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[tishyw]

Chris, a couple of questions:

Does Origin need to be running in the background to play the single player game?
Can we uninstall Origin after authenticating ME3 and still play the game?
Do we need a constant connect to the internet to play the single player game?

Thanks

[Adugan]

tishyw wrote...

Chris, a couple of questions:

Does Origin need to be running in the background to play the single player game?
Can we uninstall Origin after authenticating ME3 and still play the game?
Do we need a constant connect to the internet to play the single player game?

Thanks

The answer is no to all 3, but that is just my word on it based on what I heard from one of the mods or Chris. It needs to be installed and running when you install ME3, and after that it HAS to be on your hard drive, but it doesnt have to be running to play ME3.

Modifié par Adugan, 16 janvier 2012 - 05:48 .

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

photographerleia wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

photographerleia wrote...

TBH it's sad that we even have to think about this.  This should not have to be a consideration when trying to decide if one wishes to purchase a video game or not.

We shouldn't , personally everyone here seems like great people who just want to play their game of choice.But because someone has handed down orders to use origin , it's ignited  a fire storm.

We feel as if our emotions have been put through the wringer.  We feel betrayed by a company we have long supported and lauded.  Most importantly, we feel ignored and helpless in the face of cold, impwersonal, coporate powergames that have no place being here in the first place.  Some genuine acknowlegement of the community's anger, and some genuine statement that made us actually believe they would look into the matter, would go a long way right about now.  The problem is, they have abused out trust enough in the past couple years that even if they said they would look into it ... I'm not sure we would believe them.  They would have to be really really convincing, and I'm not sure EA/Bioware has that in them anymore.

And if you feel you have been abused by company , then go ahead boycott EA because your tired of what their doing to you.I'm not disagreeing  with doing that , it's what I would do.Like I said I'm just trying to point out what origins does , separating mis-information and putting the truth out their about the service.I

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

Adugan wrote...

tishyw wrote...

Chris, a couple of questions:

Does Origin need to be running in the background to play the single player game?
Can we uninstall Origin after authenticating ME3 and still play the game?
Do we need a constant connect to the internet to play the single player game?

Thanks

The answer is no to all 3, but that is just my word on it based on what I heard from one of the mods or Chris. It needs to be installed and running when you install ME3, and after that it HAS to be on your hard drive, but it doesnt have to be running to play ME3.

^This , you only need origin for multiplayer that's it.After you've activated you can uninstall and say bye bye to bloatware or whatever you want to call it.

[photographerleia]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

photographerleia wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...


We shouldn't , personally everyone here seems like great people who just want to play their game of choice.But because someone has handed down orders to use origin , it's ignited  a fire storm.

We feel as if our emotions have been put through the wringer.  We feel betrayed by a company we have long supported and lauded.  Most importantly, we feel ignored and helpless in the face of cold, impwersonal, coporate powergames that have no place being here in the first place.  Some genuine acknowlegement of the community's anger, and some genuine statement that made us actually believe they would look into the matter, would go a long way right about now.  The problem is, they have abused out trust enough in the past couple years that even if they said they would look into it ... I'm not sure we would believe them.  They would have to be really really convincing, and I'm not sure EA/Bioware has that in them anymore.

And if you feel you have been abused by company , then go ahead boycott EA because your tired of what their doing to you.I'm not disagreeing  with doing that , it's what I would do.Like I said I'm just trying to point out what origins does , separating mis-information and putting the truth out their about the service.I

I know you were not disagreeing with me.  I suppose I was suggesting reason for the fire storm.  This whole situation give me heartache.

Modifié par photographerleia, 16 janvier 2012 - 05:50 .

[outlaw1109]

[quote]Dragoonlordz wrote...


I know the already story thanks. He is not covered by consumer rights laws we are talking about here for his creating a site which supplied him with over £200k+ income based on directing people to pirated movies. His excuse of it was no different than google did not fly with the judge in that case. In the UK your consumer rights vs EULA's is exactly as I stated.

[/quote]


Not too different here in the U.S. IIRC...

Also, when you accept an EULA, you're accepting THAT EULA and acknowledging you agree to it.  If it changes, regardless of whether or not it says "..can change without warning", you still must re-accept the EULA when it is modified for it to stand in court.  They can change it all they want, but you must read and accept those changes in order for it to permisslbe in U.S. court.

[quote]To be more specific:

The only EULA that is legally binding is the one you have accepted.  If they modify it to say, "Origin may take my CC # and charge $110 per use of ME3."  You would have accept the modified EULA in order for it to be legal in the US.

Modifié par outlaw1109, 16 janvier 2012 - 05:58 .

