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[Pixieking]

Yuoaman wrote...

Who? Me?

I was just saying that EA is the only one who sells the DLC.

I know... People don't seem to believe me when I say it.

[Sundance31us]

Emoking wrote...
There's nowhere else to buy it. This means, financially, EA have a monopoly on selling it. This is anti-consumer, since they can charge whatever they like, and you're forced to either buy it, or go without.

It's their property, they can do with it what they want.

[Fredvdp]

Emoking wrote...

JosephCurwen wrote...

Unbannable wrote...

All of this hate against Origin is really just the result of pure ignorance.
...You can play a game without the service running at all.

The sheer irony of these two sentences occuring in the same post just makes my head spin.

Yeah, I didn't want to say anything.

It's true, though. Not all games, but you can in fact run Origin games without running the application.

[Dragoonlordz]

slimgrin wrote...

It's like comparing Steam with GFWL. I don't like either of them, but GFWL is way worse. 

Thats one thing we can agree on, regarding how much information is sent and what "currently" is being scanned it seems between myself and Wolf proved Steam sends more information and currently scans more information than Origin. But the thing I will completley agree with is Ubisofts version is by far the worst out of all three.

[CroGamer002]

Kiku_vas_Normandy wrote...

People, I propose something, simple, crazy maybe... Why not simply enjoy this wonderful universe and create a saga capable of travel trough generations like Star Trek o Star Wars?

On Internet?

lolwutno

[Pixieking]

Sundance31us wrote...

Emoking wrote...
There's nowhere else to buy it. This means, financially, EA have a monopoly on selling it. This is anti-consumer, since they can charge whatever they like, and you're forced to either buy it, or go without.

It's their property, they can do with it what they want.

I see you snipped the bit where I say

"I don't disagree that EA have the right to do it, but it goes against
the customer, since there's no competition, and no reason for EA to sell
it cheap."

[MysterD]

Unbannable wrote...

All of this hate against Origin is really just the result of pure ignorance.

Origin isn't even a DRM solution, unline Steam. You can play a game without the service running at all. It's just a digital distribution, communication and multiplayer platform.

With that said, I can't fathom how people can talk so much **** about Origin, yet give Steam a complete pass.....unless they enjoy swinging from Gabe Newell's ******.

Yeah, Steam is great no doubt, but I don't love it so much that I would never use anything else. I'm all for competition, and EA is perhaps the only company with enough clout to challenge Steam's domination of the digital distribution service

While most games on Origin don't require Origin to run them...
BF3 and ME3 require Origin.

Forcing a game to run a client-program like Origin is not much different than Steam and G4WL in that regard, honestly.

There's some things that I do prefer about Steam, while some other things I prefer about Origin.

[shoulder shrug]

Modifié par MysterD, 15 janvier 2012 - 09:50 .

[Incognito JC]

wolfsite wrote...

No I didn't, I was never even informed that I was being scanned.

Wait, looking at it again, unlike Origin's past scans, Steam scanned your Logitech stuff for control compatibility, and Avast to see if they are being blocked to access the net I think. Not sure what your ZAForcefield thing is.

Origin on the other hand, actually scanned tax programs and whatnot.

[Unbannable]

Emoking wrote...

Nope. Required for Single Player Campaign too.

Who the hell buys BF3 for the single player campaign? 

BF3 from day one was geared, and marketed towards multiplayer.  Only a fool would say otherwise..

[Dragoonlordz]

Fredvdp wrote...

Emoking wrote...

JosephCurwen wrote...

Unbannable wrote...

All of this hate against Origin is really just the result of pure ignorance.
...You can play a game without the service running at all.

The sheer irony of these two sentences occuring in the same post just makes my head spin.

Yeah, I didn't want to say anything.

It's true, though. Not all games, but you can in fact run Origin games without running the application.

It is semi-right in that I can play ME2 without loading Origin as one example. Only new games I think will require it. Just like how my copy of Skyrim requires Steam even though Morrowind might not.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 15 janvier 2012 - 09:50 .

[CroGamer002]

Sundance31us wrote...

Emoking wrote...
There's nowhere else to buy it. This means, financially, EA have a monopoly on selling it. This is anti-consumer, since they can charge whatever they like, and you're forced to either buy it, or go without.

It's their property, they can do with it what they want.

Yeah.

Are we living in Soviet Union or something and hence it's a bad thing?

[Pixieking]

Unbannable wrote...

Emoking wrote...

Nope. Required for Single Player Campaign too.

Who the hell buys BF3 for the single player campaign? 

BF3 from day one was geared, and marketed towards multiplayer.  Only a fool would say otherwise..

That doesn't make requiring Origin running in the background whilst you're playing single player okay. It just doesn't.

Modifié par Emoking, 15 janvier 2012 - 09:50 .

[abaris]

Emoking wrote...

Nope. Required for Single Player Campaign too.

That's why the proverbial hit the fan in Germany.

Mesina2 wrote...

Yeah.

Are we living in Soviet Union or something and hence it's a bad thing?

Since we're at it. Having a monopoly is the opposite of a free market. It's a travesty.

Modifié par abaris, 15 janvier 2012 - 09:52 .

[Fredvdp]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

It is semi-right in that I can play ME2 without loading Origin as one example. Only new games I think will require it. Just like how my copy of Skyrim requires Steam even though Morrowind might not.

