Incognito JC wrote...
For those posters that aren't bothered to read through the thread or use their higher cognitive process before posting, many are against Origin, and NOT Steam, because Steam asks for permission to ransack your PC for data. Origin does it ANYWAY without asking. If you are even bothered to read through the thread, you would learn that people have done tests sometime ago and learnt that Origin goes through your private files on your PC, outside of the Origin program folder, via a process monitoring program.
Used to, months ago it does not now. I gave evidence of this which is contrary to that many months old beta version of Origin tested. The newer version does not. You also do give persmission via the accepting terms when installing both game and client which then also as stated on first page has an opt out option. how far that opt out goes is open to interpretation right now because the first page did not word it the best way could to explain it.
For the more recent posts that Origin only scans its own folders, who is to say it won't scan others. It has been proven to do so before. And no, don't ask for image links. It has been posted on this thread, and you would have seen it if you bothered reading through.
I have already answered that when someone made the comparrison between Valves rules on privacy and EAs version of privacy terms. The difference is same between "what you think they might do" and "what they actually do". This line of thought borders fear mongering.
For those people who says, "you're a pirate so you don't want Origin scanning your files lool". What a load of bull. We care about what it scans because we might have important information on our PC. It is no secret that nowadays no major corporations can prevent their database from being hacked. With your logic, why don't you leave your house doors open, you have nothing to hide right? God forbid that you may have sensitive and/or banking information in your house. Just let strangers wander in anytime to take what they want. Because, hey, you have nothing to hide.
A hacker can target you just like those corporations. The difference is minimal unless you have two machines one online one no internet at all which someone already suggested else your never going to be secure and your privacy will always without fail be at risk if your computer is connected to the internet at all even with a million firewalls. Most of this is going again by the assumption that they might start trying to look at such things as bank statements which as already said is not what they are doing and not what they are going to do and also on their EULA right now says only scans the game and client folders and maybe system specifications is listed there as might look at. Most of the people raging are going on out of date EUALs and out of date client and out of date PR phrases where all have since pretty much been changed and contradict the earliest aspects people originally were upset about the most.
As for those ignorant enough to say we can opt out of sharing data on Origin; no we can't. Mr. Priestly's carefully worded post said that we can only opt out of ME3 data sharing, which, to be honest, I do not have a single issue with. Feel free to take my ME3 statistics, how I play the game and whatnot. Origin on the other hand, mines for data that are, bluntly put, none of their damn business.
On this you may be semi-right dependent on if he said what he mean't or if he did not explain it well. But in the end I have shown what it looks at and that is relating to the game not your bank statements and personal information. Could the EULA be worded better, maybe but the latest EULA I read actually stated they only look at game folders and files and system specs and they did not say will be looking at your bank statements or your personal information. The EULA which did have that bad wording was old and has been changed long ago. Just like the evidence of the early version of the client is not what the client does now and new evidence showed this.
Now if you don't like debating with people or do not like to debate with people of opposing views then your not doing anything more than raging and raging on its own is not that constructive. The alternative is maybe you only wish to talk to those who hold the very same view as you in which case stop replying to me when I post something you do not agree with.
The not on steam aspect I can understand frustration for those.People have a preference for where they buy their games this is fully reasonable and slight surprise it is not on there but I believe it will in time be added to steam after initial release on origin so that initial increase in sales go direct without dilution of profit but then opening up to other sources to then maximise that profit. They don't have to share profit if host themselves on own client hence initial hosting then opening out to others will build on it. They do not lose money by not hosting it on steam (if) at some point it is released on steam as well. They do lose money if they never let steam host it but thats unlikely.
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