[Adugan]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Adugan wrote...

tishyw wrote...

Chris, a couple of questions:

Does Origin need to be running in the background to play the single player game?
Can we uninstall Origin after authenticating ME3 and still play the game?
Do we need a constant connect to the internet to play the single player game?

Thanks

The answer is no to all 3, but that is just my word on it based on what I heard from one of the mods or Chris. It needs to be installed and running when you install ME3, and after that it HAS to be on your hard drive, but it doesnt have to be running to play ME3.

^This , you only need origin for multiplayer that's it.After you've activated you can uninstall and say bye bye to bloatware or whatever you want to call it.

You cant uninstall it, you can just leave it off and not use it for SP. It is required to launch ME3.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

photographerleia wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

photographerleia wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...


We shouldn't , personally everyone here seems like great people who just want to play their game of choice.But because someone has handed down orders to use origin , it's ignited  a fire storm.

We feel as if our emotions have been put through the wringer.  We feel betrayed by a company we have long supported and lauded.  Most importantly, we feel ignored and helpless in the face of cold, impwersonal, coporate powergames that have no place being here in the first place.  Some genuine acknowlegement of the community's anger, and some genuine statement that made us actually believe they would look into the matter, would go a long way right about now.  The problem is, they have abused out trust enough in the past couple years that even if they said they would look into it ... I'm not sure we would believe them.  They would have to be really really convincing, and I'm not sure EA/Bioware has that in them anymore.

And if you feel you have been abused by company , then go ahead boycott EA because your tired of what their doing to you.I'm not disagreeing  with doing that , it's what I would do.Like I said I'm just trying to point out what origins does , separating mis-information and putting the truth out their about the service.I

I know you were not disagreeing with me.  I suppose I was suggesting reason for the fire storm.  This whole situation give me heartache.

Sorry for the misunderstanding , trust me everyone knows and understands why everyone is mad.It's just some have said it's EA not origin and some have said it's only origin because it spys on everything you do.That's what I have the problem with.Any thing else I really do understand and most us get the anger.

[Dragoonlordz]

photographerleia wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

photographerleia wrote...

TBH it's sad that we even have to think about this.  This should not have to be a consideration when trying to decide if one wishes to purchase a video game or not.

We shouldn't , personally everyone here seems like great people who just want to play their game of choice.But because someone has handed down orders to use origin , it's ignited  a fire storm.

We feel as if our emotions have been put through the wringer.  We feel betrayed by a company we have long supported and lauded.  Most importantly, we feel ignored and helpless in the face of cold, impwersonal, coporate powergames that have no place being here in the first place.  Some genuine acknowlegement of the community's anger, and some genuine statement that made us actually believe they would look into the matter, would go a long way right about now.  The problem is, they have abused out trust enough in the past couple years that even if they said they would look into it ... I'm not sure we would believe them.  They would have to be really really convincing, and I'm not sure EA/Bioware has that in them anymore.

We did get Chris say he would be looking into more details but it isn't really fair on him to attack him if he isn't here. I do not know when he is back in the office in order to reply to such but I am sure over coming days or weeks most if not all answer may be given beyond the ones we the players/other customers have been able to answer for you with our own efforts into finding out what the client does and sends plus what your rights are regarding worry over that last part of the EULA. Including comparrisons with other clients including Steam we have also tested and many pages ago shown our results. There isn't much more I and anyone one else here customer wise can do about a lack or trust or if you simply do not want any clients (Steam/Origin/Ubisofts).

This is different to him having the ability to sway EA on this as their long term goal is to push their client and like Steam they do wish to distribute with their client with their games, we won't really be able to change that (personal opinion) when consider how little the sales of ME3 is compared to their future goals and truly much more vast income from other sources, genres and titles (I used the term drop in the ocean in that regard). The unfortunate thing is Origin while currently does less harm than Steam in regards to what it scans and what it sends compared to Steam. It does lack some of the features of the much bigger client of Steams. I believe that will change over time (just my own personal opinion).

[Sundance31us]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...
Now see you have to be careful with the wording.Actually it saying personal information going through their site and not on your personal computer.This could be credit card information that you use to purchase games through the store.

Correct. You also have to be careful when adding information to your profile and with what you post.

Edit to correct spelling.

Modifié par Sundance31us, 16 janvier 2012 - 05:55 .

[Dragoonlordz]

outlaw1109 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...


I know the already story thanks. He is not covered by consumer rights laws we are talking about here for his creating a site which supplied him with over £200k+ income based on directing people to pirated movies. His excuse of it was no different than google did not fly with the judge in that case. In the UK your consumer rights vs EULA's is exactly as I stated.

