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We should repeat the complete post on every single page here. Thanks for making clear, Incognito.Incognito JC wrote...
A couple of things.
For those posters that aren't bothered to read through the thread or use their higher cognitive process before posting, many are against Origin, and NOT Steam, because Steam asks for permission to ransack your PC for data. Origin does it ANYWAY without asking. If you are even bothered to read through the thread, you would learn that people have done tests sometime ago and learnt that Origin goes through your private files on your PC, outside of the Origin program folder, via a process monitoring program.
For the more recent posts that Origin only scans its own folders, who is to say it won't scan others. It has been proven to do so before. And no, don't ask for image links. It has been posted on this thread, and you would have seen it if you bothered reading through.
For those people that said, "what's the big deal with privacy, you use sites such as Facebook, etc etc", here's the thing, YOU control what information you want to release to public on sites such as Facebook. And as a matter of fact, I don't use Facebook myself. I have an account, but it does not have my personal information. Just my name, and it's used just to keep in touch with people I know. I do not have the compulsion to show and tell the public everytime I take a photo of myself in the toilet, or everytime I drink a can of beer.
For those people who says, "you're a pirate so you don't want Origin scanning your files lool". What a load of bull. We care about what it scans because we might have important information on our PC. It is no secret that nowadays no major corporations can prevent their database from being hacked. With your logic, why don't you leave your house doors open, you have nothing to hide right? God forbid that you may have sensitive and/or banking information in your house. Just let strangers wander in anytime to take what they want. Because, hey, you have nothing to hide.
As for those ignorant enough to say we can opt out of sharing data on Origin; no we can't. Mr. Priestly's carefully worded post said that we can only opt out of ME3 data sharing, which, to be honest, I do not have a single issue with. Feel free to take my ME3 statistics, how I play the game and whatnot. Origin on the other hand, mines for data that are, bluntly put, none of their damn business.
For those who said, "what's the big deal, switch to console". Not all PC gamers have console. Most PC gamers choose the PC because they do not like playing on consoles. Switching would mean paying more for the console itself, and paying more for games, because PC games are still cheaper. In ME3's case, I CAN'T switch. I have a PS3, but my ME1/ME2 saves are for the PC.
Again, I've said it countless times, and I'm not the only one; DRM do not prevent piracy, it promotes piracy. Pirates will do what they do best, and excel at it. It's us as the paying consumers that gets harmed. A CD check is more than enough, because ME2 was great with just that.
Many of you do forget that, it's our own money that comes out of the pocket to pay for the game. We should not have to pay for a product and go through all the trouble to make our gaming experience more pleasant. If Origin really does prove itself to not be a spyware like so many
claims it to be, then good, I may be able to play a great game after
all.
Lastly, if you do not have problems with Origin, or if you do not play on the PC, good for you, refrain from posting in here. This news does not concern you whatsoever. All you do is bait arguments.
Edit: I'm the lucky first, so here is the complete post
Can we please stop this Steam crying? That would be nice. It's about Origin.
Yes, sometimes it seems they are going into this. However, well said.casadechrisso wrote...
If you want EA to listen to us and stop forcing Origin on us, all your sandboxing or pirating+buying or other ways to prevent Origin from actually running on your comp won't help the cause at all. EA will only see "ah, they buy so they accept it". If you want EA to stop forcing stuff on you, the only way is sadly not buying at all (or get the console version if you must).
Also, I simply refuse to go through all the trouble setting up a sandbox for Origin or whatever, I mean, how much of a sick addict am I? No way, no money from me before I start stuff like that.
And even if I won't ever promote or support that, but if EA really doesn't see how many potential customers they turn into pirates this way simply because it's the only way they get a hassle-free gaming experience... how dumb are they? To me this only proves again that piracy can't be the issue and reason they force Origin on us, because it must be clear to them that the result is the opposite.
Who knows, maybe catching pirates has become the better business than legal sales by now, a new business model?
Has anyone ever thought about this:
The EULA was changed (multiple times now), the client software was changed - from "oh, it's always Windows function fault and not our fault" (I always wonder how they get MS changed Windows that fast and deliver it to me altough my Windows wasn't updated) to "nothing happened out of Origin folder" (despite the IE folder and the Setup.exe).
Fine. But now there are differences between the German EULA and the English EULA. The second one still contains these software/software usage crap. Right? The German one doesn't, a result of some official commissions work. So, now we have the EA statement:
"EA knows that you care how information about you is collected, used and shared, and we appreciate your trust that we will do so carefully and sensibly... blafasel"
Uhm, what? In Germany it means: no software, no software usage. In the rest of the world it means: software, software usage.
Two regions, two behaviours. And exactly this makes me angry. They don't care! If they would they would change all EULAs and not only a country specific one! EA only cares if EA get threatened by the officials (i.e. court)! This isn't honest to the customer. This is "We do what we want until someone forced us to stop it".
It means you cannot use Origin anonymous? Because in this case EA cannot seperate the two regions. They have to know where you come from for the seperation. IPs can be anonymized, so even if you are in Germany you can have an IP from France or Spain whatever. And then? Software and software usage? Great deal.
Modifié par anzolino, 14 janvier 2012 - 03:30 .
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It'll just lead to all the big names forcing their DD services down their customers throat and not allowing their games to be bought on any other one. 
