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[Pixieking]

dbrw wrote...

I don't understand why you guys are so angry about the game not being available to purchase on a specific store and the requeriment of using Origin ( Steamworks games need Steam Client).
After using Origin I started my EA collection and I'm happy to use both Steam and Origin.
Of course Steam has better features but Origin is still in beta

"EA Downloader was launched in late 2005.[8] It was replaced by EA Link
in November 2006, adding trailers, demos and special content to the
content delivery service. In September 2007, it was once again replaced
by the combination of EA Store and EA Download Manager.[9] Users purchase from the EA Store website and use the downloadable EADM client to download their games.[10] Games bought via EA Link was downloadable using the EA Download Manager.[11] The store and client was reopened under the Origin name on June 3, 2011"

Yup. Totally beta.

[mcneil_1]

WelshWarden wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

El Neebre wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Honestly, I don't play on PC so I really shouldn't be commenting on this.. but something I have to say.

I wouldn't blame BioWare TOO much for this. I mean sure, it sucks and it's balls that PC gaming has maybe come to this, but BioWare only makes the game.. as for what EA does with it, well, they don't really have a choice in that matter. Sad but true.

Well it's not BioWare's fault, it's EA's fault - they're publishing it.

I know, some people are making it out like BioWare are to blame though.

Well when the Bioware head's say stuff like this in an interview It kinda makes it seem like mixed mesages.

[color=rgb(51, 51, 51)">In an interview with ], [/color]BioWare[color=rgb(51, 51, 51)"> ] and Dr. Greg [/color]Zeschuk says that the idea that EA tells them what to do "is not actually remotely true":

...we are EA, we're BioWare - we're both, and we still have huge autonomy in terms of what we do.

We're not not being forced to do anything or told to do anything. We make the decision. We take input.

At the end of the day, we're responsible for the quality of the content and games we release, and we're committed to try and always take feedback really seriously from our fans and be humble about how we take it - use it to make the next games better.

The Necrons from Warhammer 40K and the Borg from Star Trek come to mind after that quote

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Luvinn wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...


Speaking of which, Blizzard has gone straight up retarded, ever since WoW, they have changed their business practices and approach to maximizing profits (different philosophy, one I don't agree with)

Thats why I'm done with Blizzard as a company, and will never play their games anymore. Much the same reason why im done with Bioware now. Will I buy ME3? Maybe. But I will play it. I'll just borrow it from a friend a week after. Easy way to save 60 bucks I guess. But I will not support a company with these shoddy practices.

Ya thats one way to handle it, or play on console/rent it. There are always options for consumers.

As for Blizzard, I'm done with them, unless they magically create a copy of Warcraft 4, you know an amazing sequel to the WC3 RTS, which will likely never occur and even if they did, would be milked in much the same manner as SC2 with all the same additional software.

[Ryzaki]

Luvinn wrote...

I personally can't understand the reasoning behind forcing something upon players of whom the overwhelming majority do not want. Ok, I can understand making digital distribution origin exclusive. But why, in the name of buddha, do physical copies need to have the crap on it too? DRM? Disc check not good enough anymore? How about DA2's DRM? I'd love to have been in the room where they thought this was a good idea.

Aye.

If I can have DA2's DRM with the retail physical box version I'm happy.

[Notanything]

There goes my purchase, what a shame..

Haha "Steam has adopted a set of restrictive terms of service which limit how developers interact with customers to deliver patches and other downloadable content." Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Especially from a product delivered by EA nonetheless.

[Mister Mida]

Relix28 wrote...

pc.ign.com/articles/121/1216562p1.html

This was rather fast. IGN just published the article on the subject. However, I think the first sentance in the last paragraph is slightly misleading.

"Priestly confirmed that players will be able to opt out of data collection, and refuted a question about Origin being spyware."

As I understand it, players will have the chance to opt-out from the in-game data collection (just like in ME2), like data on what classes, powers and weapons are most/least used by gamers and other statistics like that. AND NOT the potential data harvesting from your computer, on wich there is still no guaratee from EA that they will not be doing so in the future.


I'm glad that sites are reporting on this, but I really wish people would check the facts before publishing articles like this.

Well, it's IGN. What do you expect?

[Relix28]

I know it's IGN, but still.....one can hope right?

Modifié par Relix28, 14 janvier 2012 - 09:03 .

[Incognito JC]

Relix28 wrote...

I know it's IGN, but still.....one can hope right?

Try sending them a mail for correction?

Honestly, it's IGN, so I'm not too bothered..

[UserForFun]

I assume, due to Origins, an already used-copy will be invalid? Aka, you won't be able to play?

