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[PSUHammer]

Balder84 wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

Balder84 wrote...

This is gonna be a day 1 pirate for me 4 sure. I have no other option, but one option which I am not willing to accept. 

You sir, are a scumbag.  Why would you come in here and drag this discussion down and admit you are a thief?

Whoa!! Hold on there my friend I don't say that it was ment to be a Quote ... not sure what happend there.....I don't support piracy read further back into the thread man!

My apologies then!  You may want to edit that post.  It makes it look like you do!  

[Aquem1ni]

Hammer6767 wrote...

Aquem1ni wrote...

It is all good and nice to play moral outrage and boycott here, but let´s face it we all know that once the stores open the game will sell like hot cakes (and at least half of those vowing never to purchase it here now will have it on day one).

yup, day one pirate version without origin, thank you very much!

Thank you for contributing to the problem.  <_<

No problem dude. If you wish you can take a look at my games archive I bought trought the years. Lots of bioware titels among them. If BF3 was not a multiplayer game, then that game would have been the first to pirate. 

[PSUHammer]

Aquem1ni wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

Aquem1ni wrote...

It
is all good and nice to play moral outrage and boycott here, but let´s
face it we all know that once the stores open the game will sell like
hot cakes (and at least half of those vowing never to purchase it here
now will have it on day one).

yup, day one pirate version without origin, thank you very much!

Thank you for contributing to the problem.  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]

No
problem dude. If you wish you can take a look at my games archive I
bought trought the years. Lots of bioware titels among them. If BF3 was
not a multiplayer game, then that game would have been the first to
pirate. 

You make no sense. You have another option...DON'T play the game. Do you walk into stores and announce that you are about to steal something, normally?

Modifié par Hammer6767, 16 janvier 2012 - 01:27 .

[Mister Mida]

Aquem1ni wrote...

no, for me it is the business that after all these years of being a nice civilian who bought all games via stores, who is now forced to look for alternatives. My main reason for buying all the pc games i wish to play is that reason and that reason only. PC market will die or only consist of consoleport. I choose not to accept this business model ea decided to force down my throat, not now, not ever! So yes, I will to pirate this game if another valid option is not available in due time

If you don't want to pay for the product as it is, then don't buy it. But don't be a dick either and cheat the developer out of their money. Go play something that is worth your money then.

[Aquem1ni]

Thoth_Amon wrote...
You know who that comment was directed at. There are people who just want it on Steam or only want games sold exclusively on Steam even if it raised the prices considerably.

BS! 
What prices do you mean? I bought all my games vai the internet (not steam) at best price! I get the game physical in my mailbox and then install it via steam. Besided, steam does have great bundles and discount if you pay attention. 
You people keep forgetting that steam was here first, for a long long time with any competirors in sight and after all these year ea finally woke up and smelled the money of digital sales. No problem there, go right ahead ea and good luck with your new online business model, but dont, i repeat dont force me to use it because your also a distributor of games!

[Lumikki]

casadechrisso wrote...

This has already been proven to be bogus, the site reports EVERY port as vulnerable.

EVERY port is vulnerable. This is based that any open port has possibility for vulnerability.

What you meaned to say:
Port what is shown has no connnection into vulnerability what is mentioned ?

[CroGamer002]

jreezy wrote...

Balder84 wrote...

This is gonna be a day 1 pirate for me 4 sure. I have no other option, but one option which I am not willing to accept. 

BS. 

And people wonder why do publisher use piracy as an excuse for DRM or not publishing PC version of some games at all?

[Aquem1ni]

Mister Mida wrote...

Aquem1ni wrote...

no, for me it is the business that after all these years of being a nice civilian who bought all games via stores, who is now forced to look for alternatives. My main reason for buying all the pc games i wish to play is that reason and that reason only. PC market will die or only consist of consoleport. I choose not to accept this business model ea decided to force down my throat, not now, not ever! So yes, I will to pirate this game if another valid option is not available in due time

If you don't want to pay for the product as it is, then don't buy it. But don't be a dick either and cheat the developer out of their money. Go play something that is worth your money then.

Please quote me where i say i dont wish to PAY for me3? I just dont want to use origin. Please tell me how I can do that without haveing to go and download an illegal copy from which origin has been stripped? Enlighten me please?

[CroGamer002]

wolfsite wrote...

casadechrisso wrote...

