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[Ghost-621]

didymos1120 wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

Well, Bioware/EA, you have stomped out every little chance of me reconsidering that cancelled pre-order.

There actually was any?

Try ValvE, Hi-Res, Red5. 

I've spoken with Gabe personally. It shows. Steam doesn't scan your private files like Origin does.

[Adanu]

strive wrote...

Has anyone provided the reports, so that it can be looked into or is Chris' offer going to be ignored?

You'd think with so many protesting half the thread would be full of examples of 'evidence'.

Don't need us to give you something a simple google search would give you droves of.

[Icinix]

The amusing thing for me personally - is I dislike all additional software requirements for games. Windows Live, Steam, Origin, whatever.

But out of all of them - Origin is the one that gives me the least trouble and the fastest time to game.

Once again, I am still 100% ANTI-NEEDING Origin - but, its the least painful out of all the ones I have to deal with.

[charmingcharlie]

strive wrote...
You'd think with so many protesting half the thread would be full of examples of 'evidence'.

I think it is more a case of no one taking Chris's offer seriously.  No matter what evidence is shown or what proof we provide it is always a "oh no that is blah de blah and all totally innocent honest guv'nor".  If we had irrefutable proof that Origin grew legs and set about murdering your pets I am sure the response would be "oh no that is a windows process doing that, honest it has nothing to do with EA whatsoever ....... oh btw did you check our new EULA that specifically states that Origin can grow legs and murder your pets".

[Siona]

Wait, does this mean that if you played with Steam for both ME1 and ME2, you won't be able to import your save files? ._.

[Sundance31us]

DiebytheSword wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...
No, because those are controlled by MS and Sony.

Who I'm sure also take a cut of DLC revenues. 

They are larger companies with more diversified holdings; they can probably offer a better deal than Valve.

[Ghost-621]

Adanu wrote...

strive wrote...

Has anyone provided the reports, so that it can be looked into or is Chris' offer going to be ignored?

You'd think with so many protesting half the thread would be full of examples of 'evidence'.

Don't need us to give you something a simple google search would give you droves of.

The wonders of Google, and typing.

[Ghost-621]

Siona wrote...

Wait, does this mean that if you played with Steam for both ME1 and ME2, you won't be able to import your save files? ._.

It means you are screwed

[Bryy_Miller]

Siona wrote...

Wait, does this mean that if you played with Steam for both ME1 and ME2, you won't be able to import your save files? ._.

No. Your saves files are saved in the BioWare folder of My Documents.

[Icinix]

Siona wrote...

Wait, does this mean that if you played with Steam for both ME1 and ME2, you won't be able to import your save files? ._.

You should be fine - the save games are stored in the My Documents folder and are not directly tied into Steam.

[goofyomnivore]

Don't need us to give you something a simple google search would give you droves of.

I didn't ask for it. It was requested by Chris Priestly. I was just stating an observation.

The wonders of Google, and typing.

The wonders of following a conversation!

Modifié par strive, 14 janvier 2012 - 04:44 .

[Rockworm503]

Icinix wrote...

The amusing thing for me personally - is I dislike all additional software requirements for games. Windows Live, Steam, Origin, whatever.

But out of all of them - Origin is the one that gives me the least trouble and the fastest time to game.

Once again, I am still 100% ANTI-NEEDING Origin - but, its the least painful out of all the ones I have to deal with.

So long as it gets you to your game quickly what they do in the background doesn't affect you.

[Psyfe]

Well Bioware it's been a fun ride, but it's time to jump ship. Cancelled my collector edition pre-order. Guess this is a game I will save my money on.

[goofyomnivore]

I think it is more a case of no one taking Chris's offer seriously. No matter what evidence is shown or what proof we provide it is always a "oh no that is blah de blah and all totally innocent honest guv'nor".

Kind of a defeatist attitude, before this thread it was to the tune "BioWare won't say if Origin is required anytime soon because of sales!" (not you in particular just a generalization)

Modifié par strive, 14 janvier 2012 - 04:46 .

