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[Pixieking]

Pupuppu wrote...

Hu, this thread was unstickied? Marketing team was not amused or no trust in the amazing Origin software? Why so shy about delivering the "best possible experience"?

They got fed up of tooting their own horn. You know that EA, always modest.

[ironman001]

That what EA and now Bioware think about they customers

[Nesher666]

Pupuppu wrote...

Hu, this thread was unstickied? Marketing team was not amused or no trust in the amazing Origin software? Why so shy about delivering the "best possible experience"?

+1

Bioware, this thread should be sticked whether the masses like these news or not.
They are news/updates regarding Mass Effect, and they are containing important facts about the online activation and DRM of ME3
.
So why not sticky this?
I might have an idea why you didn't do it, but it's still an important update, which deserves a sticky.

Modifié par Nesher666, 15 janvier 2012 - 11:48 .

[Lyssar]

Well, I am glad that there is finally a clear answer on the topic, even though I don't like it. I don't like it at all.

I canceled my pre-order weeks ago and now it will stay canceled. Too bad, I really wanted to play ME3, but not under these circumstances. I've always bought my games as hard copies and I will continue to do so, and I have no need for secondary programs like Origin. All I want is the option to choose what I install on my PC, but apparently this is too much to ask.
Is this what PC gaming for buying customers is coming to? It makes me sick.

There is a glimmer of hope that eventually they might change their mind, if sales show that forcing secondary programs on customers is not the way to proceed. I will hold on to that hope and pray that it will help me to stay strong and not to give in. Bioware games have always been among my favourites. It's hard to say no, but there is a limit to how far I am willing to go, or follow.

So long...
A frustrated ex-customer

[Rajat Taneja]

First of all:

What a douche move from E.A....I will make sure to find another way to "get the game", since they don't want my Steam-user money!

Second and can a Bioware person or ea please look at this and post a remark!

"If you have not used your Entitlements or Account for twenty four (24) months or more and your Account has associated Entitlements, your Entitlements will expire and your Account may be cancelled for non-use"

"Entitlements are defined as 'paid and free downloadable content, unlockable content, digital and/or virtual assets, rights of use tied to unlock keys or codes, serial codes and/or online authentication of any kind, in-game achievements and virtual or fictional currency."

[Metalrocks]

its hard to find the answer after 124 pages, but is a constant connection of origin required to play the SP only? or can i play it without origin spying on me wile i play the SP only?

[Pixieking]

Rajat Taneja wrote...

First of all:

What a douche move from E.A....I will make sure to find another way to "get the game", since they don't want my Steam-user money!

Second and can a Bioware person or ea please look at this and post a remark!

"If you have not used your Entitlements or Account for twenty four (24) months or more and your Account has associated Entitlements, your Entitlements will expire and your Account may be cancelled for non-use"

"Entitlements are defined as 'paid and free downloadable content, unlockable content, digital and/or virtual assets, rights of use tied to unlock keys or codes, serial codes and/or online authentication of any kind, in-game achievements and virtual or fictional currency."

Yeah, I honestly don't get why more people don't care about this. This is an actual way to remove games that you legally paid for. Just because you haven't logged into an account for 2 years, does not give them the right to take back the games you bought.

I'd like to see a shop that did that.

Modifié par Emoking, 15 janvier 2012 - 11:49 .

[Pixieking]

Metalrocks wrote...

its hard to find the answer after 124 pages, but is a constant connection of origin required to play the SP only? or can i play it without origin spying on me wile i play the SP only?

Still not been answered.

It might be like ME2, where you can close Origin and play the game

It will probably be like Battlefield 3, which requires Origin to be open at all times, even in singleplayer

(That is pure speculation, though)

Modifié par Emoking, 15 janvier 2012 - 11:51 .

[Pupuppu]

Rajat Taneja wrote...

"If you have not used your Entitlements or Account for twenty four (24) months or more and your Account has associated Entitlements, your Entitlements will expire and your Account may be cancelled for non-use"

"Entitlements are defined as 'paid and free downloadable content, unlockable content, digital and/or virtual assets, rights of use tied to unlock keys or codes, serial codes and/or online authentication of any kind, in-game achievements and virtual or fictional currency."

It's not that bad, because you can rebuy them again at any time. At least this is what the EA support offered me, when the Entitlement I bought (ok, it was 30 minutes and not 24 months ago) was not working.