Not too different here in the U.S. IIRC...

Also, when you accept an EULA, you're accepting THAT EULA and acknowledging you agree to it.  If it changes, regardless of whether or not it says "..can change without warning", you still must re-accept the EULA when it is modified for it to stand in court.  They can change it all they want, but you must read and accept those changes in order for it to permisslbe in U.S. court.

Yeh it even says in their EULA that have 30 days once changes proposed just like Steams does the same gives you time to choose if wish to accept or not.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

Adugan wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Adugan wrote...

tishyw wrote...

Chris, a couple of questions:

Does Origin need to be running in the background to play the single player game?
Can we uninstall Origin after authenticating ME3 and still play the game?
Do we need a constant connect to the internet to play the single player game?

Thanks

The answer is no to all 3, but that is just my word on it based on what I heard from one of the mods or Chris. It needs to be installed and running when you install ME3, and after that it HAS to be on your hard drive, but it doesnt have to be running to play ME3.

^This , you only need origin for multiplayer that's it.After you've activated you can uninstall and say bye bye to bloatware or whatever you want to call it.

You cant uninstall it, you can just leave it off and not use it for SP. It is required to launch ME3.

Maybe your right , but it's off and not active. 

[Adugan]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Adugan wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Adugan wrote...

tishyw wrote...

Chris, a couple of questions:

Does Origin need to be running in the background to play the single player game?
Can we uninstall Origin after authenticating ME3 and still play the game?
Do we need a constant connect to the internet to play the single player game?

Thanks

The answer is no to all 3, but that is just my word on it based on what I heard from one of the mods or Chris. It needs to be installed and running when you install ME3, and after that it HAS to be on your hard drive, but it doesnt have to be running to play ME3.

^This , you only need origin for multiplayer that's it.After you've activated you can uninstall and say bye bye to bloatware or whatever you want to call it.

You cant uninstall it, you can just leave it off and not use it for SP. It is required to launch ME3.

Maybe your right , but it's off and not active. 

Yeah, but I bet for MP, patching and DLCs it will require Origin running. That is the bad part.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

Sundance31us wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...
Now see you have to be careful with the wording.Actually it saying personal information going through their site and not on your personal computer.This could be credit card information that you use to purchase games through the store.

Correct. You also have to be careful when adding information to your profile and with what you post.

Edit to correct spelling.

Yes , just like posting something on facebook

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

Adugan wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Adugan wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Adugan wrote...

tishyw wrote...

Chris, a couple of questions:

Does Origin need to be running in the background to play the single player game?
Can we uninstall Origin after authenticating ME3 and still play the game?
Do we need a constant connect to the internet to play the single player game?

Thanks

The answer is no to all 3, but that is just my word on it based on what I heard from one of the mods or Chris. It needs to be installed and running when you install ME3, and after that it HAS to be on your hard drive, but it doesnt have to be running to play ME3.

^This , you only need origin for multiplayer that's it.After you've activated you can uninstall and say bye bye to bloatware or whatever you want to call it.

You cant uninstall it, you can just leave it off and not use it for SP. It is required to launch ME3.

Maybe your right , but it's off and not active. 

Yeah, but I bet for MP, patching and DLCs it will require Origin running. That is the bad part.

Yeah ,but I mean it's active for you to get all that stuff and then you can turn it off again.

[outlaw1109]

[quote]Adugan wrote...


Yeah, but I bet for MP, patching and DLCs it will require Origin running. That is the bad part.

[/quote]


If you're only playing SP, imagine it to be the updater tool.

MP, on the other hand...

If you're someone with trust issues, do a google search for process monitors...educate yourself on how to protect yourself.

[quote]Edit
Hasn't this been a fun discussion?

Modifié par outlaw1109, 16 janvier 2012 - 06:05 .

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

[quote]outlaw1109 wrote...

[quote]Adugan wrote...


Yeah, but I bet for MP, patching and DLCs it will require Origin running. That is the bad part.

[/quote]


If you're only playing SP, imagine it to be the updater tool.

MP, on the other hand...

If you're someone with trust issues, do a google search for process monitors...educate yourself on how to protect yourself.

[quote]Edit
Hasn't this been a fun discussion?[/quote]

That's what I say , frustrating but fun.I leave this dicussion now and may return later today for me.(tommorrow)

[Sundance31us]

outlaw1109 wrote...
If you're only playing SP, imagine it to be the updater tool.

MP, on the other hand...

If you're someone with trust issues, do a google search for process monitors...educate yourself on how to protect yourself.

Chris said it had to be active for MP.

