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#1976
kirvingtwo

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photographerleia wrote...

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I'm really surprised that the whole internet isn't in rage. Meaning this isn't on other websites. Probably safe, the internet would EXPLODE.


Give it time. There's likely a reason they only announced this on a Friday evening/afternoon, hoping it wouldn't get big exposure  due to the weekend.


I even expected facebook and twitter to have a response. We all know how those unregulated people are.

I've already read it on gamebanshee.  I passed the news on, as soon as I found out, through facebook and many of those friends have passed it on since.  Just give it time.


It's also reported on Kotaku, rockpapershotgun, gamespot, gamespy, ign, overclock, rpgwatch....to name a few and that's just on the first page of a google search.

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Lance Freeman

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Shame. I was so looking forward to seeing how this all turned out. Not a penny to a company who doesn't want my money.

#1978
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Preorder and retailer specific DLC and now this.

That's me out then. I'll just have to watch the highlights off YouTube post-release.

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Metallisika wrote...

Severyx wrote...

The funny thing is that 80% of the people complaining about Origin are going to buy ME3 anyways, whether they want to let the public know or not.


Hahaha, no. They'll just pirate it.


No, that's just the other 20% ;)

#1980
Incognito JC

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

Which isn't completley wrong however there is the difference between people who say "it might do x or y" and those who say it "will do x or y". But in the end the new EULA states what it will look at and that is game files and folders and system specs, that is what it might do unless they change the EULA again. The old EULA you were right in that is did not specify with enough clarity and opened up can of worms of just how much would look at being dubious. The "will do x or y" is fear mongering. The "might do x or y" is cautious imho.


Seriously, quality over quantity. One sentence is usually enough to get your point across. I used "will do" because they "did do". Get the difference?

You said you have a PS3, how much information did you put into that and your PSN account including purchses of products.

None. I don't need to.

Facebook, Bioware/BSN site sign up information, Kotaku? Steam? Local government? Any other forums or gaming sites or blogs?


I don't put my personal information on those either. Empty point.

Who do you use for email.. Hotmail? All these places already have your information and all at some point or another has been hacked by someone. In the end the ultimate version of privacy will be to not connect to the internet at all.

Again, none of my private information in there. Only things my email have, is, the email itself, and a password for the email.

Stop arguing for the sake of argument, seriously. This is totally off topic. I respond to you because you provoke me to, simple as that.

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Forgive me, but I don't comprehend why
Origin is needed for activating a physical retail version ME3 when just
using BSN to register the game worked well in the past.


If I were to guess, EA enforced it so that they can promote the use of Origin. By promote I mean force.

Modifié par Incognito JC, 14 janvier 2012 - 10:50 .


#1981
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Forgive me, but I don't comprehend why Origin is needed for activating a physical retail version ME3 when just using BSN to register the game worked well in the past.

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Lance Freeman wrote...

Shame. I was so looking forward to seeing how this all turned out. Not a penny to a company who doesn't want my money.

:huh:

#1983
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KnifeForkAndSpoon wrote...

Preorder and retailer specific DLC and now this.

That's me out then. I'll just have to watch the highlights off YouTube post-release.


To be fair, everyone does pre-order bonuses, even CDPR. The difference being CDPR eventually gave everyone everything. But I can't fault Bioware for pre-order shenanigans when everyone else is doing it too.

I still say they got it right with ME2 and DA:O, where your new copy bought a significant amount of free content ( Shale and Zaeed) But alas, that wasn't enough for the bean counters at EA.

Modifié par slimgrin, 14 janvier 2012 - 10:57 .


#1984
Sgt Stryker

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Emoking wrote...

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pc.ign.com/articles/121/1216562p1.html

This was rather fast. IGN just published the article on the subject. However, I think the first sentance in the last paragraph is slightly misleading.

"Priestly confirmed that players will be able to opt out of data collection, and refuted a question about Origin being spyware."

Why wouldn't it be misleading? IGN is a gaming journalism site, is it not?


Not very good journalism. Though, if you want my opnion, there's very little "good" gaming journalism out there, full stop.

Well then you and I are in agreement. Generally speaking, most video game journalism is synonymous with bad journalism.

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Cancelling pre-order.

If EA and Bioware thought pirating was a problem before...just wait.

#1986
wolfsite

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Ashertron wrote...

Cancelling pre-order.

If EA and Bioware thought pirating was a problem before...just wait.


Okay make the problem worse for the rest of us.  Thanks a lot

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[quote]Severyx wrote...

The funny thing is that 80% of the people complaining about Origin are going to buy ME3 anyways, whether they want to let the public know or not.[/quote]
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I don't get where this idea comes from that people will whinge about something and then buy a product anyway.  A lot of people complained about DA2 before it was released and, surprise,  a lot of people didn't buy DA2.(myself included)

Modifié par kirvingtwo, 14 janvier 2012 - 10:52 .


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Aurora313 wrote...

Forgive me, but I don't comprehend why Origin is needed for activating a physical retail version ME3 when just using BSN to register the game worked well in the past.


This.

#1989
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Severyx wrote...

The funny thing is that 80% of the people complaining about Origin are going to buy ME3 anyways, whether they want to let the public know or not.


Screenshots or it didn't happen.  :P


Seriously having your own point of view or having a diffrent exprience with Origin is fine.  Vocing it is also fine.
Claiming that you know how "80%" of those who don't share your opinnion will act without providing any kind of hard evidence (which can't yet exisit since we're talking about a game that hasn't been released yet) is just being presumptive.  Don't be disrespectful, allow everyone to say their piece.

#1990
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aridor1570 wrote...

The news hit Kotaku, just so you know.


