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Ryzaki wrote...
Mister Mida wrote...
Patience is my ally, as are other hobbies.
I wish I was very patient but I think on this I'll have no issue waiting.
Merkar wrote...
@Gamerpru
Just a friendly reminder that continuing to talk about piracy will get you banned.
Modifié par Mesina2, 14 janvier 2012 - 03:59 .
My point is there are far more registered accounts compared to Active Accounts. By using a general term like "Accounts" it makes Steam smaller than what it really is.Emoking wrote...
And your point? It may be that that's 35 million people playing free to play Team Fortress 2, and 5 million playing Skyrim. It's still a hefty number of accounts for a market that was supposedly dying a few years back.
Gamerpru wrote...
Metalrocks wrote...
well, ME 2 is the last ME for me. really a shame
thanks for the info. now i know and can buy a other game instead.
Maxpayne3 is coming the same month and doenst need Origin
My money is going straight to rockstar soon
wolfsite wrote...
So if you ask EA a question and EA doesn't answer it means they are up to something bad.
But if you ask Valve a question and Valve doesn't answer they are not responsible for anything.
My logic was based on evidnce provided, if Valve released a statement with evidence showing otherwise I would change to fit accordingly. You can't fault me for not making something up to fill in missing information that is needed.
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GirlPower23 wrote...
My point is there are far more registered accounts compared to Active Accounts. By using a general term like "Accounts" it makes Steam smaller than what it really is.Emoking wrote...
And your point? It may be that that's 35 million people playing free to play Team Fortress 2, and 5 million playing Skyrim. It's still a hefty number of accounts for a market that was supposedly dying a few years back.
Killjoy Cutter wrote...
Gaiden96 wrote...
Why exactly is everyone so upset about this? Not looking to start anything. Legitimately asking why this is such a problem.
The threads. Read them.
GirlPower23 wrote...
Also Origin has region locks to.. funny. Your whole argument just blew up in a ball of flames.
Aargh12 wrote...
Region locks have nothing to do with
Steam. It's the retail publisher's decision to make it now available on
Steam in certain regions to maximise the profit from physical copies
(ie. the situation with Skyrim and RAGE in Central/Eastern Europe).
Valve can do nothing about it as they distribute games on terms provided by others.
Modifié par MassStorm, 14 janvier 2012 - 04:04 .
Metalrocks wrote...
Gamerpru wrote...
Metalrocks wrote...
well, ME 2 is the last ME for me. really a shame
thanks for the info. now i know and can buy a other game instead.
Maxpayne3 is coming the same month and doenst need Origin
My money is going straight to rockstar soon
lol, i know. i also rather spend my money on rockstar then €A. at least i have a game to play in march. just not ME3.
. Just not via origin
Mister Mida wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
Mister Mida wrote...
Patience is my ally
I wish I was very patient but I think on this I'll have no issue waiting.
If some devs/pubs can retain their common sense (CDP (RED) for instance) and stick to their guns, as a PC gamer I doubt I'll be bored that much.
If not, well as I said, I got other things to do as well.
Emoking wrote...
wolfsite wrote...
So if you ask EA a question and EA doesn't answer it means they are up to something bad.
But if you ask Valve a question and Valve doesn't answer they are not responsible for anything.
My logic was based on evidnce provided, if Valve released a statement with evidence showing otherwise I would change to fit accordingly. You can't fault me for not making something up to fill in missing information that is needed.
No, I meant automatically believing a company when they spout the same thing repeatedly when you're not shown proof otherwise is occasionally a bad thing. Not always, and I see your point. But I'm viewing this all rather critically (believe me, if we got into how Steam's prices are stupid in Europe, I wouldn't be defending them
Mesina2 wrote...
Emoking wrote...
wolfsite wrote...
So you are saying I shouldn't trust EA cause they are EA....... ya geat logic.
I believe EA's stance since it does make sense, and they have shown proof of it and there intentions that they would like to continue dealing with Valve.
Valve has said.......... nothing, and when you say nothing to defend your stance that normally implies that there is truth is what the other side, in this case EA, has stated.
I'm saying that EA is monopolistic in its attitudes to DLC. And that trusting a monopolistic company when it says "We'd like to sell our products other places" is a bit foolish (not that you are foolish, just it's not a very wise thing to do).
Also, Steam haven't replied because they don't tend to get involved in business arguments. Just like they don't tend to publicize sales figures. Though I do admire your logic that says "just because someone doesn't deny something, doesn't mean that it is right". <_<
So wait, EA shouldn't be allow to do whatever the hell they want with their own DLC's?
While Valve, in other hand, can be monopolistic and do whatever the hell they want with other business's stuff?
I smell Valve/Steam fanboyism here.
If they didn't care they wouldn't publish for PC. Fact.Mesina2 wrote...
Besides, most of publisher you said don't even care much for PC market.
GirlPower23 wrote...
My point is there are far more registered accounts compared to Active Accounts. By using a general term like "Accounts" it makes Steam smaller than what it really is.Emoking wrote...
And your point? It may be that that's 35 million people playing free to play Team Fortress 2, and 5 million playing Skyrim. It's still a hefty number of accounts for a market that was supposedly dying a few years back.
their games again, simple as that.
wolfsite wrote...
Emoking wrote...
wolfsite wrote...
Emoking wrote...
wolfsite wrote...
Infiltrator wrote...
GG Bioware.
