so I can cancell it

Even though you're cancelling it that's 5 pre-orders. This guy wins.

Okay, I just hit one-click order 12 times. Am I a good boy?

[charmingcharlie]

SirLysander wrote... As I said, *I* found Microsoft's offer for their service at a particular price acceptable.  It sounds like you do not.  All consumers are different.

This whole thing started because some guy wanted to know why he has to pay for xbox live even though he hasn't paid for xbox live and he wanted to know why Microsoft wouldn't listen to him.  I merely explained the reason why Microsoft charge when NONE of their competitors do is because not enough people are willing to say "NO I won't pay for a service that millions of others get for free".

I don't care if you find the price reasonable I was merely pointing out the reason why Microsoft ignores those that don't pay is because A) there aren't enough people not paying and there are too many people willing to pay.

SirLysander wrote... My recollection of your earlier post was along the lines that GFWL broke down partly because the quality of the games offered through it.  Had the games offered through it been of much higher quality, or in stronger demand, then it's quite possible it might not have broken down (or, broken down as soon as it did).  Poor planning and poor execution are deplorable, but not necessarily moronic.  Then again, there's the saying that one should not ascribe to malace what can be equally said to arise from stupidity.

The initial situation with GFWL was such that a fee to use it meant most PC gamers ignored it after all why pay for an inferior service when there were vastly superior services available for free.  GFWL did not suffer because of lack of quality it had some major hitters such as GTA 4 and Fallout 3 yet eventually Rockstar and Bethseda ditched GFWL in favour of Steam.  The GFWL service died on the PC for many reasons but all of them can be attributed to the fact PC gamers saw the service and what it was offering and said NO.

SirLysander wrote...  I like the 'put your money where your mouth is' quote - because that's what business is all about.  On the other hand, I do not expect someone provide me a good or service for my benefit or enjoyment without knowing they are expecting some benefit(usually by remuneration i.e. money) or an otherwise exchange of goods or services, although the latter is far more rare than the former.  I don't have a problem with XBox Live or, at present, it's price, thus I see no reason to change or terminate the present arrangement. 

I expect value for money, if a company wants my money they better work damn hard for it.  After all I certainly worked damn hard for my money.  Now when I see company A) offering a free superior service and company  charging me for a worse service why in gods name should I buy company B's service ?

The same goes for Origin, it is in no way shape or form anywhere close to being anything that Steam is.  The service lacks several basic features that a download client should have (such as a backup facility).  So why should I give my £60 to EA so they can shove their inferior service down my throat ?  Yes I will quite happily miss out on Mass Effect 3 but another company will benefit when I spend my money on their products rather than EA's.  Now if enough people do that then you might find EA think about changing it's ways.  That is why I say put your money where your mouth is.

[Relix28]

jreezy wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

I have two pre-orders. I win.

I'm going to go pre-order it 5 times just so I can cancell it

Even though you're cancelling it that's 5 pre-orders. This guy wins.

Okay, I just hit one-click order 12 times. Am I a good boy?

Took the lead. Anyone else want to top 12? I'm sticking with 1 so I don't have a chance.

I accept and raise it to 24 pre-orders from 5 different shops. So that's like 29 pre-orders.

[Computer_God91]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

Hooray, Origin is required. Now it's my turn to say I'm cancelling my pre-order. Thanks Bioware, you just saved me $80. Guess Shep just died at the end of ME2. To me there is no ME3.

Oh no there is, you just won't play it. In which case, YouTube is your friend.

He can watch me play it if he likes. Just trying to be helpfull.

I'm not watching anyone play ME3. the best case scenario is I barrow a friends xbox copy. The worst case.. well let's not talk about it. Bioware and EA gave me the finger so I cause the only way to give it back is to not buy the game.

[Rockworm503]

charmingcharlie wrote...

As far as the GFWL issue goes I really got angry when I lost my saves to Batman Arkham City.  It seems like its the steam version that is affected but the theory is that its a mix of GFWL and Steam and it seems to be around 80% of full completion when your save files disappear.
Thanks microsoft for that.

[Dragoonlordz]

jreezy wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

I have two pre-orders. I win.

I'm going to go pre-order it 5 times just so I can cancell it

Even though you're cancelling it that's 5 pre-orders. This guy wins.

Okay, I just hit one-click order 12 times. Am I a good boy?

Took the lead. Anyone else want to top 12? I'm sticking with 1 so I don't have a chance.

Based on real life money and real pre-orders which actually will pay for.. No I can't beat 12, I have to stick to 3.

I guess I humbly bow my head in defeat on this one.

[izmirtheastarach]

Rockworm503 wrote...

As far as the GFWL issue goes I really got angry when I lost my saves to Batman Arkham City.  It seems like its the steam version that is affected but the theory is that its a mix of GFWL and Steam and it seems to be around 80% of full completion when your save files disappear.
Thanks microsoft for that.

That's a "feature".

