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[Mister Mida]

Mclouvins wrote...

Sales figures have nothing to do with it. TW2 was so consumer friendly that so many people took advantage of it that CDPR had to try ex post facto legal recourse. It's very possible that next time they may just opt for a form of DRM .

Actually, TW2 had DRM, but they tore it out when it was breaking the game's performance.

[Ryzaki]

Marionetten wrote...

Ottemis wrote...

We had to log into EA in ME2 for DLC verification.. the same for ME3 DLC and MP, exactly as could have been expected. EA login.. which was linked to your BSN and Bioware site login, how did this change ANYTHING, aside from the scared ramblings of people afraid they might be sued down to their last pair of socks for the amount of pirated stuff they have on their computer.

It didn't require me to install anything beyond the game itself. Why exactly should I have to fill up my computer with useless bloatware?

Agreed.

And worse still if this crap works you bet your ass other major companies will start doing it and there'll be even more bloatware to deal with.

That'll be fun.

[Mike Shepard]

Excuse my ignorance, but what exacty are you saying Origin does, and how is Steam any different. And don't just say "read the damn thread," I don't have enough time to read a constantly expanding 60+ page thread. I just want a basic answer,

1. What is so objectionable about Origin?
2. Why is it I've never had these issues?

Modifié par Mike Shepard, 14 janvier 2012 - 05:56 .

[Tup3x]

Ottemis wrote...

We had to log into EA in ME2 for DLC verification.. the same for ME3 DLC and MP, exactly as could have been expected. EA login.. which was linked to your BSN and Bioware site login, how did this change ANYTHING, aside from the scared ramblings of people afraid they might be sued down to their last pair of socks for the amount of pirated stuff they have on their computer.

+1 Also BSN, EA account, SWTOR account are all the same thing now - Origin account. The way they released DLC for ME2 PC version was messy. If they implement it through Origin that would be nice.

I think that people are pissed off about somewhat unclear EULA and that's it. EA should make things crystal clear and people would most likely stop whining.

It's funny what kind of **** storm Valve faced when Steam was released... Now this.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 14 janvier 2012 - 05:58 .

[Ryzaki]

Mike Shepard wrote...

Excuse my ignorance, but what exacty are you saying Origin does, and how is Steam any different. And don't just say "read the damn thread," I don't have enough time to read a constantly expanding 60+ page thread. I just want a basic answer,

1. What is so objectionable about Origin?
2. Why is it I've never had these issues?

Here.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 janvier 2012 - 05:57 .

[The Crazed]

*Has Origin*
*Is uninstalling Origin*

It's a shame that I can't play a game from a developer I love because you guys won't give me the option to buy it from Steam and avoid you looking through my computer and invading my privacy.

Unless this ridiculous DRM is removed I will not buy a single EA game that is involved with it, which will most likely be every single game they release for PC.

[Pixieking]

"We are intent on providing Mass Effect to players with the best possible
experience no matter where they purchase or play their game"

What I want to know is this:

Given the number of people here wanting ME3 on Steam, and the number who hope Origin activation is just that, activation, as well as the quote above (from the first post in the thread), will EA change their mind about the things we're complaining about? Because if they don't, then surely their claim in creating the "best possible experience no matter where they purchase or play their game" is patently false?

Modifié par Emoking, 14 janvier 2012 - 05:59 .

[slimgrin]

Daevos wrote...

Not putting the game on Steam is literally the worst decision I have ever seen a game company make, ever. The folks at EA are short-sighted, greedy, and resorting to desperate measures to push their floundering service. If you believe their claim that this is about Steam's "restrictive terms of service" then you are an idiot.

Yep. That wording makes me laugh, really.

[abaris]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

BSN has the highest population of drama queens and a few people who actually have ability to follow through with their threats of not buying but those are very few even when many proclaim to do so.

Believe me. I'm old enough to know my life doesn't depend on playing a game.

On the other hand I'm also old enough and knowledgeable enough to not throw around my personal information if I can help it. Hence avoiding facebook, google chrome and all that dung the industry wants us to use.

