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[CAPSLOCK FURY]

Slidell505 wrote...

Wow, EA really wants their business to fail don't they? Origin required even for retail copies, I'm sure that can't go wrong. ****ing idiots.

I sure hope you're not going to cry.

[Incognito JC]

Emoking wrote...

Yeah, really!

http://store.steampo...com/app/204030/

I honestly can wait until ME3 is in the same position as Fable:TLC. Got enough games to be getting on with. And I'm 100% certain it'll happen eventually.

This is so off topic, and this is good news. If I ever lose my 4-CD F:TLC physical copy, I can get it back from there

[Ottemis]

Incognito JC wrote...

Ottemis wrote...

You're objecting to the possibility something you fear they might do will actually happen.
While they might have the means to (as so MANY others do) There's nothing that suggests they will.
That makes this extreme, and you wary =P

Valid point. Keep it mind though, there is nothing that will suggest they won't.

When it comes to parting with my hard earned money, I can be very wary >.>

Well this was a glass half full/ half empty discussion from the get-go wasen't it.
I'm just saying, don't get too afraid of sh*t potentially biting you in the ass.. while you might be right and they might, they also might not and while you were worrying about all these things you're missing out.

I also think, and this goes a bit too deep for this discussion but hey... that this wary-ness and inherent distrust is a serious concearn for people, in general. Society as a whole.

[ArsenalMark1]

Welp, that's my pre-order cancelled. Shame.

[abaris]

KingDan97 wrote...
I'd say that EA games hitting Steam will be due to Valve changing it's policies, since more and more developers are likely waiting to see how Origin pans out and then they'll likely open their own storefronts to help "stay connected to their consumers."

And at some point you end up granting access to a dozen clients doing whatever they're doing.

Nice prospect.

[KingDan97]

Emoking wrote...

Sofia Lamb wrote...

f1r3storm wrote...

Too bad user scores aren't really meaningful anymore at all nowadays.

Indeed. It really doesn't take much effort to write a weak review and rate the product a zero.

Like official magazines write a weak review and rate the product 94%. :innocent:

My general feelings towards Metacritic are apathetic, my opinion is find a reviewer with whom you seem to share common feelings on genres and then go with them. Demos are always nice of course.

[hangmans tree]

Ryzaki wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

http://www.gamespot....on-call-6344711
I wish some companies would take heed...

And more... the bans which come with Origin account locked and gamers cut off their games:
www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/12/05/ea-origin-bans-update-edition/
a more detailed EA vs gamer adventure:
www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.328868-EA-now-issuing-permanent-Origin-bans-through-content-filter
Am I still not be worried about all this sh!t you drag us through?
What say you?

...please tell me the bolded was fixed? I don't see why being banned from a forum should restrict access to a single player game.

EA keeps silent on their banning policy for months even RPS tries to contact them in this matter... with no reply in a loong time.

And YES, its like that, even when you shouldnt be affected from forum ban it happens that people get locked frome their games sometimes for trivial things, some get a perma-ban and account deletion (meaning loosing all their games).
Its so ****ed up I dont even know how to comment this 'customer friendly' approach.

So I ask again, how can EA reassure me of anything if they can not handle their inner policies and procedures? And there goes changing EULAS at ones whim...

[Chuvvy]

Snelle Jaap wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

http://www.gamespot....on-call-6344711
I wish some companies would take heed...

And more... the bans which come with Origin account locked and gamers cut off their games:
www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/12/05/ea-origin-bans-update-edition/
a more detailed EA vs gamer adventure:
www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.328868-EA-now-issuing-permanent-Origin-bans-through-content-filter
Am I still not be worried about all this sh!t you drag us through?
What say you?

...please tell me the bolded was fixed? I don't see why being banned from a forum should restrict access to a single player game.

That !
More reasons for me to buy Me3 / KOA /DA 3 any EA title really

You should hear what they're pulling with TOR, banning people for cursing in a private chat, banning low level people for going into high level areas, the list goes on. EA can't keep screwing PC users like this and expect anyone but the most blind of fanboys to come back. They'll be the new Ubisoft.