I own ME1, ME2, Dragon Age, Baldur's Gate 1&2, IWD 1&2, NWN 1&2, most of the expansions for every one of them, but I am NOT going to buy ME3. Not with this pathetic origin and your disgusting accusations on steam. Restrictive rules? I guess that's why EVERYONE but EA just LOOOOVES steam.
No buy for me. It's gonna be AAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHH MATEYS!!!!
I just love how people have the EA/Steam things completely wrong in every respect despite all information available stating that EA would like to put games on Steam it is just Valve's stance on DLC preventing it
And you believe EA... Why? What does EA say other than "Heyyyy... we'd like our games on Steam, but they won't let us"? Why won't they let EA? Because EA want to restrict the manner in which their DLC is sold. I am getting tired of asking this, but I'll do so again...
Is there anywhere else that sells Mass Effect/Dragon Age DLC?
No, there isn't. Then ask yourself what the "restrictive" ToS that Steam have that applies to those games, and Crysis 2? Oh, wait, it's about selling related DLC.
So you are saying I shouldn't trust EA cause they are EA....... ya geat logic.
I believe EA's stance since it does make sense, and they have shown proof of it and there intentions that they would like to continue dealing with Valve.
Valve has said.......... nothing, and when you say nothing to defend your stance that normally implies that there is truth is what the other side, in this case EA, has stated.
I'm saying that EA is monopolistic in its attitudes to DLC. And that trusting a monopolistic company when it says "We'd like to sell our products other places" is a bit foolish (not that you are foolish, just it's not a very wise thing to do).
Also, Steam haven't replied because they don't tend to get involved in business arguments. Just like they don't tend to publicize sales figures. Though I do admire your logic that says "just because someone doesn't deny something, doesn't mean that it is wrong". <_<
So if you ask EA a question and EA doesn't answer it means they are up to something bad.
But if you ask Valve a question and Valve doesn't answer they are not responsible for anything.
My logic was based on evidnce provided, if Valve released a statement with evidence showing otherwise I would change to fit accordingly. You can't fault me for not making something up to fill in missing information that is needed.
LilyasAvalon wrote...
I've never been more compelled to buy myself an XBox in my life....
Mesina2 wrote...
wolfsite wrote...
Even Notch has some problems with it notch.tumblr.com/post/9550850116/why-no-steam-notch
Look at this.
Modifié par Jonathan Shepard, 14 janvier 2012 - 04:06 .
IsaacShep wrote...
If they didn't care they wouldn't publish for PC. Fact.Mesina2 wrote...
Besides, most of publisher you said don't even care much for PC market.
- improving the products and servicesGaiden96 wrote...
So it's because it reads the data on your hard drive? What is the purpose of this?
Modifié par anzolino, 14 janvier 2012 - 04:07 .
LilyasAvalon wrote...
I've never been more compelled to buy myself an XBox in my life....
Aargh12 wrote...
Source?Emoking wrote...
Off Topic, but
WB: Sell Bastion on PC
SQuenix: Deus Ex: HR
Both games have sold vastly more on PC than on consoles.
Chiefje wrote...
wolfsite wrote...
Emoking wrote...
wolfsite wrote...
Emoking wrote...
wolfsite wrote...
Infiltrator wrote...
GG Bioware.
I own ME1, ME2, Dragon Age, Baldur's Gate 1&2, IWD 1&2, NWN 1&2, most of the expansions for every one of them, but I am NOT going to buy ME3. Not with this pathetic origin and your disgusting accusations on steam. Restrictive rules? I guess that's why EVERYONE but EA just LOOOOVES steam.
No buy for me. It's gonna be AAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHH MATEYS!!!!
I just love how people have the EA/Steam things completely wrong in every respect despite all information available stating that EA would like to put games on Steam it is just Valve's stance on DLC preventing it
And you believe EA... Why? What does EA say other than "Heyyyy... we'd like our games on Steam, but they won't let us"? Why won't they let EA? Because EA want to restrict the manner in which their DLC is sold. I am getting tired of asking this, but I'll do so again...
Is there anywhere else that sells Mass Effect/Dragon Age DLC?
No, there isn't. Then ask yourself what the "restrictive" ToS that Steam have that applies to those games, and Crysis 2? Oh, wait, it's about selling related DLC.
So you are saying I shouldn't trust EA cause they are EA....... ya geat logic.
I believe EA's stance since it does make sense, and they have shown proof of it and there intentions that they would like to continue dealing with Valve.
Valve has said.......... nothing, and when you say nothing to defend your stance that normally implies that there is truth is what the other side, in this case EA, has stated.
I'm saying that EA is monopolistic in its attitudes to DLC. And that trusting a monopolistic company when it says "We'd like to sell our products other places" is a bit foolish (not that you are foolish, just it's not a very wise thing to do).
Also, Steam haven't replied because they don't tend to get involved in business arguments. Just like they don't tend to publicize sales figures. Though I do admire your logic that says "just because someone doesn't deny something, doesn't mean that it is wrong". <_<
So if you ask EA a question and EA doesn't answer it means they are up to something bad.
But if you ask Valve a question and Valve doesn't answer they are not responsible for anything.
My logic was based on evidnce provided, if Valve released a statement with evidence showing otherwise I would change to fit accordingly. You can't fault me for not making something up to fill in missing information that is needed.
Why not read? There are numerous posts in which gets linked to a statement from Gabe Newell. http://kotaku.com/58...polite-about-it
Proof from Valve that they want EA games on Steam, but that they cannot change their rules for one company. And those rules are not there for show. Also, why can't EA sell their DLC through steam and through their own services?
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