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[Savber100]

So this is the day that Shepard died for many PC gamers.

How very... morbid and sad.

Mass Effect Player wrote...

Savber100 wrote...

Mass Effect Player wrote...

I don't know the situation with Westwood. 

http://en.wikipedia....estwood_Studios 

Ever heard of Command and Conquerors? 

These guys pretty much popularized the RTS genre and was a pretty prestigious studio until EA bought them. Thre they made several good games before starting to crack under EA's strenous demans. Before long, they went bankrupted and EA liquadated them. Most of Westwood scattered after that... 

If you want to know why everyone is worried about Bioware, the story and fate of Westwood Studios is the reason. 

The original C&C studio? 

Aye and the creator of Dune 2 (the father game of modern RTS) etc etc. 

Back then, they wer a part of the holy trinity of RTS developers: Ensemble Studios (Age of Empires), Blizzard Studios (Warcraft, Starcraft), and Westwood Studios (Command and Conquerors). Good times... :happy:

Modifié par Savber100, 14 janvier 2012 - 07:59 .

[Rockworm503]

johnhughthomas wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

I thought about this but they'd still get your money for the game which still validates Origin.

Not  if you buy preowned.

How would I be able to buy a PC game pre-owned?
I thought I made it clear I want the PC version.

[didymos1120]

EimiYoshikawa wrote...

Pinnacle Station DLC (which I will note that I bought on and downloaded/installed through the EADM when it still existed, putting lie to the claim that people with Steam copies can't buy their DLC from outside sources and then play said DLC on their Steam copies)

The policy change by Valve is a fairly recent one.  Pinnacle Station pre-dates it by years.

[Darthsam]

Ironically the best CNC game is under EA's name, Generals ZH FTW!!!!

[johnhughthomas]

Rockworm503 wrote...

johnhughthomas wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

I thought about this but they'd still get your money for the game which still validates Origin.

Not  if you buy preowned.

How would I be able to buy a PC game pre-owned?
I thought I made it clear I want the PC version.

[Rockworm503]

Mass Effect Player wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

johnhughthomas wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

I thought about this but they'd still get your money for the game which still validates Origin.

Not  if you buy preowned.

How would I be able to buy a PC game pre-owned?
I thought I made it clear I want the PC version.

Ebay Amazon. Your still susceptible to those passes EA dishes out.

Yeah there really is no way around it.  A used PC game (lol those still exist?) would still require Origin if by some way its not already tied to an account (which I cannot see being possible)
If by some miracle I am able to circumvent Origin without getting my account banned for it there's still the issue of Cerebrus Network which no doubt would lock me out of any DLC and probably multiplayer without forking over even more mony than the game is worth before I even buy the DLC 
And they say pirates are the theives

Modifié par Rockworm503, 14 janvier 2012 - 08:06 .

[johnhughthomas]

didymos1120 wrote...

EimiYoshikawa wrote...

Pinnacle Station DLC (which I will note that I bought on and downloaded/installed through the EADM when it still existed, putting lie to the claim that people with Steam copies can't buy their DLC from outside sources and then play said DLC on their Steam copies)

The policy change by Valve is a fairly recent one.  Pinnacle Station pre-dates it by years.

The actual policy change by Valve is on no way intended to stop Steam copies having DLC bought from outside sources. Basically some free to play games used Steam to distribute the free main game, then sold DLC outside Steam without letting Steam sell it. So they were getting Steam bandwidth, but Steam weren't getting a cut of the actual sales. The policy was changed to prevent this, so any game sold on Steam must sell DLC on Steam as well, though customers with a Steam copy can freely buy elsewhere (my Paradox games on Steam have DLC from multiple sources). This led to the current stand off with EA. 

[Kronner]

In that case, there is no way in hell I buy Mass Effect 3.

[sissysouthpaw]

Thank you for the confirmation. Sadly it means that I will not be buying the game when it first hits.

[Northernian]

EA not releasing ME3 on Steam sounds like a marketing strategy to me. They want to ultra-maximize the profits, by converting Steam users into Origin users, and since that we got addicted to Mass Effect franchise so bad and will do pretty much anything to play ME3, we'll become Origin users eventually. The playthroughs we played on Steam will be obsolete - now If you want to load your character, you need to re-buy ME 1, and ME 2 on Origin. More cash into their pockets.

Don't know if this is entirely the case or not, but I really think that this is a vile marketing strategy to suck poor customers' blood...ehm, money.

I made a choice of continuing with my ME3 on Xbox and found a way to convert my previous PC playthroughs into Xbox versions. It seems I made a right choice for not staying on PC; though I lament, PC is my favourite platform to play any RPG game.

If my suspicions are right, shame on you EA and Bioware! >_<

Modifié par Northernian, 14 janvier 2012 - 08:10 .

[Darthsam]

johnhughthomas wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

EimiYoshikawa wrote...