[Sundance31us]

Incognito JC wrote...
From news articles on the net, if one gets banned from any of EA's official forums (meaning, the same account they use to post), your Origin account is banned as well. No more access to your games. Which is honestly quite ridiculous.

The same thing can happen on xbox and you will not be refunded the cost for any unused portion of your membership.

[In Exile]

Marionetten wrote...
They got hosed? The Witcher 2 sold better than Dragon Age II on the PC. It also sold better than some high profile console exclusives like inFAMOUS 2.

The word you are looking for is doubled (well, almost), at least according to some sources.*

I don't know what you're talking about with inFAMOUS 2. It looks like it tripled TW2 on vgchartz, though with digital copies included I'd wager it was closer to doubling it.



*vgchartz has TW2 at 671,467 and DA2 at 397,550. I would wager that, with digital downloads included, this # is double or more. inFAMOUS 2 is at 1,782,998.

[CAPSLOCK FURY]

hangmans tree wrote...

EA keeps silent on their banning policy for months even RPS tries to contact them in this matter... with no reply in a loong time.

And YES, its like that, even when you shouldnt be affected from forum ban it happens that people get locked frome their games sometimes for trivial things, some get a perma-ban and account deletion (meaning loosing all their games).
Its so ****ed up I dont even know how to comment this 'customer friendly' approach.

So I ask again, how can EA reassure me of anything if they can not handle their inner policies and procedures? And there goes changing EULAS at ones whim...

Yeah no reply, aside from, you know the entire other article about them fixing the guy's ban.

[Ryzaki]

Emoking wrote...
Yeah, really!

http://store.steampo...com/app/204030/

I honestly can wait until ME3 is in the same position as Fable:TLC. Got enough games to be getting on with. And I'm 100% certain it'll happen eventually.

LMAO

That's glorious.

CAPSLOCK FURY wrote...It was fixed pretty fast, people just don't like to point that out. It was a mistake, something that lesser beings make from time to time.

The reason they have to be careful is because of the way the EAID works, since that's the masterkey, as it
were, mistakenly banning that would lead to not being able to use anything EA.

Good because yeah...that wouldn't have ended well for me.

KingDan97 wrote...
I'd say that EA games hitting Steam will be due to Valve changing it's policies, since more and more developers are
likely waiting to see how Origin pans out and then they'll likely open their own storefronts to help "stay connected to their consumers."

Yeah that'll be fun.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 janvier 2012 - 06:42 .

[Chuvvy]

CAPSLOCK FURY wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Wow, EA really wants their business to fail don't they? Origin required even for retail copies, I'm sure that can't go wrong. ****ing idiots.

I sure hope you're not going to cry.

You are definition of a biodrone.

Modifié par Slidell505, 14 janvier 2012 - 06:42 .

[ArkkAngel007]

Ottemis wrote...

Incognito JC wrote...

Ottemis wrote...

We had to log into EA in ME2 for DLC verification.. the same for ME3 DLC and MP, exactly as could have been expected. EA login.. which was linked to your BSN and Bioware site login, how did this change ANYTHING, aside from the scared ramblings of people afraid they might be sued down to their last pair of socks for the amount of pirated stuff they have on their computer.

Read this. Seriously.

Heresay, speculation.
Use a workstation seperate from your gaming-pc if you want to make sure it's 'secure'.
This is and has been a gradual thing over years and years.

If they would DO anything with this info they might or might not be grabbing off my system without me knowing about it, do things with it in ways that would negatively impact me then yeah, I'm sure I'd be upset.
I just see zero evidence of that.

All i see is a bunch of people extremely afraid of something they're speculating might be true and happening.
Yes proof, balls, no proof. It's a bunch of people that haven't the foggiest about computer-processes in the end.
Raging about something that might be a nessecary part of determining something during install to best suit the user, instead we like to think the apocalypse has come round and the world is ending.