[iceViper]

Will no longer be purchasing any further Bioware products. I miss the Bioware from Edmonton that cared about it's customers...

[NubXL]

Rockworm503 wrote...

charmingcharlie wrote...

As far as the GFWL issue goes I really got angry when I lost my saves to Batman Arkham City.  It seems like its the steam version that is affected but the theory is that its a mix of GFWL and Steam and it seems to be around 80% of full completion when your save files disappear.
Thanks microsoft for that.

I had that issue with AC, too.  Lost my file after about 15 hours and 40%.  Uninstalled after finding a terrible lack of community/dev communication and no solution in sight.

That's one feather in EA's cap.  At least Origin isn't as bad as GFWL.

Modifié par NubXL, 15 janvier 2012 - 04:43 .

[VoteSkipper]

its ok to release your game on origin and compete with steam, its all good and fair, but dont spread lies about steam that it restricts developers from "reaching out" to their consumers, Valve has a very good reputation and it helped out indie developers, and the fact that this thread has been unsticked proves that people are pissed

i ask that bioware to stay out of politics and sticks to making games, you dont see naughty dog posting on their forums claiming Microsoft/Xbox restricts us from blah blah so we went for ps3 uncharted only, right?

[Computer_God91]

Chris Priestly wrote...

However, I really do not accept the criticism that WE, BioWare and EA, are wrong for not offering it on Steam. We would like to offer it on Steam. We used to have a good relationship with Steam. The more stores and digital retailers who sell our games, the more customers can buy the games and the money we can make. We are working with digital retailers like Direct2Drive and others so we are not Origin exclusive by any means. Unfortunately, Steam changed their policies and we are currently not able to come to an agreement that allows us to be on Steam. We were on Steam for ME2. We were on Steam for Dragon Age II until we had to remove it, again because Steam changed their policies. We would be on Steam now if their policies allowed us to be there. I do not know if a significant number of fans complaining to Steam that they want Mass Effect 3 to be on Steam will have an effect or not, but it certainly will not hurt. Steam is a great service and I would hope that we will work with them if it becomes possible for us to do so.

Then why would Bioware and/or EA require a program that has gotten alot of hate? you guys have to know that lost you sales. Smart business decision.

[Rockworm503]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

As far as the GFWL issue goes I really got angry when I lost my saves to Batman Arkham City.  It seems like its the steam version that is affected but the theory is that its a mix of GFWL and Steam and it seems to be around 80% of full completion when your save files disappear.
Thanks microsoft for that.

That's a "feature".

Yea I just wish I had it on Xbox maybe they'd charge me for the privalige of deleting my saves 

[Rockworm503]

VoteSkipper wrote...

its ok to release your game on origin and compete with steam, its all good and fair, but dont spread lies about steam that it restricts developers from "reaching out" to their consumers, Valve has a very good reputation and it helped out indie developers, and the fact that this thread has been unsticked proves that people are pissed

i ask that bioware to stay out of politics and sticks to making games, you dont see naughty dog posting on their forums claiming Microsoft/Xbox restricts us from blah blah so we went for ps3 uncharted only, right?

LOL Naughty Dog is owned by Sony.

[Adugan]

jreezy wrote...

iceViper wrote...

Will no longer be purchasing any further Bioware products. I miss the Bioware from Edmonton that cared about it's customers...

Once again "shooting the messenger". BioWare has nothing to do with this.

They sort of do. I mean, they knew what they were getting into when they sold themselves to EA. Whats happening to BW has already happened to Westwood/EA C&C team.

[izmirtheastarach]

Rockworm503 wrote...

VoteSkipper wrote...

its
ok to release your game on origin and compete with steam, its all good
and fair, but dont spread lies about steam that it restricts developers
from "reaching out" to their consumers, Valve has a very good reputation
and it helped out indie developers, and the fact that this thread has
been unsticked proves that people are pissed

i ask that bioware
to stay out of politics and sticks to making games, you dont see naughty
dog posting on their forums claiming Microsoft/Xbox restricts us from
blah blah so we went for ps3 uncharted only, right?

LOL Naughty Dog is owned by Sony.

Just paid the $200 for a PS3 so I could play those games. Exclusives suck.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 15 janvier 2012 - 04:49 .

[VoteSkipper]

Rockworm503 wrote...

VoteSkipper wrote...

its ok to release your game on origin and compete with steam, its all good and fair, but dont spread lies about steam that it restricts developers from "reaching out" to their consumers, Valve has a very good reputation and it helped out indie developers, and the fact that this thread has been unsticked proves that people are pissed

i ask that bioware to stay out of politics and sticks to making games, you dont see naughty dog posting on their forums claiming Microsoft/Xbox restricts us from blah blah so we went for ps3 uncharted only, right?

LOL Naughty Dog is owned by Sony.

oh my bad, ok how about epic games? scratch naughty dog, but you know what even bioware is owend by EA

damn, poor bioware, sorry about that, i take it back