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[Icinix]

Ryzaki wrote...

Adugan wrote...
Pfft. I am a desklamp.

Oooh! And to make this ontopic!

If EA sold geth desklamps with the retail copy of the game since it required origin that'd be awesome. Little Legion lamps. <3 

I do believe that was one of the ideas in the Uber Collectors Edition Thread.

Shame it never eventuated.

[Ryzaki]

Adugan wrote...
There WERE plans to make an uber collectors edition, but EA scrapped that. The lamp could have been part of the box, what a shame.

Only way I'd consider anything an uber collectors edition is if it didn't have necessary origin. :innocent:

@Icinix : NOOOOOOOOO! D: 

My poor heart!

(also I love how the origin news happened on Friday the 13th. ) 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 15 janvier 2012 - 06:35 .

[Adugan]

Ryzaki wrote...

Adugan wrote...
There WERE plans to make an uber collectors edition, but EA scrapped that. The lamp could have been part of the box, what a shame.

Only way I'd consider anything an uber collectors edition is if it didn't have necessary origin. :innocent:

Regular retail box for $150: No Origin required!

[shepskisaac]

I'm waiting for Uber Trilogy edition, without Origin of course.

Ryzaki wrote...

(also I love how the origin news happened on Friday the 13th. )

I don't know whether tro laugh or to cry

Modifié par IsaacShep, 15 janvier 2012 - 06:36 .

[Ryzaki]

Adugan wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Adugan wrote...
There WERE plans to make an uber collectors edition, but EA scrapped that. The lamp could have been part of the box, what a shame.

Only way I'd consider anything an uber collectors edition is if it didn't have necessary origin. :innocent:

Regular retail box for $150: No Origin required!

...I'm not sure if it's sad or not that I'd seriously consider buying that.

@Issac: Laugh...laugh so you don't drown in the tears.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 15 janvier 2012 - 06:37 .

[Incognito JC]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

What do you guys think I am, male or female?

This has actually been a topic of discussion a couple times before here on BSN.

Male.

[Adugan]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Adugan wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Adugan wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

His?

I really sound that much like a dude?

Nah my issue is the bloatware I'm not using. Steam was tolerable, GFWL was damned annoying, Origin will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

Of course chances are I'll cave and download it anyway but honestly I'm getting frustrated.

Lol you DO have a picture of a guy as your avatar. Can you blame people for thinking you are?

Should I assume you're a geth? 

Plus said dude has part of his chest exposed in a teasing manner. Surely that hints more in the eye candy vicinity.

Pfft. I am a desklamp.

What do you guys think I am, male or female?

This has actually been a topic of discussion a couple times before here on BSN.

Best of both worlds imo.

[Incognito JC]

Adugan wrote...

Best of both worlds imo.

Ah.. so that was a trick question? I see I see..

[IliyaMoroumetz]

IsaacShep wrote...

The new Steam policy is simple. They want publishers to offer DLC through Steam as well. Nothing to do with exclusivity or anything like that. The publishers can sell their games and their DLC anywhere else they wish for whatever price they wish. But if they want to sell games on Steam, then Valve wants them to also offer DLC to these games for sale on Steam. Not like it was with ME2 (which was before policy change) where you could buy the game from Steam but the DLC was purchasable only outside Steam.

This here is the solution!

Seriously, EA can afford to take the hit, and an extremely minor one, if they were to offer thier DLC on Steam.

You want to know why it's a good idea?

Because Steam is conveinient!

You know the Bioware store and points associated with it?  Not conveinient.  In fact, it's pretty stinkin' clunky and awkward!

I am sure that they'd get more sales of their DLC if they just swallowed their damn pride and let Valve in on that than had they continued this petty course.

[Splinter Cell 108]

Moondoggie wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...


Yes, many of us have invested time, money and effort in Mass Effect. ME3 maybe the epic conclusion, the grand finale, whatever. Do you really think allowing EA to steal my information is worth that? I don't and the reason why EA wouldn't give a damn is exactly what you are saying. If everybody just gives in just to play Mass Effect 3 then it will prove EA that it can do whatever it wants and get away with it.

What information could they possibly be interested in from you? Have something to hide?

And you are aware that on a daily basis you let several third parties steal your information right? You are constantly being monitored. I bet you have a Facebook too which not only means Facebook monitors you but several third parties too through apps you use on facebook and profiles you befriend and they have been found to share your information with other parties in several cases.

So you are already letting all sorts of people get away with invading your privacy and get away with it. And they are much more invasive than EA will ever be.

