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[GirlPower23]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

That is something you cannot prevent....consoles ARE a stronger market. Why do you think that EA is not taking their games off the 360 and PS3 in order to have full benefit of not sharing DLC profits as they are doing with Steam? That battle is long gone and lost, nothing you or anyone can do about it. But leaving BioWare unpaid for their titanic efforts to bring us these games is just as wrong as EA trying to force spyware on their fans but two wrongs don't make a right. So yes I fully stand my ground: if you'll play ME3 you should buy a copy not requiring Origin(360 or PS3) at full price.

Stronger market why? I'd say it's the perception that publishers have created. Their personal lack of support for PC, their lack of advertising for the PC. However, Bethesda and Valve would like to have a word with you. Skyrim did very well on the PC and if you go by their last announcement.. destroyed the sales of the other two platforms. Valves games generally do better on the PC than they do on the consoles. It's all in the advertising, the community you've built and respecting your customers. Unfortunately EA Games has **** all over PC Gamers over the years and now tries to play the "WE DO LOVE PC GAMERS CARD." Which, by the way, is total PR Crap.

Modifié par GirlPower23, 15 janvier 2012 - 12:52 .

[Robhuzz]

This has probably been answered already but reading 126 pages of replies - mostly hate I recon - I'll just ask: Since Priestly said it's required for installing and validating ME3, does that mean you can install and validate ME3 then remove Origin from your system and be done with that mess?

[Pixieking]

Robhuzz wrote...

This has probably been answered already but reading 126 pages of replies - mostly hate I recon - I'll just ask: Since Priestly said it's required for installing and validating ME3, does that mean you can install and validate ME3 then remove Origin from your system and be done with that mess?

Now that hasn't been answered yet.

[GirlPower23]

Robhuzz wrote...

This has probably been answered already but reading 126 pages of replies - mostly hate I recon - I'll just ask: Since Priestly said it's required for installing and validating ME3, does that mean you can install and validate ME3 then remove Origin from your system and be done with that mess?

Has yet to be answered by anyone from BioWare or EA Games. 

[Rajat Taneja]

My agenda @ abaris was to purchase a copy of mass effect 3, untill I found out that ea is being bad again. Unfortunatelly, I cant put ea in the corner untill they understand that they have been a bad boy.
They can't even see me, let alone hear me.
So ea is bad and I should stay nice? I'v been nice for years. I feel i got the right to be a bad once with mass effect 3.

[insert devil smilly]

[didymos1120]

No, you don't have that right, no matter how mightily you rationalize.

[casadechrisso]

Anubra wrote...

why debating something you cant change? ea wont change its mind, steam want to do it how they want, ea want to do it how they wont. and ea / bw dont care if people wont buy it cause of origin, well maybe BW but they can't change it cause EA owns them. and i cant wait to see all the pirates here getting sued or so and cry about it. cause it will be the fault of EA too!

In Germany it worked, so don't assume it's not possible to change them. If german players hadn't spoken out on forums and blogs, we'd still have the very same EULA as you guys.

[Rajat Taneja]

By what law? ea laws? usa laws? Stop joking here mate

In my country its legal to download. We pay for this via copyright quotes.
I do not wish to use origin, but via legal ways I am stuck with origin. I'll pass on the legal if I please, thank you

[Pupuppu]

Sofia Lamb wrote...

Pupuppu wrote...

The problem could be, that they do change them that fast that many people do not know what TOS is the current one, but I don't blame them, because you get not informed when they change it but still consent to it.

Usually when they change the terms you have to agree to them again. Though I am not sure Origin does this.

At least the Origin I saw does not inform you of any policy changes whatsoever. They only transmit to their server a flag whether you accepted their Origin Eula, not which one. So the Eula you accepted in the past is valid for every Eula in the future.

Modifié par Pupuppu, 15 janvier 2012 - 01:01 .

[Candidate 88766]

didymos1120 wrote...

No, you don't have that right, no matter how mightily you rationalize.

Exactly.

There is absolutely no justifiable reason to pirate a new game that is readily available to consumers.

If it was an old game unavilable any more it might be acceptable, but for something like ME3 it is just disgraceful.

All his 'justification' boils down to him wanting free stuff. Nothing more.

[Candidate 88766]

Rajat Taneja wrote...