So, no. No client based games for me. Be it steam or Origin.

[Samuel James Vance]

Well thanks, bioware. thanks, EA! you just pushed a legitimate customer (and I assume, not the only one) to piracy.

no steam; no deal.

[KingDan97]

Daevos wrote...

Not putting the game on Steam is literally the worst decision I have ever seen a game company make, ever. The folks at EA are short-sighted, greedy, and resorting to desperate measures to push their floundering service. If you believe their claim that this is about Steam's "restrictive terms of service" then you are an idiot.

"Claims" that Mojang has made as well, Steam is being just as greedy in this scenario, demanding that they get a cut of any content sold for products on their system on a platform as open as PC. EA may be greedy here, but so is Steam and it's Valve's job to change for EA, because Valve is the one who wants EA's profits, not the other way around.

[Obro]

You could always buy a game then apply a crack over it and play it without Origin.

[MassStorm]

KingDan97 wrote...

Daevos wrote...

Not putting the game on Steam is literally the worst decision I have ever seen a game company make, ever. The folks at EA are short-sighted, greedy, and resorting to desperate measures to push their floundering service. If you believe their claim that this is about Steam's "restrictive terms of service" then you are an idiot.

"Claims" that Mojang has made as well, Steam is being just as greedy in this scenario, demanding that they get a cut of any content sold for products on their system on a platform as open as PC. EA may be greedy here, but so is Steam and it's Valve's job to change for EA, because Valve is the one who wants EA's profits, not the other way around.

+1

and to be honest is Steam that started with this freaking practice

Modifié par MassStorm, 14 janvier 2012 - 06:02 .

[Steafun]

teluial wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Yes, Origin is required for all PC editions of Mass Effect 3, physical or digital.

I'm sorry to hear that Mass Effect 3 was cancelled.

well said.

[Barbari_TMM]

you lost a sale and much more from a once loyal bioware customer

i bet a pirated version won't require origin

[Pixieking]

KingDan97 wrote...

Daevos wrote...

Not putting the game on Steam is literally the worst decision I have ever seen a game company make, ever. The folks at EA are short-sighted, greedy, and resorting to desperate measures to push their floundering service. If you believe their claim that this is about Steam's "restrictive terms of service" then you are an idiot.

"Claims" that Mojang has made as well, Steam is being just as greedy in this scenario, demanding that they get a cut of any content sold for products on their system on a platform as open as PC. EA may be greedy here, but so is Steam and it's Valve's job to change for EA, because Valve is the one who wants EA's profits, not the other way around.

It's not like EA isn't losing money from their games not being on Steam. Both sides are losing cash.

Modifié par Emoking, 14 janvier 2012 - 06:03 .

[KingDan97]

abaris wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

BSN has the highest population of drama queens and a few people who actually have ability to follow through with their threats of not buying but those are very few even when many proclaim to do so.

Believe me. I'm old enough to know my life doesn't depend on playing a game.

On the other hand I'm also old enough and knowledgeable enough to not throw around my personal information if I can help it. Hence avoiding facebook, google chrome and all that dung the industry wants us to use.

So, no. No client based games for me. Be it steam or Origin.

Google Chrome=tied for most secure large scale browser with Firefox
Old enough to know nothing.

[Ryzaki]

Like I said before I just want to buy the game and not have to install some unnecessary crap for me to be able to play.

I don't want to have to install Origin for EA games, Steam for Valve games, and then whoever comes up next for their games, so on and so on.

Especially not when I buy my games in physical boxes.

It's ****. Just because someone else does it doesn't make it any less ****.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 janvier 2012 - 06:04 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

Ottemis wrote...

We had to log into EA in ME2 for DLC verification.. the same for ME3 DLC and MP, exactly as could have been expected. EA login.. which was linked to your BSN and Bioware site login, how did this change ANYTHING, aside from the scared ramblings of people afraid they might be sued down to their last pair of socks for the amount of pirated stuff they have on their computer.