I have nothing to hide but like many others have said I don't want EA scanning my things, it is simply a matter of privacy. It's like having strangers in your house all day long looking at what you are doing IMO. Yes unfortunately I do have facebook, I wish I didn't but it is a necessity to be in contact with my friends and before you assume anything I barely post in it or put any pictures of myself in it, quite frankly Facebook is a waste of time and a gimmick. This is simply an opinion, I don't want EA or any other company looking at my information even if it is just PC specs or game data besides I use my PC for much more than just gaming. 

Another issue that comes to mind is EA's past, EA's history is a dirty one especially when dealing with customers. As a result I don't trust them even if they aren't as bad as they used to be. 

Modifié par Splinter Cell 108, 15 janvier 2012 - 06:53 .

[yoursystemsucks]

Probably won't be buying the game either, if it requires Origin.
Not only because of the EULA issues, but because I don't want my digital copies of games spread over more than one system, and I use Steam.

Origin is simply too late to be of any interest. Really hope this isn't a sign of things to come with Bioware games.

[Finwik]

That is exactly what this is a sign of. I stopped buying ubisoft because of their crap, I'm heart broken that bioware has fallen to it as well.

[La Sangreal]

It's funny. I have a code to download BF3 for free. However, since it requires origin, I won't be playing it. So yeah, not even "FREE GAME" can get me to use it. Earn my trust first, EA. Just so you know, what you're doing right now, is the exact opposite of earning my trust.

[McNoguff]

Man, I love bioware. But I don't own DA2. And I guess I won't own ME3. You guys have every right to provide your content in whatever channels you choose, and I honestly don't judge your decision, but. I just have too large a library in Steam and too little patience for more than one front end/platform.

Maybe an ultimate, super-duper, ridiculous version will be released on Steam when Origin fails to make a long term dent in digital, and EA give up the ghost. On that fateful day, Bioware will once again have my money.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

I've decided to go ahead and see how bad origin is with the personal file scanning activity(curious).

Does it show a screen load up that says scanning this folder and these files or is it hidden from view ?

[Adugan]

Lol this thread kinda died down.

[Metalrocks]

maybe its already in here, but im not checking over 113 pages for that.
http://www.escapistm...-Miss-at-Launch

of course €A doesnt like steam, because steam knows how to treat a customer. €A wants to spy on everyone and to suck out as much money as they can from the customer. valve doesnt do that.

[xaliqen]

 I'm disappointed in the marketing double-speak in this announcement.

Here's my interpretation: EA are a bunch of monopolists who don't care about their customers.  The End.

[GamblorGodofYou]

I been reading this thread for a while and normally don't post. I own many bioware titles. I got ME1, ME2, DA:O, and DA2 on steam already. I bought all the DLC for ME2 through bioware. DA2 disappointed me so badly I gave up on it after I beat it.

I could see a way to handle DLC for ME3 like how arkham city nightwing or robin packs worked. You buy the DLC on steam and you get the cdkeys. However, since the game is a GFWL that service downloads the DLC to your machine instead. Steam didn't install those DLC packs. Steam could sell you DLC keys for ME3, but then you download it from bioware is how I would see it done.

Steam just offered the ability to buy it on their service. I only got nightwing/robin bundle when it went on Christmas sale on steam. I had to re-enter the new keys into batman gfwl overlay when it launched.

I won't be getting Mass Effect 3 since I would have to use Origin. I skipped battlefield 3 because of Origin and frankly the beta of BF3 didn't convince me.

I will likely play ME3 on a console from renting or borrowing it. It would be nice to see my character saves used in ME3 but that won't happen. Bioware isn't getting my money this time. I am sure ME wiki(s) will have all the story details I missed from not using my character saves.

Plus in this economy I am selective on how I spend my money now.

[Cats in Space]

ifander wrote...

Funny, considering the hassle that is installing DLC for Mass Effect 2. On Steam, with Fallout New Vegas for example, all your DLC is installed automatically. There's no need to run (in my case) fifteen consecutive installers before you can load up your old saves. So I'd say the best service to your customers in this case would be provided by Valve.

 

IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

The new Steam policy is simple. They want publishers to offer DLC through Steam as well. Nothing to do with exclusivity or anything like that. The publishers can sell their games and their DLC anywhere else they wish for whatever price they wish. But if they want to sell games on Steam, then Valve wants them to also offer DLC to these games for sale on Steam. Not like it was with ME2 (which was before policy change) where you could buy the game from Steam but the DLC was purchasable only outside Steam.

This here is the solution!

Seriously, EA can afford to take the hit, and an extremely minor one, if they were to offer thier DLC on Steam.

You want to know why it's a good idea?

Because Steam is conveinient! 