You know what my problem with this thread and people in general is?
Their obsession for negativity and seeing the worst in everybody and any situation.

You might think i'm pitiful posting what I do, that I have no respect for people's concearns but I do.., i just think this entire discussion is meaningless aslong as it's based on heresay, fear, speculation.

Ding ding ding!

Now, granted, there is evidence that Origin does go through your files...just like Steam, anti-virus programs, etc.  Really, all that has to be done is to overhaul the EULA that says that you may be asked for permission to divulge SPECIFIC information to third parties, aka the product you are playing or the model PC you are using.  The big issue is just a crap EULA that EA hasn't bothered to take huge steps with their legal department to refine and make it sound for their consumers.

Everything else, such as them taking your taxes, bank statements, passwords on other programs, porn, etc. is just a load of fear mongering.  Scanning the files for key hit spots is a lot different than copying and sending the file information.

Now, I for one hate DRMs and online distribution.  While it makes things easier, the tradeoff is what once was my right as a customer to own and use that product whenever I wanted is now being dictated by these companies that make me pay the same amount for a retail copy and the same amount for what games cost before these forms of DRM.  What I'm paying for instead of ownership of a product is basically a perpetual rental of a product that can be terminated on someone's say so.

But my experience in this industry and as a conservative consumer doesn't allow me to swallow either PR or fan propaganda.  You all have your opinions, which is perfectly fine.  But don't push on to people your opinion as fact unless you fully understand what you are talking about.  

So I will be using Origin since DRMs, as long as Steam continues to be successful, will not be going anywhere, and I will support BioWare as being an excellant game developer and source of art.   

If you feel so passionate on the issue, blow up EA corporate phones telling them that if they do not alter the EULA on Origin and release specifics on what Origin does/does not gather on consumer systems, that there will be an organized campaign, both consumer and legal, against their product until the matter is soundly resolved.  That will speak more than not buying products that hurt not so much the publisher, but the developers.

[KingDan97]

abaris wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...
I'd say that EA games hitting Steam will be due to Valve changing it's policies, since more and more developers are likely waiting to see how Origin pans out and then they'll likely open their own storefronts to help "stay connected to their consumers."

And at some point you end up granting access to a dozen clients doing whatever they're doing.

Nice prospect.

Did I say it was an ideal? No. What I said is that it's likely that's how it will go if Origin runs well.

Note that even if they all get their own storefronts there's a good chance you'll be able to pull them all through Steam and then pull the DLC down through in-game menus, which is(at least in my opinion) a much more convenient option than current systems of dealing with store pages.

[Ryzaki]

abaris wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...
I'd say that EA games hitting Steam will be due to Valve changing it's policies, since more and more developers are likely waiting to see how Origin pans out and then they'll likely open their own storefronts to help "stay connected to their consumers."

And at some point you end up granting access to a dozen clients doing whatever they're doing.

Nice prospect.

All that bloatware.

My poor comp!

[Incognito JC]

Ottemis wrote...

I'm just saying, don't get too afraid of sh*t potentially biting you in the ass.. while you might be right and they might, they also might not and while you were worrying about all these things you're missing out.

I also think, and this goes a bit too deep for this discussion but hey... that this wary-ness and inherent distrust is a serious concearn for people, in general. Society as a whole.

Don't get me wrong, I won't be missing out on ME3. At this point, it's whether I should still get the ME3 CE on launch or not. Eventually, either Origin would flop, or they will prove to be a trusted program. Being wary just delays the entertainment bit a little, not devoid of it entirely.

Off topic, but yes, distrust is vast and common, and humanity's actions have endorsed it.

[KingDan97]

Slidell505 wrote...

You should hear what they're pulling with TOR, banning people for cursing in a private chat, banning low level people for going into high level areas, the list goes on. EA can't keep screwing PC users like this and expect anyone but the most blind of fanboys to come back. They'll be the new Ubisoft.

Cursing is against the games ToS, private or public, and they went into high level areas to exploit the loot there and unbalance the economy.

So yeah.