[Luvinn]

Id also like a little clarification on why Priestly blatantly tries to mislead people on his FAQ list too. Please, if you haven't, read number 5 on the OP and see how it's a weasel of an answer disguised as a top concern that many have. A once great company reduced to practices such as that. Sad indeed.

Modifié par Luvinn, 14 janvier 2012 - 09:06 .

[Incognito JC]

UserForFun wrote...

I assume, due to Origins, an already used-copy will be invalid? Aka, you won't be able to play?

Definitely correct. Unless you get the Origin account along with the game. Most console games are too, nowadays. Online pass and all. Edit: To play online on consoles, that is.

Modifié par Incognito JC, 14 janvier 2012 - 09:06 .

[Ryzaki]

UserForFun wrote...

I assume, due to Origins, an already used-copy will be invalid? Aka, you won't be able to play?

Edit: Oh crap.

Yikes.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 janvier 2012 - 09:06 .

[elitecom]

I remember when ME1 was going to be released for PC, and EA came forward with the type of DRM it would use. You could only instal the game a limited number of times and you had to authenticate the game within a time period of five days or else you'd be locked out and would have to contact EA support for help.

The idea was so universally disliked that EA ended up dropping it, you still only had those 5 instals but an instal only counts the first time you instal the game on your computer or you change the hardware of the computer. Bioware then went with the regular DVD check for ME2. 

Seems like EA is going much stauncher with Origin though, and not that willing to back down despite all the criticism. It's just too unforunate, not just that they haven't learnt a thing from ME1, but that they're still so persistent with Origin.  

[Relix28]

Incognito JC wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

I know it's IGN, but still.....one can hope right?

Try sending them a mail for correction?

Honestly, it's IGN, so I'm not too bothered..

Maybe I will. The more people hear about this (with correct facts) the better. 

[walker---boh]

Way to sell out bioware origin is terrible steam is 10 times better and you know it. Cmon guys we all know this is just so ea can have titles to take on steam. Well I loved mass effect bt I may not buy it. Way to go ea.

[Gunderic]

EAware has spoken again. You know, I think I'd rather support Steam over Origin. At least Valve's employees actually play video games.

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Relix28 wrote...

pc.ign.com/articles/121/1216562p1.html

This was rather fast. IGN just published the article on the subject. However, I think the first sentance in the last paragraph is slightly misleading.

"Priestly confirmed that players will be able to opt out of data collection, and refuted a question about Origin being spyware."

As I understand it, players will have the chance to opt-out from the in-game data collection (just like in ME2), like data on what classes, powers and weapons are most/least used by gamers and other statistics like that. AND NOT the potential data harvesting from your computer, on wich there is still no guaratee from EA that they will not be doing so in the future.


I'm glad that sites are reporting on this, but I really wish people would check the facts before publishing articles like this.

Read the comments on the IGN page...I got some good lolz, not the same caliber of sophisticated complaining but I sympathsize.

[SynheKatze]

What a huge letdown, can't say I didn't expect this, tho.

Guess now I can focus on finding ways to bypass Origin or render it useless. Oh well =/

[Weskerr]

Relix28 wrote...

I know it's IGN, but still.....one can hope right?

No, they misread it. If you can read the English language, you'll see that it plainly states that sending "ME3 data" to them is optional. It says nothing about opting out of other data collection.

[Ryzaki]

Well I don't think the customer is always right.

But "forcing services your customer has no desire in that don't actually improve his/her experience." I'm pretty sure isn't a good business practice.

[Max Knight]

Good god seriusly you people who are pradon the expresion ****ing about origin i have origin on my PC an have no problem with it...well there is this paypal thingy but that is unrelated..... so how about you sisies calm the **** DOWN there are much MUCH worse way of DRM, lets take Two Worlds 1 and 2 for example an those of you that are saing..o origin asdasd wont buy ME3 i wonde how many of you wil actualy not buy it.

[Weskerr]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Weskerr wrote...

It is depressing to know that 4.5 times more games were pirated than bought (and that ratio is likely even greater), but that's the way it's always going to be. As long as there are video games, people will try to pirate them. It's wrong and dispicable, but DRMs are not the way to fix the problem (if it's even possible to fix it). "The customer is always right" is a timeless and clever business adage. Any business that fails to adhere to it will never maximize their profits.

Careful, the last time I said that I was immediately disagreed with by the majority of the thread.

Not only that, but a dev came out of lurk mode to argue with me.

Seriously?

[Incognito JC]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Careful, the last time I said that I was immediately disagreed with by the majority of the thread.

Not only that, but a dev came out of lurk mode to argue with me.

Quite sure not many will disagree with you in here on that regard.