Chris Priestly wrote...
2) Is constant Origin connection required or is it a single one off authentication when the game is first installed. Is there also a limit to the number of installations available?
Mass Effect 3 will require a one time, single authorization for the single player game. There is no limit to the number of installs. Playing Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer will require a constant connection.

We don't know about updates and DLC downloads yet.

[Adugan]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Adugan wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Adugan wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Adugan wrote...

tishyw wrote...

Chris, a couple of questions:

Does Origin need to be running in the background to play the single player game?
Can we uninstall Origin after authenticating ME3 and still play the game?
Do we need a constant connect to the internet to play the single player game?

Thanks

The answer is no to all 3, but that is just my word on it based on what I heard from one of the mods or Chris. It needs to be installed and running when you install ME3, and after that it HAS to be on your hard drive, but it doesnt have to be running to play ME3.

^This , you only need origin for multiplayer that's it.After you've activated you can uninstall and say bye bye to bloatware or whatever you want to call it.

You cant uninstall it, you can just leave it off and not use it for SP. It is required to launch ME3.

Maybe your right , but it's off and not active. 

Yeah, but I bet for MP, patching and DLCs it will require Origin running. That is the bad part.

Yeah ,but I mean it's active for you to get all that stuff and then you can turn it off again.

That time when you are patching is the time when Origin can send all its information to HQ. 

[The-Rog]

No steam, no sale...

[Unit-Alpha]

Adugan wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Adugan wrote...

tishyw wrote...

Chris, a couple of questions:

Does Origin need to be running in the background to play the single player game?
Can we uninstall Origin after authenticating ME3 and still play the game?
Do we need a constant connect to the internet to play the single player game?

Thanks

The answer is no to all 3, but that is just my word on it based on what I heard from one of the mods or Chris. It needs to be installed and running when you install ME3, and after that it HAS to be on your hard drive, but it doesnt have to be running to play ME3.

^This , you only need origin for multiplayer that's it.After you've activated you can uninstall and say bye bye to bloatware or whatever you want to call it.

You cant uninstall it, you can just leave it off and not use it for SP. It is required to launch ME3.

If you need to have it installed to run the SP game, then you *have* to be starting it at the startup of the game. It may not be the full-blown Origin client, but it would be at least some application of it, or it wouldn't need it installed to start.

[outlaw1109]

Sundance31us wrote...

outlaw1109 wrote...
If you're only playing SP, imagine it to be the updater tool.

MP, on the other hand...

If you're someone with trust issues, do a google search for process monitors...educate yourself on how to protect yourself.

Chris said it had to be active for MP.

Chris Priestly wrote...
2) Is constant Origin connection required or is it a single one off authentication when the game is first installed. Is there also a limit to the number of installations available?
Mass Effect 3 will require a one time, single authorization for the single player game. There is no limit to the number of installs. Playing Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer will require a constant connection.

We don't know about updates and DLC downloads yet.

That was my point.  Get a process monitor so you can see what origin is doing while you're playing MP.  WATCH IT!  DLC will require (at least) online activation through Origin, but since that wasn't really specified it's up in the air.  Updates will probably require Origin like a Patch client, where it will verify your install AND authoriziation(<---spelling?)

Unit-Alpha wrote...


If you need to have it installed to run the SP game, then you *have* to be starting it at the startup of the game. It may not be the full-blown Origin client, but it would be at least some application of it, or it wouldn't need it installed to start.

Not true.  It validates your game once.  Then, you start the game from a desktop shortcut (or whatever you prefer) and Origin does not start.  (at least, that's how it works on other one-time activation games).

Modifié par outlaw1109, 16 janvier 2012 - 06:15 .

[Dragoonlordz]

outlaw1109 wrote...

Hasn't this been a fun discussion?

I don't know why or what is it but it always this time of the night or morning as it is here when people start talking in a more calm manner and it becomes productive including more friendly.

There always seems to be a rise in tension and anger just before around this time as shown about 10-20 pages ago. When people are calm it allows people with [some] answers to be able to help others answer their concerns and let them know what is it they know. People don't all have the same concerns and if calm the ones that can be answered will get answered best some of us can give.

However it feels like some of the ones who are too full of anger look for people to take their anger out on and those of us who spent our time looking into what client does and what we do know get the brunt of it because we seem like the easy targets given we might not agree with those who are very angry.

It is this time of night/morning that things get more polite and less frustrating imho.

[Doctalen]

Chris y ur posts no show

[Unit-Alpha]

It may be possible to sandbox the whole thing and prevent it from sending out anything. Programs like Sandboxie and the sandbox app from Avast! will probably do the job.