Let's just say if it was on Steam, I guess there won't be any force to use Origin anymore either, so a win for both Steam haters and lovers. Chris Priestly gave a lot of reasons in his FAQ for people to be here, not only one like Origin = Spyware or the like. The only thing we all (the complainers) have in common is that we don't want Origin forced on us, for one reason or the other.

Ya but then it would be Steam being forced on you not Origin, and there are still people around who do not like Steam seeing it as intrusive so the problem would still stand.

There are quiet a few people in this thread that do not like Clients when they purchase a physical copy.

Sssshhh.

Don't mention their hypocrisy.


Their anti-EA crusade is too big for it.
FOR THE HOLY VALVE!
May Steam protect us!

Modifié par Mesina2, 16 janvier 2012 - 01:29 .

[PSUHammer]

Aquem1ni wrote...

Thoth_Amon wrote...
You know who that comment was directed at. There are people who just want it on Steam or only want games sold exclusively on Steam even if it raised the prices considerably.

BS! 
What prices do you mean? I bought all my games vai the internet (not steam) at best price! I get the game physical in my mailbox and then install it via steam. Besided, steam does have great bundles and discount if you pay attention. 
You people keep forgetting that steam was here first, for a long long time with any competirors in sight and after all these year ea finally woke up and smelled the money of digital sales. No problem there, go right ahead ea and good luck with your new online business model, but dont, i repeat dont force me to use it because your also a distributor of games!

No one is forccing you to buy OR pirate games.  If you admit to it, you are a thief and a criminal.  Plain and simple.

Also...please Bioware moderators.  Don't lock the thread over these dumb posts.  Just delete the offenders!

Modifié par Hammer6767, 16 janvier 2012 - 01:30 .

[Lumikki]

Mesina2 wrote...

And people wonder why do publisher use piracy as an excuse for DRM or not publishing PC version of some games at all?

And publishers doesn't understand that they own action did cause it to happen?

[Mister Mida]

Aquem1ni wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

If you don't want to pay for the product as it is, then don't buy it. But don't be a dick either and cheat the developer out of their money. Go play something that is worth your money then.

Please quote me where i say i dont wish to PAY for me3? I just dont want to use origin. Please tell me how I can do that without haveing to go and download an illegal copy from which origin has been stripped? Enlighten me please?

I said 'the product as it is'. Having trouble figuring out what that means?

[CroGamer002]

Lumikki wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

And people wonder why do publisher use piracy as an excuse for DRM or not publishing PC version of some games at all?

And publishers doesn't understand that they own action did cause it to happen?

Not a justification for you to pirate.

[Aquem1ni]

You make no sense. You have another option...DON'T play the game. Do you walk into stores and announce that you are about to steal something, normally?

Of course it makes sence dude. I did not make origin mandatory, ea did. I did not choose to go and pirate me3. Heck, i was planning to pre-order the damn game. Untill i found it this is game nr2 that is mandatory concerning origin. It is not me that is useing these lame barriers and then telling us its due to piracy that we use these barriers. That complete BULL****. It just a way to get all the steam users (5 millioen user being active every week) on their brand new business model. In that way they make the most profit, because there is no third party involved. Where is the alternatives for the customer? 

[Lumikki]

Mesina2 wrote...

Sssshhh.

Don't mention their hypocrisy.


Their anti-EA crusade is too big for it.
FOR THE HOLY VALVE!
May Steam protect us!

Sorry, but this was funny.

How ever, you are right, there are people who doesn't want to use digital distribution softwares at all. Like allways people should have possibility make they own choices.

Modifié par Lumikki, 16 janvier 2012 - 01:33 .

[Thoth_Amon]

Mesina2 wrote...

And people wonder why do publisher use piracy as an excuse for DRM or not publishing PC version of some games at all?

Publishers do that because they don't have a clue about the PC market, like Ubisoft.  DRM doesn't stop piracy, hell even consoles, which are a form of DRM themselves don't stop piracy.  The only games not getting a PC release these days are either Sony/MS owned IPs, have exclusivity deals with MS/Sony, are crappy and didn't sell regardless of platform or the base game's code is a total mess like Rockstar's Red Dead Redemption.

[Icinix]

Lumikki wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

And people wonder why do publisher use piracy as an excuse for DRM or not publishing PC version of some games at all?

And publishers doesn't understand that they own action did cause it to happen?

Er..actually there was a time where DRM was non-existent or very light (read the manual page 46, third word) etc.