[Rockworm503]

Sundance31us wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...
No, because those are controlled by MS and Sony.

Who I'm sure also take a cut of DLC revenues. 

They are larger companies with more diversified holdings; they can probably offer a better deal than Valve.

Also its their console.  You have to take their deal if you want your game on their machine.

I hear horror stories of how Nintendo was with devs back in the day.

[20thCenturyGhost]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...
And what about the reports that Origin "reviews the filenames" of the contents of the rest of one's hard drive, not just the ProgramData/Origin folder?

Please provide an example of these reports, other than just rumor and hearsay, and I will investigate them with our Origin team. They may just be rumors, but I will investigate if you have a valid source.

Well, I guess we at least owe you some thanks for getting us the information, so thanks. 

That done, lets get quite a bit more candid, and I'm not directing this at Chris, but at Bio/EA:

It's a really sleazy and transparent move that you would withhold this until a Friday afternoon, knowing that it would minimize publicity. If you are so proud of Origin and satisfied that no reasonable person could possibly see it as anything but a boon, why didn't you dedicate your Thursday video to a grand announcement extolling it's virtues? If you're so proud of this why not at least a press release?

You are fooling no one.

Moreover, you are degrading yourselves. Is it worth it? Really?

It's interesting how Casey Hudson has withdrawn from publicizing the game. He seems sullen and demoralized like he's simply going through the motions in the rare bit of publicity he participates in recently. He's all but vanished from twitter, too. Oh, yes, Casey's too busy finishing the game, blah, blah. B.S.

When he quits shortly after ME3 ships, what will you be saying?

When Christina Norman quit I started to wonder if there wasn't a problem. Now it's pretty damn obvious for everyone to see that there is a very big problem.

Anyway, proving that Origin is spyware is not our responsibility. If you seriously expect anyone to believe your claims that it isn't, then I'm sure you won't mind submitting the software to an independent investigation. Let Avira, Kaspersky or someone of comparable stature independently verify that claim. Since you have such confidence in the unobtrusive nature of the Origin client I'm sure you will get right on that, right?

[Pkxm]

Anyone got a recent Origin changelog? I started Origin up today and it updated itself. I did a quick scan of the changelog and I thought I remember seeing a change about the programdata folder or something. Also I remember reading on another site that Origin wasn't doing the scanning anymore.

[charmingcharlie]

strive wrote... Kind of a defeatist attitude, before this thread it was to the tune "BioWare won't say if Origin is required anytime soon because of sales!" (not you in particular just a generalization)

You call it a "defeatist" attitude I call it a "realistic" attitude.  There is nothing Chris can do, he can pretend to be all concerned about our issues but that is it just lip service.  Now sure we can show Chris evidence and he can take it to his higher up and his higher up will tell him to post another bull PR FAQ for the sheep.

It is pretty clear that come what may EA are going to try and shove Origin down our throats.  They do not care about our concerns or the issues we have.  There entire attitude towards Origin is "you will damn well like it and thank us for it",

[PSUHammer]

Wow...the hysteria over this Origin thing is pretty entertaining. Been doing some reading on what Origin is actually trying to do and I see a LOT of people jumping to conclusions. Conspiracy theories are fun, after all.

Anyway, I still think forcing a platform like Origin constitutes an unnecessary level of bloat, but, it isn't the end of the world.

[Icinix]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

The amusing thing for me personally - is I dislike all additional software requirements for games. Windows Live, Steam, Origin, whatever.

But out of all of them - Origin is the one that gives me the least trouble and the fastest time to game.

Once again, I am still 100% ANTI-NEEDING Origin - but, its the least painful out of all the ones I have to deal with.

So long as it gets you to your game quickly what they do in the background doesn't affect you.

Well the whole privacy, spyware issue I don't personally have a problem with. Origins terms and conditions are pretty much in line with with every agreement I've clicked yes on since the introduction of Windows 95. And in the latest update - Origins policy tries to be very clear about what it does and doesn't do.