You know the Bioware store and points associated with it?  Not conveinient.  In fact, it's pretty stinkin' clunky and awkward!

I am sure that they'd get more sales of their DLC if they just swallowed their damn pride and let Valve in on that than had they continued this petty course. 

 

I didn't read all of this thread cause it's so long but these quotes sum up how I feel about the DLC issue.

Mass Effect 3 not being on Steam is a loss for alot of people. The reason why is because Steam is all about convenience. Mass Effect 3 not being on Steam isn't convenient for me so I will not be buying it. I was looking forward to continuing Shepard's journey but it appears it won't be happening anytime soon.  

I have bought all my PC games on Steam and see no reason to stop now.  I feel that Origin is nothing other than EA showing their greed and them wanting have a tough guy fight with Valve. They will lose because Valve seems to actually care about their customers and not just their money, in my opinion.  <3

[sherban1988]

I would like to applaud EA for the absolut stupidity of this decision.

I understand that software piracy must be fought and measures against it must be taken. However, this is not the way. It's obvious this Origin software is alieanating potential customers, who in the end choose not to buy the game, thus costing EA, and more importantly Bioware present and future clients.

While I'm not in any way under the impression that EA will use Origin to steal my credit card numbers, bank accounts, unreleased novels and whatever else I have on my PC, the fact that the bloody thing is on my system, taking notes, shall I say, on whatever I install, uninstall and use is enough to make me (and apparently others) say "pass".

The funny (read "stupid") thing is, EA are doing this to combat piracy, I'm guessing (that's at least part of the reason). Well, the only people they are hurting are people like me who would have bought the game. Those who pirate games won't suddenly decide to buy the thing. They'll just patiently wait for it to be hacked, and play it, interestingly enough, with less hassle than paying customers.
Once again, bravo EA. Bravo.

Modifié par sherban1988, 15 janvier 2012 - 07:31 .

[ArkkAngel007]

 The EULA did change to the best of my knowledge.  EA begins section 2. Consent to Collection and Use of Data with informing customers how they would never sell their information, nor ever use or install spyware on consumer's machines.  They will not share information without consent unless required by law or to enforce EA legal rights.

In addition, they go on to be clear that they collect non-personally identifiable information such as your IPA, operating system, Application usage (capitalization means Origin specifically?), software and its usage, and peripheral hardware. 

Skimming through, it seems the two year inactive account deletion statement has been removed, but I will have to look through a few more times to be sure.  

All in all, the EULA is much improved.  I still have issues with strict DRMs and Origin needs a lot of work to be as efficient and user-friendly as Steam, but I can deal with what it is for the time being.

There is one thing though I didn't notice before, and not sure if it was in previous iterations, but agreeing to EULA not only waives the right to a class action lawsuit (was aware of this), but now it seems you can't have a trial by jury either.  I realize that if EA breaches the EULA that the agreement is null and either form of legal action could be pursued, but the fact that it is a constitutional right to have a trial by jury makes this a rather rocky piece.  Then again, it has been a while since I looked into law or needed to read up on EULAs, so this may be rather common nowadays.

Anyways, I apologize for the paraphrasing.  The EULA should be updated somewhere, but if anyone wants the actual clause(s) put up, then I can find the time tomorrow to do so.  To be honest though, I doubt anyone cares that there were corrections or not.

[IliyaMoroumetz]

Cats in Space wrote...

I didn't read all of this thread cause it's so long but these quotes sum up how I feel about the DLC issue.

Mass Effect 3 not being on Steam is a loss for alot of people. The reason why is because Steam is all about convenience. Mass Effect 3 not being on Steam isn't convenient for me so I will not be buying it. I was looking forward to continuing Shepard's journey but it appears it won't be happening anytime soon.  

I have bought all my PC games on Steam and see no reason to stop now.  I feel that Origin is nothing other than EA showing their greed and them wanting have a tough guy fight with Valve. They will lose because Valve seems to actually care about their customers and not just their money, in my opinion.  <3

Well, to be fair, Valve is still a business and therefore have no real responsiblity to their customer base, case in point: Left 4 Dead 2, however, they are in a position where they can earn more goodwill from the consumer base with constant sales and promotions, in addition to Steam's conveinience.  So, Valve knows how to treat their customers better, even though they, and we, know we're buying tons of games at uber cheap prices.

I mean, this was me last Christmas Steam sale...
http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/659

EDIT:

And the most hilarious thing about all this is?  (Going back on Topic)

EA's blaming Valve for all this!  Not even Mystery Science Theater 3000 movies got that silly!

Modifié par IliyaMoroumetz, 15 janvier 2012 - 07:38 .