[abaris]

Metalrocks wrote...

its hard to find the answer after 124 pages, but is a constant connection of origin required to play the SP only? or can i play it without origin spying on me wile i play the SP only?

Priestly say it's not. He also says, you can opt-out from the scanning. But and that's a big BUT, only from inside the game. That leaves room for all kind of things happening, since nobody knows what Origin is collecting up until that point.

They didn't clarify on that matter.

[docwavy]

Emoking wrote...

Metalrocks wrote...

its hard to find the answer after 124 pages, but is a constant connection of origin required to play the SP only? or can i play it without origin spying on me wile i play the SP only?

Still not been answered.

It might be like ME2, where you can close Origin and play the game

It will probably be like Battlefield 3, which requires Origin to be open at all times, even in singleplayer

(That is pure speculation, though)

C'mon its in the very first post people. <_< 
Single player = 1 time activation.  Multiplayer = constant internet connection
2) Is constant Origin connection required or is it a single one off authentication when the game is first installed. Is there also a limit to the number of installations available? Mass Effect 3 will require a one time, single authorization for the single player game. There is no limit to the number of installs. Playing Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer will require a constant connection.                          

[Lumikki]

Emoking wrote...

Metalrocks wrote...

its hard to find the answer after 124 pages, but is a constant connection of origin required to play the SP only? or can i play it without origin spying on me wile i play the SP only?

Still not been answered.

It might be like ME2, where you can close Origin and play the game

It will probably be like Battlefield 3, which requires Origin to be open at all times, even in singleplayer

(That is pure speculation, though)

As far I can tell you can play ME3 SP without constant connection.
You need how ever to install Origin client to activate the ME3 game.
We do know that ME3 MP does requires Origin client to play.

I don't think we know can Origin client be uninstall from computer after activation and still play ME3 SP?
(Does it required to be there when Game is started?)

Modifié par Lumikki, 15 janvier 2012 - 11:59 .

[Pixieking]

docwavy wrote...
C'mon its in the very first post people. <_< 
Single player = 1 time activation.  Multiplayer = constant internet connection
2) Is constant Origin connection required or is it a single one off authentication when the game is first installed. Is there also a limit to the number of installations available? Mass Effect 3 will require a one time, single authorization for the single player game. There is no limit to the number of installs. Playing Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer will require a constant connection.                          

Ah, yes, I getting confused with this:

Lumikki wrote...

I don't think we know can Origin client be uninstall from computer after activation and still play ME3 SP?
(Does it required to be there when Game is started?)

That still hasn't been answered.

Modifié par Emoking, 15 janvier 2012 - 12:01 .

[Pixieking]

Pupuppu wrote...

It's not that bad, because you can rebuy them again at any time. At least this is what the EA support offered me, when the Entitlement I bought (ok, it was 30 minutes and not 24 months ago) was not working.

"Rebuy" as in get a free replacement? Or "rebuy" in its true sense of paying for it again?

[Rajat Taneja]

I got battlefield 3 on origin and i have to be connected constantly, weather i play the single or multi player part of the game. Perhaps mass effect 3 will have the same situation. This whole thing stinks.
I dont really keep on useing origin. It lack 10 year of development compaired to steam. Heck, I'v been useing steam for such a long time now and wish to continue doing so. For me, these new developments in the industry are not to my liking. I'll pass on more than one platform.

[didymos1120]

The 24 months thing doesn't appear in their current TOS:

http://tos.ea.com/le...en/PC/#section4

Unless it's in some other document, they appear to have dropped it.

[Dovahzaan]

I just woke up and see this thread got unstickied. I don't know whether to laugh or...well I think I'm going to laugh.

[BAOBAB_AOTEAROA]

 

Chris Priestly wrote...


5) Is there an opt in or opt out clause for data collection?  
Users will be allowed to opt-out of Mass Effect 3 data collection from inside the game. 

