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[goofyomnivore]

5 million users online at a single point in time

Steam peaks at 5 million-ish about once every 24 hours. It is generally in the 2.5 to 4 million range.

[Zannana]

Can we stop the Steam vs Origin debate? Each application has some +/- but not that many and if anyone is willing to use one has no real issues to use the other, other than personal preference. Each company Valve/EA looks out for her own interests and that is the fact. If you think about it EA does pretty much the same thing we want to do, not comply to someone else's terms. Only EA has the Origin alternative, we don't. It is Origin or the highway. So the people that do not want any such applications in their PC are the ones left with the the real problem, play or not ME3.

[Unit-Alpha]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Balhaar wrote...

However, I really do not accept the criticism that WE, BioWare and EA, are wrong for not offering it on Steam. We would like to offer it on Steam. We used to have a good relationship with Steam. The more stores and digital retailers who sell our games, the more customers can buy the games and the money we can make. We are working with digital retailers like Direct2Drive and others so we are not Origin exclusive by any means.

so we are to believe that Valve or steam is the company to blame? That is just a straight up lie. I bought numerous game titels from bioware via steam and all of a sudden there is conflict? Right at the moment that origin is release with bf3. What kind of idiot do you think your customer are to give us this nonsense! Why did you forget to mention that even a purchase on Direct2Drive will still force the gamer to install origin. Why always tell half a story? Just because via steam the total profit is a bitt lower compaired to direct sales or these smaller chains, you guys are risking a 5 milloen steam users.

Make that 40 million users ;p

30 million, says so on Steam itself. Which ironically is around same amount of EA customers (not to be confused with Origin customers). In the end whether believe Valve or whether believe EA at the end of the day Valve did not pay millions to develop those games, they are EA games and EA paid to develop them which means they get to pick where they sell them. Would it be nice if sold everywhere that everyone want's sure, but we did not pay for ME3 to be developed EA did. When you pay for ME2 you got the product you actually paid for aka ME2. We the customer did not pay for the development of ME3, we paid for the development of the game we just bought namely ME2. 

http://www.gamespot....n-users-6348281

[Pixieking]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

And it won't need to be supported as much with DLC and patches as games like ME3 and BF3 will, as those games have MP so even the smallest glitches - which might be fine in a SP game - will need to be patched. As I understand it, DLC and patches are where EA and Valve have disagreements.

Mmm... Skyrim is single-player. Look at all the glitches and bugs that's had. But anyways, this is off-topic.

[Dragoonlordz]

Sanguine wrote...

I have a question: I bought my computer from a friend of mine, who had mas effect 1&2 on it. I wanted to play them, but he lost the disks, so I had to use a CD crack. I didn't pirate anything, but I didn't really buy them. with Origin, is EA going to be able to see that, and thus prevent me from playing ME3?

With Origin if bought original CD's and can register it with them then would not need CD cracks because you can download it from Origin any time wished once added to owned games list they supply you with free digital version if lose CDs and such. You did not buy ME1 or 2 when your bought your PC, it is still his copies until he informs EA that they are now owned by you of which has been cases where EA are quite happy to switch ownership providing the original owner can verify he bought them.

[Pixieking]

On-topic:

Has that petition been sorted? Is there a link to it?

[Dragoonlordz]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

http://www.gamespot....n-users-6348281

On Steam itself, the very client says 30 million. That is where my number comes from which is their very own client, now maybe they haven't updated their client but that is what their client says.

[Travie]

Ottemis wrote...

There is no frigging blame, it is what it is. They had an understanding, Valve changed something, now they don't.
End of line as Woo would say.

Its extremely hard to believe considering the timing.

You have to look at the respective reputations of the companies involved in a disagreement like this.

The best comparison would be a known felon with several fraud convictions accusing a leader with 20 years of honest business practices of wrongdoing.

[Mooh Bear]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

30 million, says so on Steam itself. Which ironically is around same amount of EA customers (not to be confused with Origin customers). In the end whether believe Valve or whether believe EA at the end of the day Valve did not pay millions to develop those games, they are EA games and EA paid to develop them which means they get to pick where they sell them. Would it be nice if sold everywhere that everyone want's sure, but we did not pay for ME3 to be developed EA did. When you pay for ME2 you got the product you actually paid for aka ME2. We the customer did not pay for the development of ME3, we paid for the development of the game we just bought namely ME2. 

Sure, EA can decide to sell their game at the price they want through the channel they want. And I can decide to not buy it <_<

They keep their game and I keep my money. Must be what is called a win-win situation. GG EA! 

[Balhaar]

@ Ottemis, go spank your monkey dude. Your that guy that loves origin, ea and bioware for this grap and probalby think all steam users should just accept this. Byebye.

OMG.

I'm not "pro-EA". I'm "anti being nasty to people who don't deserve it". Remember kids, give respect to get respect.

Plus, I totally don't believe it's Valve's fault, so, yeah.

I was agreeing with you and just thinking upload. I also dont think valve had anything to do with this and because they declined the new ea rules, ea is using this to point at valve. To easy if you ask me. Damn shame to see this war and we are the group that is left behind. Very sad

[themastakillah]

yo people stop quoting or arguing with the dudes that talk about pirating the game, let them be, i dont wanna see this thread closed, dont fuel their discussion, they will get banned for that. '

[Dragoonlordz]

Zannana wrote...