Pinnacle Station DLC (which I will note that I bought on and downloaded/installed through the EADM when it still existed, putting lie to the claim that people with Steam copies can't buy their DLC from outside sources and then play said DLC on their Steam copies)

The policy change by Valve is a fairly recent one.  Pinnacle Station pre-dates it by years.

The actual policy change by Valve is on no way intended to stop Steam copies having DLC bought from outside sources. Basically some free to play games used Steam to distribute the free main game, then sold DLC outside Steam without letting Steam sell it. So they were getting Steam bandwidth, but Steam weren't getting a cut of the actual sales. The policy was changed to prevent this, so any game sold on Steam must sell DLC on Steam as well, though customers with a Steam copy can freely buy elsewhere (my Paradox games on Steam have DLC from multiple sources). This led to the current stand off with EA. 

This, Revenge of the Titans would be an example

[SJK93]

Northernian wrote...
 now If you want to load your character, you need to re-buy ME 1, and ME 2 on Origin.

Where did you get this from?

Modifié par SJK93, 14 janvier 2012 - 08:11 .

[RaenImrahl]

Northernian wrote...

The playthroughs we played on Steam will be obsolete - now If you want to load your character, you need to re-buy ME 1, and ME 2 on Origin. More cash into their pockets.

I have no specific information on this re: ME, but I do know that those who bought Dragon Age and DA2 on Steam can use their same CD Key to use it via Origin.  It requires re-downloading the game, however.  Saved games can be manually copied into the new installation.

[packardbell]

I am not bothered by this, thanks for the update.

[Forsythia]

Chris Priestly wrote...

4) Will ME3 be available on Steam?
During initial release Mass Effect 3 will be available on Origin and a number of other 3rd party digital retailers, but not on Steam at this time. Steam has adopted a set of restrictive terms of service which limit how developers interact with customers to deliver patches and other downloadable content.  We are intent on providing Mass Effect to players with the best possible experience no matter where they purchase or play their game, and are happy to partner with any download service that does not restrict our ability to connect directly with our consumers.

I lol at this statement. EA is the only publisher on the planet who thinks Steam is 'restrictive'. Even Microsoft is selling games and DLC on Steam now. Nice of you to copy the Origin PR BS, Chris.

Modifié par Forsythia, 14 janvier 2012 - 08:13 .

[Adugan]

Northernian wrote...

EA not releasing ME3 on Steam sounds like a marketing strategy to me. They want to ultra-maximize the profits, by converting Steam users into Origin users, and since that we got addicted to Mass Effect franchise so bad and will do pretty much anything to play ME3, we'll become Origin users eventually. The playthroughs we played on Steam will be obsolete - now If you want to load your character, you need to re-buy ME 1, and ME 2 on Origin. More cash into their pockets.

Don't know if this is entirely the case or not, but I really think that this is a vile marketing strategy to suck poor customers' blood...ehm, money.

I made a choice of continuing with my ME3 on Xbox and found a way to convert my previous PC playthroughs into Xbox versions. It seems I made a right choice for not staying on PC; though I lament, PC is my favourite platform to play any RPG game.

If my suspicions are right, shame on you EA and Bioware! >_<

Not really. When I played Crysis it required EADM, but I never used EADM except to launch Crysis. I uninstalled it recently because I was paranoid it was like Origin.

[RaenImrahl]

SJK93 wrote...

Northernian wrote...
 now If you want to load your character, you need to re-buy ME 1, and ME 2 on Origin.

Where did you get this from?

I should add that I don't think there would be any impediment to loading a Steam-generated save from ME1 or ME2 into an Origin-installed copy of ME3.  Steam saves game files in the PC's "My Document" folder, right?

Anyway, this may be a question Chris can address in the coming days.

[Northernian]

RaenImrahl wrote...

Northernian wrote...

The playthroughs we played on Steam will be obsolete - now If you want to load your character, you need to re-buy ME 1, and ME 2 on Origin. More cash into their pockets.

I have no specific information on this re: ME, but I do know that those who bought Dragon Age and DA2 on Steam can use their same CD Key to use it via Origin.  It requires re-downloading the game, however.  Saved games can be manually copied into the new installation.

I don't know about that. I'm remaining skeptical on this matter till I actually try and see if it works. Which I won't, cos I'll moved to Xbox. 

But this new marketing strategy raises too many questions that Mass Effect fans should be aware of.

Modifié par Northernian, 14 janvier 2012 - 08:16 .

[Rockworm503]

RaenImrahl wrote...

SJK93 wrote...

Northernian wrote...
 now If you want to load your character, you need to re-buy ME 1, and ME 2 on Origin.

Where did you get this from?

I should add that I don't think there would be any impediment to loading a Steam-generated save from ME1 or ME2 into an Origin-installed copy of ME3.  Steam saves game files in the PC's "My Document" folder, right?

Anyway, this may be a question Chris can address in the coming days.

This.  Your save files will be fine and you can continue with a steam version.  That is a given.