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[hangmans tree]

One more thing, maybe we should try our resolve and make a petition for EA to reconsider?
How many would sign?
http://petitionbureau.org/

[Ottemis]

Incognito JC wrote...

Ottemis wrote...

Allthough yes? It also makes you a miserable individual. And I mean that in therms of seeing shadows everywhere and losing the ability to be content with anything.
What's healthy is to not judge something before you realisticly can.

While I get that people are WARY, this is extreme and unnessecary.

I think you have mixed up people that are wary, like you said, and people with extreme paranoia. Consumers have the right to object to this, especially when we pay for it (and our money is involved).

You're objecting to the possibility something you fear they might do will actually happen.
While they might have the means to (as so MANY others do) There's nothing that suggests they will.
That makes this extreme, and you wary =P

[Ryzaki]

slimgrin wrote...

So with the whole banning thing. If you get banned from an EA forum, you can't access the game?

That's what it looks like. =/

I'm hoping that was just an old article and EA fixed that. Because if not...what the hell.

[Incognito JC]

slimgrin wrote...

So with the whole banning thing. If you get banned from an EA forum, you can't access the game?

From news articles on the net, if one gets banned from any of EA's official forums (meaning, the same account they use to post), your Origin account is banned as well. No more access to your games. Which is honestly quite ridiculous.

[NubXL]

EA has assumed direct control. We need to stop them and save BioWare. Although, I fear it may already be too late.

[Pixieking]

KingDan97 wrote...

Well I doubt it's a matter of "how much" so much as it may be a wait and see plan, people are generally weak in their convictions and in 3-4 years if it looks like Origin is here to stay(and with it netting a few third party devs I'd say it already looks that way) people will cave, who those people are is not for me to say, it could be consumers, it could be Valve, but regardless, if Origin starts pulling people in(and with 3 huge releases requiring Origin it will, just like Valve did by forcing Steam on people through Half-Life 2 in a much more broken state) the landscape will change and people will be less opposed to it over time, especially since there's no concrete way for EA to say "well if we were on Steam we would've gotten X thousand more copies sold."

Yeah... Though, I would hope by 3 or 4 years time, with Origin more secure, EA will relent and place games like ME3 onto Steam. After all, if they've already got all the major sales from it, releasing on Steam is just gravy (see, for instance, Fable: The Lost Chapters recent Steam release).

[legion999]

Why do I have a feeling that this thread will be locked?

[f1r3storm]

Marionetten wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

I don't think so.

Looked at the user scores for recent BioWare titles? The current opinion on BioWare is hardly flowers and sunshine.

Their brand has undeniably been harmed by EA's practices. It doesn't help that EA is slapping BioWare on as many new studios as they possibly can.

Too bad user scores aren't really meaningful anymore at all nowadays.

[aridor1570]

Ryzaki wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

Marionetten wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

I don't think so.

Looked at the user scores for recent BioWare titles? The current opinion on BioWare is hardly flowers and sunshine.

Their brand has undeniably been harmed by EA's practices. It doesn't help that EA is slapping BioWare on as many new studios as they possibly can.

Your only valid point is DA2, but it had a short development time and was rushed as hell, and oh don't you dare bring up SWTOR, the thing that's happening to it is something that has been happening to all MMOs in the past, not just SWTOR.

What's wrong with SWTOR? 

Nothing unusual, you see, MMO players feel as if there can't be more than one MMO in the market, so, to make the game look bad, they give a low review in metacritic, claiming they've played the game, but mostly write false things about it, happened with every MMO post-WoW, including SWTOR.

[Candidate 88766]

Incognito JC wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

So with the whole banning thing. If you get banned from an EA forum, you can't access the game?

From news articles on the net, if one gets banned from any of EA's official forums (meaning, the same account they use to post), your Origin account is banned as well. No more access to your games. Which is honestly quite ridiculous.

That is pretty ridiculous.

Best just to stay away from any official EA forums.

[Ryzaki]

Emoking wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...

Well I doubt it's a matter of "how much" so much as it may be a wait and see plan, people are generally weak in their convictions and in 3-4 years if it looks like Origin is here to stay(and with it netting a few third party devs I'd say it already looks that way) people will cave, who those people are is not for me to say, it could be consumers, it could be Valve, but regardless, if Origin starts pulling people in(and with 3 huge releases requiring Origin it will, just like Valve did by forcing Steam on people through Half-Life 2 in a much more broken state) the landscape will change and people will be less opposed to it over time, especially since there's no concrete way for EA to say "well if we were on Steam we would've gotten X thousand more copies sold."

Yeah... Though, I would hope by 3 or 4 years time, with Origin more secure, EA will relent and place games like ME3 onto Steam. After all, if they've already got all the major sales from it, releasing on Steam is just gravy (see, for instance, Fable: The Lost Chapters recent Steam release).

Wait really? 

[Marionetten]

f1r3storm wrote...

Too bad user scores aren't really meaningful anymore at all nowadays.

I'd say they're far more meaningful than review scores submitted by reviewers receiving 1000 dollar care packages from publishers.

[Ryzaki]

aridor1570 wrote...
Nothing unusual, you see, MMO players feel as if there can't be more than one MMO in the market, so, to make the game look bad, they give a low review in metacritic, claiming they've played the game, but mostly write false things about it, happened with every MMO post-WoW, including SWTOR.

Oh okay because I've heard nothing but good things about it. (save a few bugs). So I was wondering...heck I'm planning on getting it myself.

[Snelle Jaap]

Ryzaki wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

http://www.gamespot....on-call-6344711
I wish some companies would take heed...

And more... the bans which come with Origin account locked and gamers cut off their games:
www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/12/05/ea-origin-bans-update-edition/
a more detailed EA vs gamer adventure:
www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.328868-EA-now-issuing-permanent-Origin-bans-through-content-filter
Am I still not be worried about all this sh!t you drag us through?
What say you?