Chris plese this is.....awful......such a PR trick ...for such important thing 


i hope i am wrong but as far as i know:

ORIGIN client starts collecting data immediately after installation, even before you lunch the game, actually before you even install it.
You have to install origin client before installing the game, therefore data will be collected anyway.

ehm i can opt out from what kind of data collection?
data that concern my playstyle, game class,deaths, hours played or my private data, collected from my program folder?
this has to be specified.

if this opt out clause regards only GAMEPLAY DATA then Chris you are just pulling my leg, in a horrible, horrible way...

actually, if that is the case, you are trying to circumvent some important issues for many PC customers  by selling an opt out clause for something totally different..... i hope i misunderstood the answer and in that case i will apologize

i have to say i have nothing against origin as a new gameclient, but i have problems with it's implemantation of data collecting.

is it true that ORIGIN only collects data from this folder Chris :
ProgramData/Origin folder ?
by that what is  meant: Origin folder contained in program data or actually both folders?

i would like to know also what other windows folder are analyzed, in the case that origin doesn't stop at the folder containing EA games


i hope you can answer these questions, as the answers will play a big part in my purchase of ME3 and actually of any future Bioware game.

thanks.

Modifié par BAOBAB_AOTEAROA, 15 janvier 2012 - 12:07 .

[CroGamer002]

Dovahzaan wrote...

I just woke up and see this thread got unstickied. I don't know whether to laugh or...well I think I'm going to laugh.

Why would you laugh?

[Northborn]

My main concern is the fact that Origin forces games into the local IP language.

For example, I live in Quebec, where the local language is french, but I *HATE* playing in french, and refuse to pay for french titles. Its a language I both despise and where translations are almost universally horrible.

An other example, a friend of mine currently lives in the Netherlands where the local language is dutch. She, however, doesn't speak or read a single word of dutch. Yet this terrible "feature" forces her to play her origin-based games in dutch.

Not only is this a terribly flawed feature, it goes as far as stifling human rights. I have the right to buy and play my games in the original language, no matter where we have to be in the world at the time of purchase.

For this reason, and this REALLY pains me, as I was dying to play Mass Effect 3, I will have to opt out of the situation until Electronic Arts has the intelligence to include a language selection option. Which I fear will never come.

EA's Origin is a plague on the future of gaming.

Signed, sincerily distressed costumer.

Modifié par Jep13, 15 janvier 2012 - 12:16 .

[Aargh12]

Pupuppu wrote...

It's not that bad, because you can rebuy them again at any time. At least this is what the EA support offered me, when the Entitlement I bought (ok, it was 30 minutes and not 24 months ago) was not working.

Why the hell would I pay again for something I've already bought and should be working fine? It's my right as a consumer to use the product whenever I want. I want to be able to play the damn game even 10 years later if I choose to do so.

[Candidate 88766]

BAOBAB_AOTEAROA wrote...

 

Chris Priestly wrote...


5) Is there an opt in or opt out clause for data collection?  
Users will be allowed to opt-out of Mass Effect 3 data collection from inside the game. 

Chris plese this is.....awful......such a PR trick ...for such important thing 


i hope i am wrong but as far as i know:

ORIGIN client starts collecting data immediately after installation, even before you lunch the game, actually before you even install it.
You have to install origin client before installing the game, therefore data will be collected anyway.

ehm i can opt out from what kind of data collection?
data that concern my playstyle, game class,deaths, hours played or my private data, collected from my program folder?
this has to be specified.

if this opt out clause regards only GAMEPLAY DATA then Chris you are just pulling my leg, in a horrible, horrible way...

actually, if that is the case, you are trying to circumvent some important issues for many PC customers  by selling an opt out clause for something totally different..... i hope i misunderstood the answer and in that case i will apologize

i have to say i have nothing against origin as a new gameclient, but i have problems with it's implemantation of data collecting.

is it true that ORIGIN only collects data from this folder Chris :
ProgramData/Origin folder ?
by that what is  meant: Origin folder contained in program data or actually both folders?

i would like to know also what other windows folder are analyzed, in the case that origin doesn't stop at the folder containing EA games


i hope you can answer these questions, as the answers will play a big part in my purchase of ME3 and actually of any future Bioware game.

thanks.

There's no proof that Origin collects data from anything other than its own folder.

Not any more at any rate. It used to, as shown in the old screenshots of it, but that changed last August.

[Candidate 88766]

didymos1120 wrote...

The 24 months thing doesn't appear in their current TOS:

http://tos.ea.com/le...en/PC/#section4

Unless it's in some other document, they appear to have dropped it.

This deserves to be quoted.