My issue is the fact that I need to have it at all. Its still not as fast as me just clicking a link and into the game I go. Its still something that, however miniscule, uses resources and CPU cycles, its still an additional hard drive space taker (however small) that I didn't want or ask for, its still something that I don't desire to HAVE to use, its now ANOTHER thing that needs to be running in order for me to be able to enjoy my games.

Instead of just having games - I now need to have running, Steam, Windows Live, Origin and even Impulse. - I never used to need any of them - I don't know how Origin will work with updates, but Steam makes my life hell to play games when the internet is slow or down (and yes, there are HUGE parts of the world that don't have great internet access).

And hell - I never hide icons from my taskbar - and I just like to keep a clean taskbar DAMMIT! :@

[goofyomnivore]

You call it a "defeatist" attitude I call it a "realistic" attitude.
 There is nothing Chris can do, he can pretend to be all concerned about
our issues but that is it just lip service.  Now sure we can show Chris
evidence and he can take it to his higher up and his higher up will
tell him to post another bull PR FAQ for the sheep.

Even if I didn't think it would do any good I'd take 5-10mins to compile 'evidence'. It shouldn't take too long if it takes a 'simple Google search' and is everywhere to be found. So he can't turn around and say you did nothing. I'd think 10 minutes of your time is worth the chance if you felt passionate enough not to buy the game over Origin.

I truthfully don't care that much about Origin. My gf uses Facebook and other social sites constantly on my computer. This poor computer has been datamined to hell and back.

Although I hear the protests and agree with them. However they're not at the top of my priority list when evaluating the game.

I'm more concerned about the "you can't sue us" clause they have.

Modifié par strive, 14 janvier 2012 - 04:58 .

[Shermos]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Shermos wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Shermos wrote...

Gabriel Stelinski wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

2) Is constant Origin connection required or is it a single one off authentication when the game is first installed. Is there also a limit to the number of installations available?
Mass Effect 3 will require a one time, single authorization for the single player game. There is no limit to the number of installs. Playing Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer will require a constant connection.

This is really the only thing that interested me. As always, this is good news.

This. Thanks for the update Chris. I think most of the people who saying crap like "pre order cancelled" are just here to troll, attack Bioware, and wouldn't have bought the game anyway.

Good for you for knowing flat out why we're not buying the game.
Yeah I have the first 2 games and I just like hanging around here for the lulz 
Hey if you enjoy your computer being scanned and having all of yoru privacy taking away by all means enjoy Origin.  I was looking forward to finishing the series but I like my computer spyware free more.

If you want your computer to be spyware free, stop using the internet.

You don't know much about computers.
My computer is perfectly spyware free.

You're kidding yourself buddy, and you're paranoid. You might want to see someone about it.

[Adanu]

Shermos wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Shermos wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Shermos wrote...

Gabriel Stelinski wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

2) Is constant Origin connection required or is it a single one off authentication when the game is first installed. Is there also a limit to the number of installations available?
Mass Effect 3 will require a one time, single authorization for the single player game. There is no limit to the number of installs. Playing Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer will require a constant connection.

This is really the only thing that interested me. As always, this is good news.

This. Thanks for the update Chris. I think most of the people who saying crap like "pre order cancelled" are just here to troll, attack Bioware, and wouldn't have bought the game anyway.

Good for you for knowing flat out why we're not buying the game.
Yeah I have the first 2 games and I just like hanging around here for the lulz 
Hey if you enjoy your computer being scanned and having all of yoru privacy taking away by all means enjoy Origin.  I was looking forward to finishing the series but I like my computer spyware free more.

If you want your computer to be spyware free, stop using the internet.

You don't know much about computers.
My computer is perfectly spyware free.

You're kidding yourself buddy, and you're paranoid. You might want to see someone about it.

Theres plenty of programs out there specific made to dea lwith Spyware. I have quite a few of them and they work wonderfully.

Try again.

[Sundance31us]

Rockworm503 wrote...
Also its their console.  You have to take their deal if you want your game on their machine.

I hear horror stories of how Nintendo was with devs back in the day.

Good point. It might be similar to how the studios and exhibitors (Regal, AMC) agree to release and show movies. Interesting.