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[druss44121]

Thanks for actual, concrete answers.

[Ryzaki]

Emoking wrote...

Zenor wrote...

Emoking wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...
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1) Is this confirmation that Mass Effect DLC will be available to buy in places other than the BioWare store?

2) Re: Bolded part of your quote: That's some epic EA PR there.

3) (Obligatory) No Steam = No buy.

I can bet if ME2 was just released now it wouldn't be on steam just because of the whole "DLC on the Bioware Store".  I have ME1 & ME2 for steam and honestly I don't care if I have to use origin...Don't see the big fuss over not having a game on steam. But again this is just me talking.

Yeah, fair fair. I happen to think Steam is great for PC gaming and developers, but I'm not so arrogant I think everyone should think the same. The part that gets me is the hypocrisy - "Steam have restrictive terms of service which limit delivery of DLC... Hey guys, there's only 1 place to buy Mass Effect DLC!" Words fail me how EA can get so many people to think that's okay. <_<

Yeah that's pretty damn rich right there.

[Splinter Cell 108]

Not_Zero wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Do I need to install Origin to play ME3's single player or do I just need authentication, authorization or whatever it is that is needed?

read the first post

I did and I didn't understand, otherwise I wouldn't be asking.

[Mister Mida]

Well, I intend on playing ME3 on the 360, so I have no personal interest on the matter. However, if EA is planning on using Origin the same way Valve uses Steam and other publishers use Steamworks, they make the decision of buying any EA game (on PC) very easy for me. So thanks, EA. I don't mind DRM (that much) even though it's all totally useless, but I draw the line at the moment I need to install some stupid client I have no use for in order to play a game.

[Tup3x]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Below are answers to the most commonly asked questions about Origin and Mass Effect 3. Thank you for your patience as we have worked to answer them.

1) Will Origin be a requirement to play all versions of Mass Effect 3? (Digital and/or from a retail brick and mortar store)
Yes, Origin is required for all PC editions of Mass Effect 3, physical or digital.

2) Is constant Origin connection required or is it a single one off authentication when the game is first installed. Is there also a limit to the number of installations available?
Mass Effect 3 will require a one time, single authorization for the single player game. There is no limit to the number of installs. Playing Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer will require a constant connection.

3) Is Origin required for the retail versions of the game?
Origin is required for the PC versions of Mass Effect 3, both physical and digital.

4) Will ME3 be available on Steam?
During initial release Mass Effect 3 will be available on Origin and a number of other 3rd party digital retailers, but not on Steam at this time. Steam has adopted a set of restrictive terms of service which limit how developers interact with customers to deliver patches and other downloadable content.  We are intent on providing Mass Effect to players with the best possible experience no matter where they purchase or play their game, and are happy to partner with any download service that does not restrict our ability to connect directly with our consumers.

5) Is there an opt in or opt out clause for data collection? 
Users will be allowed to opt-out of Mass Effect 3 data collection from inside the game.

6) I’ve seen reports that Origin is spyware.  Is this true?
Origin is not spyware, and does not use or install spyware on user’s machines.  In order to allow Origin to install games and their patches for everyone to use, Origin implements a permission change that results in Windows, not Origin, reviewing the filenames in the ProgramData/Origin folder.   This is an ordinary Windows function, not an information-gathering process. 

7) Has the Origin EULA been updated following recent questions in Germany?
The German Origin EULA has been updated.  For more information, please review the Origin EULA here: http://www.ea.com/1/product-eulas.

8) Is there a double-opt in for Mass Effect 3 marketing emails for German residents?
Yes, we always adhere to the German requirement of a double opt-in standard for marketing emails.  Mass Effect 3 users must opt-in twice to receive these emails.


I appreciate everyone's patience on this topic. Please continue to ask questions about Mass Effect 3 and Origin and I will continue to try to get the answers for you.

Well... That seals the deal then. *Pre-orderds DDE version from Origin tomorrow.* I dunno if I should hate Steam's new policy or EA's lack of flexibility. I'd prefer Steam but Origin is totally acceptable. Just make it eat less memory.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 14 janvier 2012 - 12:04 .

[shepskisaac]

Mclouvins wrote...

Ubisoft would like a word with you...

I'm already 100% done with Ubisoft games on PC and I'm only buying used PS3 versions of their games to assure they don't see any money from me.

