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[ifander]

Emoking wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

You don't uninstall steam or impulse once you've purshase and download do you ? Same apply with Origin.

Actually, up until Battlefield 3, you could do this. BF3 forces Origin to be installed, open and running, if you want to play. People are rightfully curious whether ME3 will be like BF3, or, Say, ME2.

I do seem to recall being able to uninstall EADM a while back, with the games still installed. 

[Splinter Cell 108]

Ryzaki wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Wait...you can't opt out of the data collection in general? 

Of course not. EA wants free marketing data and they won't stop unless they're forced like in Germany

What I don't understand is why someone else doesn't force them too? Why hasn't this been a big issue in the US? Isn't there supposed to be laws against this or something?

As if the US gov't really cares. I'd be surprised if they weren't doing things like this themselves.

I meant the people themselves.

[Weskerr]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Jonas TM wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Chris Priestly - If we do not intend to use multiplayer, can we uninstall Origin after completing one time, single authorization for the single player game?

Thirding this.  I am not opting in for Origin datamining.  If I can't kill it after ME3 is installed... well as much as an inconvience it is there is this box that is filled with sand.

You don't uninstall steam or impulse once you've purshase and download do you ? Same apply with Origin.

I agree with Imperium Alpha. They wouldn't go through all this trouble of making you install Origin only to allow you to uninstall it after authenticating the game.

Modifié par Weskerr, 14 janvier 2012 - 12:41 .

[Pixieking]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Flamestalker-NL wrote...

Well I guess I have to spend my money elsewhere, have fun with less money EA

Don't worry I'm pretty sure they will sell more than ME2.  After all they don't need you pc player they've got ps3 player now! 

Ah, wait until all the PS3 players decide to pick it up second hand from Gamestop, or Game.

[goofyomnivore]

Actually, up until Battlefield 3, you could do this. BF3 forces Origin to be installed, open and running, if you want to play. People are rightfully curious whether ME3 will be like BF3, or, Say, ME2.

ME2 had EA account authorization. ME3 will only have Origin authorization to manage DLC and whatnot. I'd be surprised if they let you uninstall Origin and make the game use-able. It would defeat the function of Origin.

[Pixieking]

ifander wrote...

Emoking wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

You don't uninstall steam or impulse once you've purshase and download do you ? Same apply with Origin.

Actually, up until Battlefield 3, you could do this. BF3 forces Origin to be installed, open and running, if you want to play. People are rightfully curious whether ME3 will be like BF3, or, Say, ME2.

I do seem to recall being able to uninstall EADM a while back, with the games still installed. 

Yeah, I did it with both ME2 and a Need for Speed game.

[Jaron Oberyn]

What part of its required for single and multi play do you guys not understand? If you want to play mass effect on the pc, you will need origin. Period.


-Polite

[Pixieking]

strive wrote...

Actually, up until Battlefield 3, you could do this. BF3 forces Origin to be installed, open and running, if you want to play. People are rightfully curious whether ME3 will be like BF3, or, Say, ME2.

ME2 had EA account authorization. ME3 will only have Origin authorization to manage DLC and whatnot. I'd be surprised if they let you uninstall Origin and make the game use-able. It would defeat the function of Origin.

I see nothing that says Origin will manage DLC.

[shepskisaac]

I'm done with specilations and "what we think". I want concrete answers.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 14 janvier 2012 - 02:27 .

[goofyomnivore]

I see nothing that says Origin will manage DLC.

Other than the fact that an EA account is now called an Origin account?

If they allowed you to unistall the client. You could just split the cost of the dlc and game with your friends and use one account if you didn't give a damn about multiplayer.

I seriously doubt they're going to make people who do run Origin confrim DLC/game that way and then make them log in again to confirm it once they booted up the game.

Modifié par strive, 14 janvier 2012 - 12:46 .

[didymos1120]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

What part of its required for single and multi play do you guys not understand? If you want to play mass effect on the pc, you will need origin. Period.


-Polite

There's "required to be installed because we wrote the installer that way" and "required to be running because we wrote the game that way".  They aren't the same thing.

[Pixieking]

strive wrote...

I see nothing that says Origin will manage DLC.

Other than the fact that an EA account is now called an Origin account?

Yeah, that proves nothing. EADM was given a name-change. So what? Still the same basic software behind it.

Or, to put it another way. EA account has been called Origin account for months now. Where's the Mass Effect 2 DLC on Origin? Oh, right - they haven't got it up on Origin.

[Ryzaki]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I meant the people themselves.

They're too busy arguing about stupid crap that 99.9999% of the time has nothing to do with them. Sadly.

[didymos1120]

strive wrote...

I see nothing that says Origin will manage DLC.

Other than the fact that an EA account is now called an Origin account?

That doesn't prove anything. We currently have no idea whether we'll have to buy and download DLC via the Origin client or not.

[Brockololly]

Wulfram wrote...
They're still selling plenty of pre-orders.  And I'd guess they make a whole bunch more money on stuff sold directly through Origin.  Plus once people start interacting with Origin, the theory is that they'll buy other stuff there.

And EA really don't want to get to a situation where Steam has the power to dictate terms to them.

Of course, they'd surely do better if they gave us some reasons to actually want to buy stuff from Origin.  Or just one big reason - attractive pricing.