And most of the commenters are not that upset over it with a few exceptions who are more than likely people from BSN posting there. Generally that is the way here though, BSN is more verbal about Bioware/EA. As said to another person who was hoping this would cause some mega storm on Bioware or EA, in this case it won't happen. Disgruntled maybe, a lot of threats on BSN as normal but to most of the rest of the web using Origin is not as big a problem as it is here. Bioware likes to list it's fanbase as 'passionate' but in reality it borderlines 'hysteria'. BSN does not have that great a reputation due to the level of over-reaction to so many things that goes on here whether femshep or origin even liara figurines.

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On that note...I wonder if the demo will require origin?

I don't expect BW to really care about any forum posters on this subject (unlike say Bethany's chest or Ash's armor). So I'm not expecting the need for origin to change.

Would be nice if it did though.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 janvier 2012 - 10:55 .


#1992
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This is a deal breaker for me. I WILL NOT install origin on my system no matter what. I guess I will be skipping ME3 just like I did BF3. If I cannot buy a game on Steam I will not buy it at all. And I gotta say, the excuse about Steam and DLC is ridiculous. If I buy the game on Steam, I want to buy the DLC from Steam as well. Why would I want to have purchase the DLC elsewhere? This is all about EA forcing their garbage software on us and their Draconian business practices. I currently own about 350 games on Steam, and want all my games on Steam. I refuse to have another service installed on my machine. Especially one from such and underhanded company as EA. I make many PC game purchases (all from Steam of course) mostly for new games at the time of release or even pre-orders, and EA has lost all future business from me because of trying to force origin on us. I knoiw I am only one person, but MANY others feel the same way and will do the same. It really sucks because I love Bioware games, but if you are going to partner with such an evil company as EA, I guess I am done with you as well. It's too bad really, I was looking forward to ME3

#1993
Incognito JC

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Ryzaki wrote...

On that note...I wonder if the demo will require origin?


Supposedly not. At least, KoA:R's cross promotion FAQ said so. Not sure if it was just for KoA's demo or for both.

Dragoonlordz wrote...

As said to
another person who was hoping this would cause some mega storm on
Bioware or EA, in this case it won't happen. Disgruntled maybe, a lot of
threats on BSN as normal but to most of the rest of the web using
Origin is not as big a problem as it is here.


And you know because?

Stop assuming these kind of statistics and expect everything you say to be right. Before you hit reply, just stop and ponder over the phrase; silence is golden.

Modifié par Incognito JC, 14 janvier 2012 - 10:58 .


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ShaneP wrote...
I have had no problems with Origin. It hasn't crashed, ...

Origin crashs on my PC if the firewall blocks the complete traffic at the start of Origin. I only could block this Akamai traffic, but not the complete traffic without crashing Origin.

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[quote]kirvingtwo wrote...

[quote]Severyx wrote...

The
funny thing is that 80% of the people complaining about Origin are going
to buy ME3 anyways, whether they want to let the public know or
not.[/quote]
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I don't get where this idea comes from that
people will whinge about something and then buy a product anyway.  A lot
of people complained about DA2 before it was released and, surprise,  a
lot of people didn't buy DA2.(myself included)

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Edit:  It's formatting my post funny.  Anything above this line is kirvingtwo's quote

http://kotaku.com/54...ers-are-playing

DA2 was mediocre and word of mouth made sales plummet.  But this sort of thing has always popped up where people have a major complaint about a specific aspect of a game that is likely to be of otherwise high quality.  They raise their pitchforks and torches, but once the dust settles they're all playing the game.

Modifié par sackyhack, 14 janvier 2012 - 10:59 .


#1996
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I didn't think anything could keep me from buying Mass Effect 3. I was wrong. Maybe I'll get it for PS3 when it hits the bargain bin.

Origin is a ****ty program that I refuse to download again. I have spent countless hours dicking around with that software just because I made the fatal mistake of trying to log-in using the wrong email address.

Add to that the bull**** I went through trying to get the Ultimate Edition of Drago Age to work right? Screw it.

#1997
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I recently had to use Origin when playing Need for Speed The Run on pc and I have to say it was the most un-user friendly experience I had. Everytime I wanted to play the game I had to disconnect my internet connection, otherwise it just got stuck on the title screen trying to connect to autolog. The first 2 Mass Effect games didn't use Origin, so why use it now. Surely having the unique key code that you'll get with the game should be security enough of proof of purchase.

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RoseLegion wrote...

Severyx wrote...

The funny thing is that 80% of the people complaining about Origin are going to buy ME3 anyways, whether they want to let the public know or not.


Screenshots or it didn't happen.  :P


Seriously having your own point of view or having a diffrent exprience with Origin is fine.  Vocing it is also fine.
Claiming that you know how "80%" of those who don't share your opinnion will act without providing any kind of hard evidence (which can't yet exisit since we're talking about a game that hasn't been released yet) is just being presumptive.  Don't be disrespectful, allow everyone to say their piece.


Well, the fact that you assume I'm saying this to shoot people down is presumptive in and of itself. I said that to state my opinion (with a bit of exaggeration for flavor) that plenty of people will probably still get the game anyways, because I hope that people will realize BioWare's hard work on ME3 shouldn't go wasted because of this (albeit irritating) software scandal.

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Incognito JC wrote...

And you know because?

Stop assuming these kind of statistics and expect everything you say to be right. Before you hit reply, just stop and ponder over the phrase; silence is golden.


Time will prove me right. If you so offended by my views  being different to your own then ignore me and move along aka stop replying to everything I say.

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Well, it seems this will be the last Bioware Game I pay for after all. Tis a sad day indeed.