...please tell me the bolded was fixed? I don't see why being banned from a forum should restrict access to a single player game.

That !
More reasons for me to buy Me3 / KOA /DA 3 any EA title really

[Incognito JC]

Ottemis wrote...

You're objecting to the possibility something you fear they might do will actually happen.
While they might have the means to (as so MANY others do) There's nothing that suggests they will.
That makes this extreme, and you wary =P

Valid point. Keep it mind though, there is nothing that will suggest they won't.

When it comes to parting with my hard earned money, I can be very wary >.>

[Pixieking]

Ryzaki wrote...

Emoking wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...

Well I doubt it's a matter of "how much" so much as it may be a wait and see plan, people are generally weak in their convictions and in 3-4 years if it looks like Origin is here to stay(and with it netting a few third party devs I'd say it already looks that way) people will cave, who those people are is not for me to say, it could be consumers, it could be Valve, but regardless, if Origin starts pulling people in(and with 3 huge releases requiring Origin it will, just like Valve did by forcing Steam on people through Half-Life 2 in a much more broken state) the landscape will change and people will be less opposed to it over time, especially since there's no concrete way for EA to say "well if we were on Steam we would've gotten X thousand more copies sold."

Yeah... Though, I would hope by 3 or 4 years time, with Origin more secure, EA will relent and place games like ME3 onto Steam. After all, if they've already got all the major sales from it, releasing on Steam is just gravy (see, for instance, Fable: The Lost Chapters recent Steam release).

Wait really? 

Yeah, really!

http://store.steampo...com/app/204030/

I honestly can wait until ME3 is in the same position as Fable:TLC. Got enough games to be getting on with. And I'm 100% certain it'll happen eventually.

[KingDan97]

Emoking wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...

Well I doubt it's a matter of "how much" so much as it may be a wait and see plan, people are generally weak in their convictions and in 3-4 years if it looks like Origin is here to stay(and with it netting a few third party devs I'd say it already looks that way) people will cave, who those people are is not for me to say, it could be consumers, it could be Valve, but regardless, if Origin starts pulling people in(and with 3 huge releases requiring Origin it will, just like Valve did by forcing Steam on people through Half-Life 2 in a much more broken state) the landscape will change and people will be less opposed to it over time, especially since there's no concrete way for EA to say "well if we were on Steam we would've gotten X thousand more copies sold."

Yeah... Though, I would hope by 3 or 4 years time, with Origin more secure, EA will relent and place games like ME3 onto Steam. After all, if they've already got all the major sales from it, releasing on Steam is just gravy (see, for instance, Fable: The Lost Chapters recent Steam release).

I'd say that EA games hitting Steam will be due to Valve changing it's policies, since more and more developers are likely waiting to see how Origin pans out and then they'll likely open their own storefronts to help "stay connected to their consumers."

[Pixieking]

Sofia Lamb wrote...

f1r3storm wrote...

Too bad user scores aren't really meaningful anymore at all nowadays.

Indeed. It really doesn't take much effort to write a weak review and rate the product a zero.

Like official magazines write a weak review and rate the product 94%. :innocent:

Modifié par Emoking, 14 janvier 2012 - 06:36 .

[Chuvvy]

Wow, EA really wants their business to fail don't they? Origin required even for retail copies, I'm sure that can't go wrong. ****ing idiots.

[Sundance31us]

AwesomeName wrote...
I guess it doesn't really matter that much anyway - I've just decided to move anything sensitive to my workstation and keep my gaming computer a gaming computer

This is the best thing to do; I would also recommend using gift cards (register on the work computer) for purchases made via the games computer.

[CAPSLOCK FURY]

Ryzaki wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

So with the whole banning thing. If you get banned from an EA forum, you can't access the game?

That's what it looks like. =/

I'm hoping that was just an old article and EA fixed that. Because if not...what the hell.

It was fixed pretty fast, people just don't like to point that out. It was a mistake, something that lesser beings make from time to time.

The reason they have to be careful is because of the way the EAID works, since that's the masterkey, as it were, mistakenly banning that would lead to not being able to use anything EA.

[Dragoonlordz]

CAPSLOCK FURY wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

It is not trolling to have a different opinion. Slightly surprised you don't appear to know the difference. 

That's because having a different opinion, or actually using your brain instead of swallowing whatever Escapist shoves in your mouth, is considered trolling for a certain group of circlejerking fanboys.

I can understand some people throwing hissy fits over this (not everyone likes or is not offended by the same things) including those who are using their free will and freedom of choice to buy or not buy even if I personally think 90% of the people throwing toys out the pram are making threats they have zero intention of keeping which in turn makes that 10% remaining who do stick to their convictions seem vastly less credible (they did it with DA2, did it with femshep, did it with homosexuality and did it with the optional buy or not figurine plus now origin). At some point such threats lose credibility when almost all of them are just huffing and puffing with a few exceptions. Then there is the worst type, the fearmongers and paranoid. Those ones must live a very, very unhappy life to be so afraid and bitter all the time.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 janvier 2012 - 06:39 .

[slimgrin]

Incognito JC wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

So with the whole banning thing. If you get banned from an EA forum, you can't access the game?

From news articles on the net, if one gets banned from any of EA's official forums (meaning, the same account they use to post), your Origin account is banned as well. No more access to your games. Which is honestly quite ridiculous.

Then Chris should include this info in the OP. One might say it's important. 

And yes, if true, this is beyond ridiculous. I've never heard of a game company doing this before. Now what we say on a forum can mean we get denied access to a game we've bought? Where the hell are we, North Korea?

Modifié par slimgrin, 14 janvier 2012 - 06:38 .