[Wardka]

Emoking wrote...
Yeah, fair fair. I happen to think Steam is great for PC gaming and developers, but I'm not so arrogant I think everyone should think the same. The part that gets me is the hypocrisy - "Steam have restrictive terms of service which limit delivery of DLC... Hey guys, there's only 1 place to buy Mass Effect DLC!" Words fail me how EA can get so many people to think that's okay. <_<

Yes, as far as I remember the "restrictive terms of service" are that DLC must be able to sold over Steam as well as any other locations. Basically EA wants to keep their DLC out of the Steam store so they don't have to pay Valve whatever cut they take. But hey, spinning that to Steam being at fault is an option, I suppose.

[IronSabbath88]

I feel bad for all you PC users. This is some really crummy news, especially if someone played ME1 and 2 on Steam and thus wouldn't your playthroughs be useless?

Makes me glad sometimes that I play on a console.. still, if I was a PC owner, I wouldn't be happy with this either.

[MartinDN]

We all knew it was coming, im unsure what im going to do, i was waiting for chris's update till i decided whether to preorder or not, i think i may still do it as it doesnt require a constant origin connection, which isnt so bad as i can just uninstall. But still this leaves a bad taste in my mouth, i doubt if given the choice bioware would choose to use this service, but then again nobody knows.

Anyone know the laws in the Uk regarding protection of private data collected and then transferring to unspecified third partys ? Im sure the data protection act would have something to say ? Or is it because you willingly agreed to give your data, even without an opt out ?

[Feanor_II]

Weskerr wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...


5) Is there an opt in or opt out clause for data collection? 
Users will be allowed to opt-out of Mass Effect 3 data collection from inside the game.

Mass Effect 3 data collection... what about other kinds of data collection?

Edit: Shouldn't an announcement as important as this be stickied?

This.

[ttchip]

cheers to my fellow german inhabitants.

Modifié par ttchip, 14 janvier 2012 - 12:04 .

[Reofeir]

Emoking wrote...
Yeah, fair fair. I happen to think Steam is great for PC gaming and developers, but I'm not so arrogant I think everyone should think the same. The part that gets me is the hypocrisy - "Steam have restrictive terms of service which limit delivery of DLC... Hey guys, there's only 1 place to buy Mass Effect DLC!" Words fail me how EA can get so many people to think that's okay. <_<

I honestly think it's quite stupid bussiness wise. Sure, they get overall more money (they don't lose that "30%" off a steam sale), but they could of got some money at least from the "steam only people" which could be a good amount of people. I personally don't know all the details in this whole NO EA GAMES ON STEAM ordeal, but since it seems to be about DLC not being on steam...I find it strange why they wouldn't want to have their DLC on steam. Could of got them some more money. 

Modifié par Zenor, 14 janvier 2012 - 12:05 .

[RainyDayLover]

IronSabbath88 wrote...
This is some really crummy news, especially if someone played ME1 and 2 on Steam and thus wouldn't your playthroughs be useless?

Nah.

[anzolino]

felipejiraya wrote...
Seriously there's people that will not play the PC version only because of Origin?

Just because the program picks some information on your PC?

Yes, because I don't want to share some informations. As simple is that.

[Mclouvins]

Emoking wrote...


Yeah, fair fair. I happen to think Steam is great for PC gaming and developers, but I'm not so arrogant I think everyone should think the same. The part that gets me is the hypocrisy - "Steam have restrictive terms of service which limit delivery of DLC... Hey guys, there's only 1 place to buy Mass Effect DLC!" Words fail me how EA can get so many people to think that's okay. <_<

The major point is that Valve collects a portion of the sale from dlc via Steam when they contibute nothing to the product. It's sort of like what's happening with Netflix where they are being viewed as competitor instead of a distribution medium, but is worse for publishers because Steam has more of a monapoly on the market, largely becasue of the kinds of opinions this thread and like show.

[shepskisaac]

Feanor_II wrote...

Edit: Shouldn't an announcement as important as this be stickied?

HAHAHA is if!

[ifander]

Chris Priestly wrote...
We are intent on providing Mass Effect to players with the best possible experience no matter where they purchase or play their game, and are happy to partner with any download service that does not restrict our ability to connect directly with our consumers.

Funny, considering the hassle that is installing DLC for Mass Effect 2. On Steam, with Fallout New Vegas for example, all your DLC is installed automatically. There's no need to run (in my case) fifteen consecutive installers before you can load up your old saves. So I'd say the best service to your customers in this case would be provided by Valve.