DRM only became something companies looked at because of the increasing problem regarding people not paying for the game.

Hell I can remember when Wolf3d came out, and SoD. I think i saw one legit copy for every 6 non legit.

The spread of high speed internet has only made it worse.

[Lumikki]

Mesina2 wrote...

Not a justification for you to pirate.

True,

But also there is no justification say that publishers own actions aren't part the problem too.

Also DRM it self hasn't been the main problem, it's more like how it has been used that has become problem.

Modifié par Lumikki, 16 janvier 2012 - 01:36 .

[Aquem1ni]

Mister Mida wrote...

Aquem1ni wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

If you don't want to pay for the product as it is, then don't buy it. But don't be a dick either and cheat the developer out of their money. Go play something that is worth your money then.

Please quote me where i say i dont wish to PAY for me3? I just dont want to use origin. Please tell me how I can do that without haveing to go and download an illegal copy from which origin has been stripped? Enlighten me please?

I said 'the product as it is'. Having trouble figuring out what that means?

I'm way ahead of you here dude. Just waiting for you to quote in the part where i claim that i am not willing to pay for my games. I said I will never every pay for any origin mandatory games, that is what i said. Furthermore, I will also get these mandatory titels via a not so legal way, if you no what i mean 

[casadechrisso]

Mesina2 wrote...

wolfsite wrote...

casadechrisso wrote...

Let's just say if it was on Steam, I guess there won't be any force to use Origin anymore either, so a win for both Steam haters and lovers. Chris Priestly gave a lot of reasons in his FAQ for people to be here, not only one like Origin = Spyware or the like. The only thing we all (the complainers) have in common is that we don't want Origin forced on us, for one reason or the other.

Ya but then it would be Steam being forced on you not Origin, and there are still people around who do not like Steam seeing it as intrusive so the problem would still stand.

There are quiet a few people in this thread that do not like Clients when they purchase a physical copy.

Sssshhh.

Don't mention their hypocrisy.


Their anti-EA crusade is too big for it.
FOR THE HOLY VALVE!
May Steam protect us!

I explained said quote two or three posts below that, so this was uncalled for and you'd better read before throwing insults.

[Aquem1ni]

Do you walk into stores and announce that you are about to steal something, normally?

if these stores force me to something i dont like, then yes perhaps i will. But, not before I check somewhere els to see if i can buy the particular clothes i wanted in the first place

[Pupuppu]

Wittand25 wrote...

And in a few years the situation with Origin will be exactly as it is with Steam right now. You have a bunch of hard core fan(atic)s in both the pro and the contra camp, who repeat the same fight with the same old arguments in every forum concerning a soon to be released game using the service, while the majority of customers does not even get what the fighting is about and just continues to use the service.

Call me cynical but I do not see a way to stop this from happening.

The problem I see is that there is no market for a second Digital Distribution system like Steam. Many have failed (last ones beeing Direct2drive and Impulse) and as soon as EA realisies that the investment for the already tiny PC userbase it's not worth it, they will have a hard time justifying the costs to their investors.
Why should a user invest into such experiment, when there is already a well established platform.
You only have to realise, that without the exclusive IP in their shop, the whole Origin thing would be dead on arrival, as they offer nothing their competition already does.
So the only reason and putting your games at risk by using Origin is the hope that EA can establish a community besides an already well established service while maintaing a steady flow of proprietary games on their IP.

The Origin FAQ states:
Q: What happens if EA goes out of business?

A: Origin is powered by EA, the leading publisher of the world's best games, and we're not going away anytime soon.

EA won't go out of business anytime soon, but the interesting thing is what wil happen when the ROI is not what the investors hoped for, especially as many of you said in the tiny PC market.
To get a taste of what can happen compare this to i.e. Microsoft or Major League Baseballs DRM offerings. Or on the gaming side with Direct2drive where you will lose all your Prima guides in the first step, if you don't download them fast enough.

So you have the faith that Origin will prevail with or without steam, just based on their exclusive IP? That's fine. I personally don't and so I will take my investment elsewere.

[Aquem1ni]

jreezy wrote...

Aquem1ni wrote...

You make no sense. You have another option...DON'T play the game. Do you walk into stores and announce that you are about to steal something, normally?

Where is the alternatives for the customer? 

He already said it. Don't buy the damn game.

But, how in the hell can you then play the game? No option to be honest. This game is gonna be wicked.