[Ryzaki]

Sundance31us wrote...

Incognito JC wrote...
From news articles on the net, if one gets banned from any of EA's official forums (meaning, the same account they use to post), your Origin account is banned as well. No more access to your games. Which is honestly quite ridiculous.

The same thing can happen on xbox and you will not be refunded the cost for any unused portion of your membership.

Yeah there was a reason I stayed away from Xbox Live. Thankfully Xbox Live isn't required for single player games last I checked.

[CAPSLOCK FURY]

Slidell505 wrote...

You should hear what they're pulling with TOR, banning people for cursing in a private chat, banning low level people for going into high level areas, the list goes on. EA can't keep screwing PC users like this and expect anyone but the most blind of fanboys to come back. They'll be the new Ubisoft.

HERE WE GO! Omg bleat more sheep.

Perfect example of the current mentality of the "majority" of vocal gamers right here. Read something on blog, it has to be true.

Time for some education bucko. Those bans were all debunked as being falsified or omitting key facts. Low level characters were EXPLOITING a system that has since been patched. Keyword : EXPLOITING in case you missed it. Why were they low level? So that people could use them on another account and mail their mains stuff without getting banned on the main account.

Cursing in chat? Try just no. He was involved in a scam. He wasn't banned for "cursing in chat".

Also try learning what fanboy means before trying to use it, because you, sir, are a fanboy.

[Ryzaki]

Slidell505 wrote...
You should hear what they're pulling with TOR, banning people for cursing in a private chat, banning low level people for going into high level areas, the list goes on. EA can't keep screwing PC users like this and expect anyone but the most blind of fanboys to come back. They'll be the new Ubisoft.

I don't think they're that bad.

[Ryzaki]

KingDan97 wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

You should hear what they're pulling with TOR, banning people for cursing in a private chat, banning low level people for going into high level areas, the list goes on. EA can't keep screwing PC users like this and expect anyone but the most blind of fanboys to come back. They'll be the new Ubisoft.

Cursing is against the games ToS, private or public, and they went into high level areas to exploit the loot there and unbalance the economy.

So yeah.

Okay this makes more sense.

Though you can't curse in private chat in TOR? Eh... I have a bad habit of swearing. 

[CAPSLOCK FURY]

Slidell505 wrote...

CAPSLOCK FURY wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Wow, EA really wants their business to fail don't they? Origin required even for retail copies, I'm sure that can't go wrong. ****ing idiots.

I sure hope you're not going to cry.

You are definition of a biodrone.

You are the definition of a fanboy, sheep, and a multitude of other words. Most of them meaning that you have absolutely no personality or thoughts of your own and you prefer to be led around blindly through life believing anything some truther nut tells you.

[KingDan97]

Ryzaki wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

You should hear what they're pulling with TOR, banning people for cursing in a private chat, banning low level people for going into high level areas, the list goes on. EA can't keep screwing PC users like this and expect anyone but the most blind of fanboys to come back. They'll be the new Ubisoft.

Cursing is against the games ToS, private or public, and they went into high level areas to exploit the loot there and unbalance the economy.

So yeah.

Okay this makes more sense.

Though you can't curse in private chat in TOR? Eh... I have a bad habit of swearing. 

I hadn't heard of the "cursing" but according to capslock, he was involved in scamming people.

Modifié par KingDan97, 14 janvier 2012 - 06:48 .

[Incognito JC]

KingDan97 wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

You should hear what they're pulling with TOR, banning people for cursing in a private chat, banning low level people for going into high level areas, the list goes on. EA can't keep screwing PC users like this and expect anyone but the most blind of fanboys to come back. They'll be the new Ubisoft.

Cursing is against the games ToS, private or public, and they went into high level areas to exploit the loot there and unbalance the economy.

So yeah.

Hah, I've recently read that they were banning people who used the dance emote in hostile areas. Just because the /getdown dance command makes them invincible to attacks while dancing. The official response was, "thou art banned if thou dance in the non-dance zone". I had a good laugh.