[Pixieking]

Tup3xi wrote...

]Well... That seals the deal then. *Pre-orderds DDE version from Origin tomorrow.* I dunno if I should hate Steam's new policy or EA's lack of flexibility. I'd prefer Steam.

And this right here is why I hate EA's PR.

Steam wants everyone to have access to DLC. It's not a restrictive service. Go look at how many places sell Shogun 2 DLC (a Steamworks game, btw). Look at the fact that Arkham City DLC is available both on Steam, and G4WL.

What happened is that EA want full control of the sale of their DLC. That's why there is still only one place to buy ME/DA DLC.

Steam genuinely aren't in the wrong here.

Modifié par Emoking, 14 janvier 2012 - 12:06 .

[Candidate 88766]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Not_Zero wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Do I need to install Origin to play ME3's single player or do I just need authentication, authorization or whatever it is that is needed?

read the first post

I did and I didn't understand, otherwise I wouldn't be asking.

You'll need to install it and authorize your copy. 

Whether you can uninstall afterwards is a different matter. The SP doesn't require an internet connection, but it may require Origin being present.

[twincast]

Well, it was obvious this would happen. Still, it's a capital disappointment. Now I have to figure out how to do something unmentionable, preferably before my copies of ME3 and KoA:R arrive. Meh.

[Tup3x]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I feel bad for all you PC users. This is some really crummy news, especially if someone played ME1 and 2 on Steam and thus wouldn't your playthroughs be useless?

Makes me glad sometimes that I play on a console.. still, if I was a PC owner, I wouldn't be happy with this either.

No, that's not how things work. It's not useless at all. On top of that you can register your Steam ME2 in Origin if you prefer to use only one client. You cant' do that for ME1 though since it's so old. AFAIK you don't even need Origin client to be running in order to play your games (save BF3). That's the case at least for Crysis 2.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 14 janvier 2012 - 12:09 .

[RainyDayLover]

IsaacShep wrote...

Feanor_II wrote...

Edit: Shouldn't an announcement as important as this be stickied?

HAHAHA is if!

Was wondering the same. It's as if Bioware themselves are ashamed to announce this news.

Modifié par RainyDayLover, 14 janvier 2012 - 12:07 .

[Pixieking]

ifander wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...
We are intent on providing Mass Effect to players with the best possible experience no matter where they purchase or play their game, and are happy to partner with any download service that does not restrict our ability to connect directly with our consumers.

Funny, considering the hassle that is installing DLC for Mass Effect 2. On Steam, with Fallout New Vegas for example, all your DLC is installed automatically. There's no need to run (in my case) fifteen consecutive installers before you can load up your old saves. So I'd say the best service to your customers in this case would be provided by Valve.

<3

I mean, +1

[IronSabbath88]

Tup3xi wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I feel bad for all you PC users. This is some really crummy news, especially if someone played ME1 and 2 on Steam and thus wouldn't your playthroughs be useless?

Makes me glad sometimes that I play on a console.. still, if I was a PC owner, I wouldn't be happy with this either.

No, that's not how things work. It's not useless at all. On top of that you can register your Steam ME2 in Origin if you prefer to use only one client. You cant' do that for ME1 though since it's so old.

Well that still sucks.. you don't have that kind of restriction with 360. Lame.

[Reofeir]

Mclouvins wrote...

Emoking wrote...


Yeah, fair fair. I happen to think Steam is great for PC gaming and developers, but I'm not so arrogant I think everyone should think the same. The part that gets me is the hypocrisy - "Steam have restrictive terms of service which limit delivery of DLC... Hey guys, there's only 1 place to buy Mass Effect DLC!" Words fail me how EA can get so many people to think that's okay. <_<

The major point is that Valve collects a portion of the sale from dlc via Steam when they contibute nothing to the product. It's sort of like what's happening with Netflix where they are being viewed as competitor instead of a distribution medium, but is worse for publishers because Steam has more of a monapoly on the market, largely becasue of the kinds of opinions this thread and like show.

The whole "30%" ordeal and the fact that's pretty much the only one a good amount of people use right? Can see why companies would want to compete here (EA Origin anyone?).. I'm no bussiness man, so I have no idea if not putting it on steam and competting is really a good idea or not...for the company at least.