But what if you buy a game through the service? If you buy a game through Steam, is it possible to run the game without launching Steam? Origin let's you do that. Haven't tried it for Steam.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 15 janvier 2012 - 09:52 .

[slimgrin]

Unbannable wrote...

All of this hate against Origin is really just the result of pure ignorance.

Origin isn't even a DRM solution, unline Steam. You can play a game without the service running at all. It's just a digital distribution, communication and multiplayer platform.

With that said, I can't fathom how people can talk so much **** about Origin, yet give Steam a complete pass.....unless they enjoy swinging from Gabe Newell's ******.

Yeah, Steam is great no doubt, but I don't love it so much that I would never use anything else. I'm all for competition, and EA is perhaps the only company with enough clout to challenge Steam's domination of the digital distribution service

I don't want any clients on my PC. At all.

[Unbannable]

MysterD wrote...

While most games on Origin don't require Origin to run them...
BF3 and ME3 will require Origin.

Yep, and both of those games offer multiplayer.  Origin is an online communication service as well, so there's nothing wrong there..

[MysterD]

Unbannable wrote...

Emoking wrote...

Nope. Required for Single Player Campaign too.

Who the hell buys BF3 for the single player campaign? 

BF3 from day one was geared, and marketed towards multiplayer.  Only a fool would say otherwise..

People buying BF3 for SP probably will buy BF3 games when they are MUCH cheaper. 

Personally, I play BF:BC2 for both SP and MP.
I normally buy a game for THE ENTIRE PACKAGE.

Modifié par MysterD, 15 janvier 2012 - 09:52 .

[Pupuppu]

DanaScu wrote...

There is a screenshot of both steam and origin, running for the same amount of time, and the amount of information sent by both programs. The poster had opted out of data collection for steam. Quite a bit of difference between them.

Steam is only communicating on port 27017/udp, which is Steamfrieds aka their instant messanger. Besides this steam is doing nothing.
Instead of Origin that is communicating with 5 different amazon EC2 cloud servers via http(s)/5222 all the time.

[Mclouvins]

Mesina2 wrote...

Sundance31us wrote...

Emoking wrote...
There's nowhere else to buy it. This means, financially, EA have a monopoly on selling it. This is anti-consumer, since they can charge whatever they like, and you're forced to either buy it, or go without.

It's their property, they can do with it what they want.

Yeah.

Are we living in Soviet Union or something and hence it's a bad thing?

Some people need to brush up on their economics, EA selling their dlc exclusively is wholesale distribution, not a monoply. Frankly Steam is the one with monopolistic tendencies, their market share has them pretty well into the element of horizontal integration and their attempt to require dlc through their service is pushing towards vertical integration, regardless of what kind of sweet words they utter.

[chaord nightshade]

You know what an easy way to save 70 bucks thank you EA for saving me money.

[Fredvdp]

Unbannable wrote...

MysterD wrote...

While most games on Origin don't require Origin to run them...
BF3 and ME3 will require Origin.

Yep, and both of those games offer multiplayer.  Origin is an online communication service as well, so there's nothing wrong there..

BF3 requires Origin to run, but I thought so far we've only heard confirmation that ME3 requires authentication. I assumed we'll never have to launch Origin after that unless we want to play co-op.

[MysterD]

slimgrin wrote...

Unbannable wrote...

All of this hate against Origin is really just the result of pure ignorance.

Origin isn't even a DRM solution, unline Steam. You can play a game without the service running at all. It's just a digital distribution, communication and multiplayer platform.

With that said, I can't fathom how people can talk so much **** about Origin, yet give Steam a complete pass.....unless they enjoy swinging from Gabe Newell's ******.

Yeah, Steam is great no doubt, but I don't love it so much that I would never use anything else. I'm all for competition, and EA is perhaps the only company with enough clout to challenge Steam's domination of the digital distribution service

I don't want any clients on my PC. At all.

Good luck w/ that one.
Many games theses days have some sort of client attached to it - G4WL, Steam, or Origin.
[shrug]

[abaris]

Fredvdp wrote...

BF3 requires Origin to run, but I thought so far we've only heard confirmation that ME3 requires authentication. I assumed we'll never have to launch Origin after that unless we want to play co-op.

You need it for the multiplayer elements which is hardly surprising.

MysterD wrote...

Good luck w/ that one.
Many games theses days have some sort of client attached to it - G4WL, Steam, or Origin.
[shrug]

So? It's not as if my life depended on playing these games or any games for that matter.

Modifié par abaris, 15 janvier 2012 - 09:56 .

[MysterD]

Fredvdp wrote...

Unbannable wrote...

MysterD wrote...

While most games on Origin don't require Origin to run them...
BF3 and ME3 will require Origin.

Yep, and both of those games offer multiplayer.  Origin is an online communication service as well, so there's nothing wrong there..

BF3 requires Origin to run, but I thought so far we've only heard confirmation that ME3 requires authentication. I assumed we'll never have to launch Origin after that unless we want to play co-op.

To quote Priestly's opening post:

1) Will Origin be a requirement to play all versions of Mass Effect 3? (Digital and/or from a retail brick and mortar store)
Yes, Origin is required for all PC editions of Mass Effect 3, physical or digital.

Modifié par MysterD, 15 janvier 2012 - 09:56 .

[Mister Mida]

MysterD wrote...

Good luck w/ that one.
Many games theses days have some sort of client attached to it - G4WL, Steam, or Origin.
[shrug]

As far as I know, GfWL is not something you need to download seperately. It's integrated into the game.