By what law? ea laws? usa laws? Stop joking here mate

In my country its legal to download. We pay for this via copyright quotes.
I do not wish to use origin, but via legal ways I am stuck with origin. I'll pass on the legal if I please, thank you

So you don't think Bioware deserves anything for all the years and effort they've put into this game?

[didymos1120]

Rajat Taneja wrote...

By what law? ea laws? usa laws? Stop joking here mate

Nothing to do with the laws of any land, "mate".

[Robhuzz]

ChookAttack wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

This has probably been answered already but reading 126 pages of replies - mostly hate I recon - I'll just ask: Since Priestly said it's required for installing and validating ME3, does that mean you can install and validate ME3 then remove Origin from your system and be done with that mess?

Origin must remain installed on your computer as stated in the Origin application EULA.

C. License Validation. The Application and an internet connection are
required to validate the license for certain products distributed by EA.
You acknowledge and agree that the Application can automatically
validate license rights for some or all EA products without separate
notice to you. This means that in order to use the Application and certain
EA products, you must leave the Application installed on your computer.
You acknowledge and agree that the Application may use information
regarding your computer, hardware, media, software and your use of the
Application to validate your license rights and to update the Application.

Bah, there goes the one redeeming function Origin seemed to have. Thanks for answering anyway. I was a fool to think there was a legal way to avoid getting screwed by big corporations, apart from just not buying ME3 (which is no option for me - I must have it!)

[Rajat Taneja]

by what then "buddy"? Because it's a crime?

So ea be a criminal and I cant.

[Candidate 88766]

Robhuzz wrote...

ChookAttack wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

This has probably been answered already but reading 126 pages of replies - mostly hate I recon - I'll just ask: Since Priestly said it's required for installing and validating ME3, does that mean you can install and validate ME3 then remove Origin from your system and be done with that mess?

Origin must remain installed on your computer as stated in the Origin application EULA.

C. License Validation. The Application and an internet connection are
required to validate the license for certain products distributed by EA.
You acknowledge and agree that the Application can automatically
validate license rights for some or all EA products without separate
notice to you. This means that in order to use the Application and certain
EA products, you must leave the Application installed on your computer.
You acknowledge and agree that the Application may use information
regarding your computer, hardware, media, software and your use of the
Application to validate your license rights and to update the Application.

Bah, there goes the one redeeming function Origin seemed to have. Thanks for answering anyway. I was a fool to think there was a legal way to avoid getting screwed by big corporations, apart from just not buying ME3 (which is no option for me - I must have it!)

Just buy it and put up with Origin. Its no more intrusive than Steam, as has been proven in this thread, and you get to play ME3 without any problems.

[Docjam]

Lumikki wrote...

Ponendus wrote...

Lumikki wrote...

Ponendus wrote...


Not if it isn't true that you are giving up your privacy or that they are collecting data. There is no evidence it is happening. It is also not rude if they do do these things and they informed you about it beforehand. I see nothing rude here so far.

There is no evidence?

Origin client EULA is the evidence, company it self is saying that they collect data. Remember ME3 and Origin client has they own EULA.

If it is in the EULA, how is it rude? They are informing you? That means the choice is yours.

Because if I don't accept the indrusion to my computer privacy (data collection). There is no possibility say NO to it, without ALSO lose ability play the game you have buyed. The ability play game and give up your privacy is connected to one EULA question.

Only way to play game is give up you privacy.

Or pirate the game.  IMO I expect that many people may opt for that route.  It's unfair that pirates tend to have less annoying games due to their DRM being cracked, AND they get the games before legitimate customers, and because of pirates publishers go through these extreme lengths that PUNISH LEGITIMATE CUSTOMERS, while only giving pirates a minor inconvenience until they crack it.

Why punish customers?

[Rajat Taneja]

bioware is just a company that is a part of ea and makes enough money already and they take the side of ea on this one. If they should take our side here, the side that gives them all the money. Sorry for bioware, but sadly they are stuck in the middle of all this.

[Candidate 88766]

Rajat Taneja wrote...

by what then "buddy"? Because it's a crime?

So ea be a criminal and I cant.

How is EA acting in a criminal manner?

Downloading it is a crime.

The very definition of stealing is to "take (another person’s property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it".

If you don't pay for ME3, you do not have permission of legal right to take it.

And stealing is against the law in every country.

[Pupuppu]

Docjam wrote...

Why punish customers?

Because you're the product. EA was a bit clumsy in the process and made it bit too obvious, so they have to retreat for the moment.