Can we stop the Steam vs Origin debate? Each application has some +/- but not that many and if anyone is willing to use one has no real issues to use the other, other than personal preference. Each company Valve/EA looks out for her own interests and that is the fact. If you think about it EA does pretty much the same thing we want to do, not comply to someone else's terms. Only EA has the Origin alternative, we don't. It is Origin or the highway. So the people that do not want any such applications in their PC are the ones left with the the real problem, play or not ME3.

I agree with that.

The one's there is no real answer for and (personal belief may not get what they want on this issue) are the ones who want no clients (at all including Steam) or no sale. However it is also fair to say that is not what most of this thread people are here about, most want answers about what the client does, how it will work and what it scans and sends plus how it compares to alternatives and such. But you are right, there are a section of people in here who do want no clients at all.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 16 janvier 2012 - 07:18 .

[Pixieking]

Accidental post.

Modifié par Emoking, 16 janvier 2012 - 07:16 .

[Alpha Bootis]

chance52 wrote...

Otherwise what was the point of all the deleted references to sandboxing the program over the last few months?  Notice I wrote 'deleted' not 'locked' because in a locked thread people would still be able to read about a legal option to protect ourselves from the very thing EA now claims not to do... 

I knew I read something here from the Bioware crew about neutralizing Origin. What a big fat fail all those references are deleted. 
First harvest some goodwill and then smack your customers in the face with full-blown Origin.

[Wardka]

Mooh Bear wrote...
Sure, EA can decide to sell their game at the price they want through the channel they want. And I can decide to not buy it <_<

They keep their game and I keep my money. Must be what is called a win-win situation. GG EA! 

Yeah, exactly. See, ME3 may or may not be a great game. I don't know. But in the end it's just one of many games that's going to be released. All this business decision has accomplished, as far as I'm concerned, is that I'll be taking my money to a competitor instead and buy some other game.

[Ottemis]

Balhaar wrote...

@ Ottemis, go spank your monkey dude. Your that guy that loves origin, ea and bioware for this grap and probalby think all steam users should just accept this. Byebye.

Hmno, I'm that girl that believes in rational and logical debate. You're the guy that has no place in it.

[Balhaar]

Sure, EA can decide to sell their game at the price they want through the channel they want. And I can decide to not buy it

They keep their game and I keep my money. Must be what is called a win-win situation. GG EA!

be like charlie sheen and get the game for free, thats ultimate WINNING!!! (tiger blood)

[Dragoonlordz]

Balhaar wrote...

Sure, EA can decide to sell their game at the price they want through the channel they want. And I can decide to not buy it

They keep their game and I keep my money. Must be what is called a win-win situation. GG EA!

be like charlie sheen and get the game for free, thats ultimate WINNING!!! (tiger blood)

Seriously now GTFO. You have now crossed the line into telling people to steal Biowares hard work.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 16 janvier 2012 - 07:19 .

[Pixieking]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Balhaar wrote...

Sure, EA can decide to sell their game at the price they want through the channel they want. And I can decide to not buy it

They keep their game and I keep my money. Must be what is called a win-win situation. GG EA!

be like charlie sheen and get the game for free, thats ultimate WINNING!!! (tiger blood)

Seriously now GTFO. You have now crossed the line into telling people to steal Biowares hard work.

Indeed.

@Stanley Woo

We seriously want no part of what Balhaar is saying, so don't kill the thread simply because of him please.

[Balhaar]

I knew I read something here from the Bioware crew about neutralizing Origin. What a big fat fail all those references are deleted.
First harvest some goodwill and then smack your customers in the face with full-blown Origin.

they all knew this was coming and appartently they are willing to accept it to. They rather have some simple not complaining and paying customer on origin and a group that doenst buy it or even steals it. Instead trying to get the most of that last group to join again they just spitt on that group, feed them lies and try to cover up everything that could possible damage their current image. What fail EA has become.

[shepskisaac]

Emoking wrote...

On-topic:

Has that petition been sorted? Is there a link to it?

Nop. No one seems to be doing anything about it

[Balhaar]

I am just saying what most of you all here is thinking and will be doing soon. please, stop acting as little children and be honest. Dont also lie like ea

And mr woo is trying really hard to get me away from this side. I can see him trying, hihi

[Pixieking]

IsaacShep wrote...

Emoking wrote...

On-topic:

Has that petition been sorted? Is there a link to it?

Nop. No one seems to be doing anything about it

*sad-face*

Okay, I'll get on that in an hour or two, after I've watched some TV, if no-one else has done it.

[Mooh Bear]

Balhaar wrote...

Sure, EA can decide to sell their game at the price they want through the channel they want. And I can decide to not buy it

They keep their game and I keep my money. Must be what is called a win-win situation. GG EA!

be like charlie sheen and get the game for free, thats ultimate WINNING!!! (tiger blood)

Hum, I'm pretty sure I don't want to be like Charlie Sheen 

And I'm good with games. Currently splitting me time between 3 games, with 5 new unopened waiting on the shelf. And another 20+ in the backlog. I have all the time in the world. Maybe I'll pick ME3 GOTY for $10 next year, if it's finally released on Steam.

[Alex06]

Not sure if it's been answered, and I'm not willing to sift through 220-something pages to see it, but does ME3 require you to insert the disc into the DVD drive to play?