But you can't look at the numbers Valve just released about Steam and the Holiday Sale and not realize ME3 would sell tons more if it was on Steam.

Sure, EA will make more revenue per copy sold selling on Origin as opposed to Steam, but especially with Steam's well publicized sales and being the biggest DD marketplace, the absolute increase in volume of sales would likely outweigh any extra ~30% or so you'd be getting by limiting it through Origin. It just seems like EA is being greedy with not wanting to let Steam sell any DLC directly or do patches through them.

Just as an example, an indie dev posted on NeoGaf during the Holiday Sale when his game, Sequence went up as a daily deal:

Obviously, prices dipping down hardly means less overall revenue. By my  calculations, Sequence made 366 times more revenue during its Daily Deal hours than a normal sales day. Say it aloud, it's crazy: over thirty  six THOUSAND percent.

Was a lot of that due to exposure, and not a mere price drop? Yes. Does this matter, in terms of final revenue? No.

Then you had the stat from CD Projekt that something like 70 or 80% of all Witcher 2 digital copies were sold through Steam. EA is just silly to not support Steam, whatever issues they may have with Valve.

My problem with Origin as it exists is that it does not provide any value to my gaming experience, it comes across as a clunky version of Steam and you still have the whole "Get banned on any EA forum and get locked out of your Origin games" deal.  I'd rather not bother with it.

IsaacShep wrote...

I'm done with specilations and "what we think". I want concrete answers.

Chris Priestly - If we do not intend to use multiplayer, can we uninstall  Origin after completing one time, single authorization for the single  player game?

A good question.

Modifié par Brockololly, 14 janvier 2012 - 12:49 .

[Splinter Cell 108]

Ryzaki wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I meant the people themselves.

They're too busy arguing about stupid crap that 99.9999% of the time has nothing to do with them. Sadly.

I guess we're screwed then, this means I'll probably have to consider other options now unless Origin can be uninstalled after authorization. 

[goofyomnivore]

That doesn't prove anything. We currently have no idea whether we'll have to buy and download DLC via the Origin client or not.

Why would they require you to install Origin at all? Why not just manage authorization and DLC through EA account log in? Do you think they get kicks out of making people jump through unnecessary hoops?

It doesn't "prove it" but it sounds illogical. The reason they don't manage Mass Effect 2 DLC is because it works through the EA account and not Origin. Now EA account = Origin that variable no longer exists.

Modifié par strive, 14 janvier 2012 - 12:53 .

[Pixieking]

Brockololly wrote...

My problem with Origin as it exists is that it does not provide any value to my gaming experience, it comes across as a clunky version of Steam and you still have the whole "Get banned on any EA forum and get locked out of your Origin games" deal.  I'd rather not bother with it.

Yup, all true. They haven't even got Origin to accept older EA games. As noted elsewhere, I can't register my copy of ME1 on Origin, because it's too old. And then there's the DLC that has to be bought and downloaded seperately, and the fact that Origin locked me out of my own account because it thought my password was wrong (I had to reset it to get access back). And, finally, the fact that Steam actually makes the gaming experience more pleasurable. I don't think anyone could call Origin pleasurable, even if they didn't have problems with it.

[shepskisaac]

strive wrote...

Do you think they get kicks out of making people jump through unnecessary hoops?

Urhm, we're talking EA. the answer is YES.

[charmingcharlie]

Well we finally got the answer we knew was coming.  This now means that EA will join Ubisoft in being companies I refuse to buy products or support in anyway financially.  I can only hope when EA sees a drop of 90% in PC revenues (as Ubisoft has seen) they do the intelligent thing and understand your customers do not want Origin.

Such a shame I won't get to play Mass Effect 3 but Origin is way too high a price to pay.

[OdanUrr]

strive wrote...

That doesn't prove anything. We currently have no idea whether we'll have to buy and download DLC via the Origin client or not.

Why would they require you to install Origin at all? Why not just manage authorization and DLC through EA account log in? Do you think they get kicks out of making people jump through unnecessary hoops?

Well, since they believe PC piracy to be rampant, they may consider the worst-case scenario to be people switching to console gaming, which would still be a win.

[Pixieking]

strive wrote...

That doesn't prove anything. We currently have no idea whether we'll have to buy and download DLC via the Origin client or not.

Why would they require you to install Origin at all? Why not just manage authorization and DLC through EA account log in? Do you think they get kicks out of making people jump through unnecessary hoops?

They're forcing people to use Origin because they want a competitor to Steam. That doesn't mean they'll make it a good experience for the end user.

"I think the fans, the people that have to use it in the early going, are the ones that get it last in regards to what we are trying to do." EA COO Peter Moore ( http://www.smh.com.a...1018-1ltw8.html )

Modifié par Emoking, 14 janvier 2012 - 12:54 .

[Darth Death]

Plug n Play 4 life.

[shepskisaac]

OdanUrr wrote...

Well, since they believe PC piracy to be rampant, they may consider the worst-case scenario to be people switching to console gaming, which would still be a win.

Yet when Ubisoft's PC sales plummeted 90% after the introduction of all their amazing anti-piracy ideas, there was no corresponding lift in console sales. Conclusion? Many people simply stopped buying Ubisoft games AT ALL.