Oh look.  It's almost like every page of this thread is required to have someone who didn't bother to read the thread before posting and has not educated themselves.  Either that, or just a troll.  Not sure.

[KingDan97]

Emoking wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...

Daevos wrote...

Not putting the game on Steam is literally the worst decision I have ever seen a game company make, ever. The folks at EA are short-sighted, greedy, and resorting to desperate measures to push their floundering service. If you believe their claim that this is about Steam's "restrictive terms of service" then you are an idiot.

"Claims" that Mojang has made as well, Steam is being just as greedy in this scenario, demanding that they get a cut of any content sold for products on their system on a platform as open as PC. EA may be greedy here, but so is Steam and it's Valve's job to change for EA, because Valve is the one who wants EA's profits, not the other way around.

Iit's not like EA isn't losing money from their games not being on Steam. Both sides are losing cash.

But EA loses money per sale for each copy of the game they sell through Steam, because Valve takes a cut, whereas your average PC consumer would be willing to use Origin for ME3. They both lose money but the fact is that Valve is losing more money.

[ttchip]

Samuel James Vance wrote...

no steam; no deal.

this seems ohh so overly melodramatic... just wow ^.^

[Lux]

IsaacShep wrote...


2) Also, will I have to install Origin EVERY TIME I install Mass Effect 3, or after one time single authorization I will no longer have to install Origin ever again?

Looking closely at question #2, what would prevent a player from distributing copies? The DRM mechanism (Origin) should always be necessary in order to validate every new installation, or else there would be no point on having it. The ME3 executable will probably be hard coded to need Origin to run at least on every new install...

Modifié par Merkar, 14 janvier 2012 - 06:05 .

[Feanor_II]

IsaacShep wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

This deos not need to be stickied, just like previous Origin threads did not need to be stickied. If fans want to continue to discuss this, it will remain near the top of the forums.

Chris can we get answers on these questions? It's very importand to us

1) If we do not intend to use multiplayer, can we uninstall Origin after completing one time single authorization for the single player game?

2) Also, will I have to install Origin EVERY TIME I install Mass Effect 3, or after one time single authorization I will no longer have to install Origin ever again?

I think those questions are clearly answered :

1) Will Origin be a requirement to play all versions of Mass Effect 3? (Digital and/or from a retail brick and mortar store)
Yes, Origin is required for all PC editions of Mass Effect 3, physical or digital.



I understand that Origin acts as a kind of "root" from where the games "hang", the games are designed to be part of the Origin "container", so if you just cut the root the games won't work (That's only my deduction)

Modifié par Feanor_II, 14 janvier 2012 - 06:07 .

[Ottemis]

Incognito JC wrote...

Ottemis wrote...

We had to log into EA in ME2 for DLC verification.. the same for ME3 DLC and MP, exactly as could have been expected. EA login.. which was linked to your BSN and Bioware site login, how did this change ANYTHING, aside from the scared ramblings of people afraid they might be sued down to their last pair of socks for the amount of pirated stuff they have on their computer.

Read this. Seriously.

Heresay, speculation.
Use a workstation seperate from your gaming-pc if you want to make sure it's 'secure'.
This is and has been a gradual thing over years and years.

If they would DO anything with this info they might or might not be grabbing off my system without me knowing about it, do things with it in ways that would negatively impact me then yeah, I'm sure I'd be upset.
I just see zero evidence of that.

All i see is a bunch of people extremely afraid of something they're speculating might be true and happening.
Yes proof, balls, no proof. It's a bunch of people that haven't the foggiest about computer-processes in the end.
Raging about something that might be a nessecary part of determining something during install to best suit the user, instead we like to think the apocalypse has come round and the world is ending.

You know what my problem with this thread and people in general is?
Their obsession for negativity and seeing the worst in everybody and any situation.

You might think i'm pitiful posting what I do, that I have no respect for people's concearns but I do.., i just think this entire discussion is meaningless aslong as it's based on heresay, fear, speculation.